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‘Ridiculous’: How a Firefighter Ended Up in Handcuffs While Helping Victims.....
blaze ^ | Jason Howerton

Posted on 02/05/2014 4:35:20 PM PST by Morgana

FULL TITLE: ‘Ridiculous’: How a Firefighter Ended Up in Handcuffs While Helping Victims at Scene of Serious Car Accident

While responding to a Tuesday night rollover accident in Chula Vista, Calif., a police officer and firefighter got into a dispute over where the fire engine should park. The verbal altercation ended with the uniformed firefighter in handcuffs.

The California Highway Patrol officer reportedly demanded the firefighter move the fire engine off the center divide. He refused and continued to treat the crash victims at the scene.

KFMB-TV captured the argument and ensuing arrest on video:

(Excerpt) Read more at theblaze.com ...


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; firefighter

1 posted on 02/05/2014 4:35:20 PM PST by Morgana
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To: Morgana

Thankfully, there wasn’t a dalmation for the cop to shoot.


2 posted on 02/05/2014 4:37:23 PM PST by Owl558 (Those who remember George Santayana are doomed to repeat him)
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To: Morgana

They must no longer require a psych exam for cops.


3 posted on 02/05/2014 4:38:11 PM PST by defconw (Well now what?)
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To: Morgana

That CHP officer is emblematic fo the mental state of LEO’s today.

Instant, unconditional, compliance.

I will never, willingly, have anything to do with them.


4 posted on 02/05/2014 4:41:27 PM PST by x1stcav ("The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.")
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To: Morgana

Do you know what all cops and firefighters have in common? They both took the firefighter exam!

Sounds like somebody has some issues!


5 posted on 02/05/2014 4:41:48 PM PST by VikingMom (I may not know what the future holds but I know who holds the future!)
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To: Morgana

Having sat through California freeway jams that didn’t even involve an accident, I’m kinds sympathetic with the officer who wanted the guy to move the darn truck.


6 posted on 02/05/2014 4:42:09 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Morgana

His lawyer (The Fireman’s) is going to be a rich man, and the community that hired and trained the patrolman a lot poorer.


7 posted on 02/05/2014 4:43:27 PM PST by billhilly (Has Pelosi read it yet?)
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To: billhilly

That would be the State of California as he is a California Highway Patrolman. It’s okay, though. The state has tons of money to throw around.


8 posted on 02/05/2014 4:45:57 PM PST by liege (America 180)
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To: Morgana

i wish government would feel how cops treat regular people more often.

don’t let cop idiocy just be limited to us non-officer, civillian serfs.

it’s the only way we can get real change.


9 posted on 02/05/2014 4:48:02 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Morgana
You're either SWAT or you're not.
10 posted on 02/05/2014 4:48:06 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The only way women can "have it all" is if men aren't allowed to have anything.)
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To: billhilly

Yeah, unless it emerges that the firefighter took a swing at the cop, I Think the firefighter may soon have some extra money.


11 posted on 02/05/2014 4:52:35 PM PST by pogo101
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To: Owl558

I was thinking along those same lines.. but
Seriously.. Can his ego have been more bloated? Sickening new crop of cops out there.. Nothing like it used to be.


12 posted on 02/05/2014 4:53:27 PM PST by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("Give me Liberty or I'll stand up and get it for myself!")
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To: pogo101
In my view a swing would have been appropriate if the cop was interfering with treatment of an injured citizen, as opposed to the proper parking of the engine. An old fashioned ass kicking would be called for.
13 posted on 02/05/2014 4:58:56 PM PST by billhilly (Has Pelosi read it yet?)
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To: Morgana

Not surprised that the firefighter was set free.Probably upon orders from a superior of the hotshot CHP officer.


14 posted on 02/05/2014 4:59:15 PM PST by luvbach1 (We are finished)
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To: Morgana

I would imagine the truck was parked behind the accident scene to prevent a driver from hitting the emergency responders, hence the refusal to move it. Damaged fire truck better than a dead fire fighter.

Personally, I would have grabbed the jaws and removed him from the cruiser. Let the cop explanation what his car is now scrap.


15 posted on 02/05/2014 4:59:54 PM PST by matt04
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To: billhilly
...the community that hired and trained the patrolman a lot poorer.

That would be the state of California. Can it get any poorer?

16 posted on 02/05/2014 5:00:45 PM PST by luvbach1 (We are finished)
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To: luvbach1

What are we doing here when we could be adoring Bill O’Reilly for the fourth day in a row. It is much more exciting to anticipate when his back patting will result in a broken arm.


17 posted on 02/05/2014 5:08:29 PM PST by billhilly (Has Pelosi read it yet?)
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To: luvbach1

What are we doing here when we could be adoring Bill O’Reilly for the fourth day in a row. It is much more exciting to anticipate when his back patting will result in a broken arm.


18 posted on 02/05/2014 5:09:03 PM PST by billhilly (Has Pelosi read it yet?)
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To: luvbach1

What are we doing here when we could be adoring Bill O’Reilly for the fourth day in a row. It is much more exciting to anticipate when his back patting will result in a broken arm.


19 posted on 02/05/2014 5:10:44 PM PST by billhilly (Has Pelosi read it yet?)
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To: Morgana

I can’t wait to see the jackboots start arresting each
other.


20 posted on 02/05/2014 5:17:56 PM PST by Slambat
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To: Morgana

When two agencies such as these officially respond to an emergency. The Fire Chief is always #1 man in control of ALL assets on the scene. All the cops know this as well as all the firemen. Until the Fire Chief relinquishes control, the cops are just there to help out as directed.


21 posted on 02/05/2014 5:24:53 PM PST by Delta 21 (If you like your freedom, you can keep your freedom. Period.)
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To: x1stcav

“Instant, unconditional, compliance.”

Yep, and if the Fireman instantly complied and the victim
died because of it the cop would have lied like an Obama
about it. The fuzz would have been laughing about it in
the station parking lot where they hang out playing
quick draw gun fighter.


22 posted on 02/05/2014 5:26:55 PM PST by Slambat
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To: pogo101
Yeah, unless it emerges that the firefighter took a swing at the cop,

Doubt that happened. Generally speaking, Firemen are drawn from a better class of human being than cops are.

23 posted on 02/05/2014 5:27:42 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Morgana

Remember when Seabees help save family in dramatic rescue on Highway 101?

No one complained that their equipment was blocking that road....wonder what happened in the passing of 2 years? No *unions* noses got out of joint.

24 posted on 02/05/2014 5:38:37 PM PST by Daffynition ("If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right." ~ Henry Ford)
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To: Morgana

If the pigs keep acting this way, it won’t be long until they start getting offed.


25 posted on 02/05/2014 5:42:07 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Morgana

Did they ever figure out who had the bigger penis?


26 posted on 02/05/2014 5:53:00 PM PST by Rodamala
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To: matt04
Iwould imagine the truck was parked behind the accident scene to prevent a driver from hitting the emergency responders, hence the refusal to move it. Damaged fire truck better than a dead fire fighter.

That's what I thought.....it looked like it was helping to divert traffic around the accident site.
27 posted on 02/05/2014 6:11:14 PM PST by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: Morgana

Damned the backed up traffic. If it was one of my own laying in the street, I’d park in the middle of the freeway too. They can yell and curse me all they want...I ain’t moving until the injured are secure.


28 posted on 02/05/2014 6:17:20 PM PST by Dallas59 (Obama: The first "White Black" President.)
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To: Morgana

I’m guessing steroid abuse on the part of the cop.


29 posted on 02/05/2014 6:31:06 PM PST by Flick Lives (Got a problem with the government? Have a complaint. Get a free IRS audit!)
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To: Morgana

I can’t tell if the CHP guy is an Obama son or a non-White Hispanic. Either way he’s a real jerk. Hope he never needs EMT services. He might be waiting a while.


30 posted on 02/05/2014 6:32:20 PM PST by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: Delta 21

Who was the First Responder?


31 posted on 02/05/2014 6:37:04 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: pogo101

Not to mention the crash victim if they can prove the cop impacted the level of care they would have otherwise received.


32 posted on 02/05/2014 6:37:55 PM PST by Portcall24
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To: Morgana

This is madness.


33 posted on 02/05/2014 6:43:20 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: colorado tanker

Firefighters have always operated within a military style command structure. After 9/11 incident command was further codified. The cop should have at least been through the basic FEMA National Incident Management System classes (NIMS. Unless the cop was the incident commander, which he wasn’t, he was wrong.


34 posted on 02/05/2014 6:47:02 PM PST by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: meatloaf

Now the chip guy will sue for the sht he eats....give it 6 mo.


35 posted on 02/05/2014 7:03:04 PM PST by Therapsid
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To: Morgana

in 0bamanation, absolute obedience to police is required.

the fireman is just lucky he didn’t get shot

if that was a relative of mine and they died due to this cop’s behavior, he and his family would have to go into hiding


36 posted on 02/05/2014 7:09:33 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Cvengr

..from http://www.statter911.com/2010/02/23/battalion-chief-handcuffed-after-refusing-to-move-fire-engine-used-to-shield-first-responders-on-california-freeway-chp-calls-incident-regrettable-and-embarrasing/

The crash occurred on the center divide, there were 2 vehicles involved, 6 patients, 1 known minor injury. The squad crew pulled past the fire engine, then it blocks the lane to provide a safe working area, (per FD SOP). Before we go further, it should be noted that the MFD normally have-and are quite proud of-the excellent relationship they enjoy daily with the CHP and area law enforcement officers. This is an isolated and rare incident.

At this point the recently assigned (very new to that area) CHP officer tells the Battalion Chief that the apparatus cannot block the lane because it will cause too much traffic backup, and to move the rig. The Battalion Chief tells him no, that he needs his crew protected until they take up from the run. About one minute from the time the BC goes on scene, the BC is now on the radio asking for a CHP supervisor to be sent to the scene. Next thing the crew saw was the CHP officer handcuffing/arresting the Battalion Chief.

At this point, the Firefighters had not even made patient contact yet. The CHP officer then goes to the Fire Captain and tells him the same thing, move the engine or “I am going to arrest you and the (Fire Engineer) as well”. Then the CHP Officer called for a heavy tow truck to tow the fire apparatus off the freeway.


Everything else I can find on it just has everyone apologizing all over each other.

Another story says that CHP has jurisdiction , and Im sure thats the case when law enforcement is the issue, but completely irrelevent with 1st responders rendering aid.

I sure hope no CHP’s houses catch fire in Chula Vista.


37 posted on 02/05/2014 7:24:36 PM PST by Delta 21 (If you like your freedom, you can keep your freedom. Period.)
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To: Morgana

More fodder-http://www.firerescue1.com/firefighter-safety/articles/350877-Fire-captain-arrested-for-apparatus-placement-awarded-17-500-in-Mo/


HAZELWOOD, Mo. — Federal court jurors awarded $17,500 on Wednesday to a fire captain arrested by a Hazelwood police officer in a dispute over where a firetruck was parked during a 2003 car crash rescue.
Juror Betsy Vennemann said after the verdict, “We wanted to make a statement that this kind of behavior will not be tolerated.”

Capt. David Wilson won $7,500 in compensatory damages and $10,000 in punitive damages.

Jurors, including a nun, said they went easy on the defendant, Officer Todd Greeves, because he has a family and they weren’t sure who would pay the bill.

Wilson testified that the Robertson Fire Protection District truck was parked in a way to protect rescuers working to free a victim from wreckage along Interstate 270 at McDonnell Boulevard.

Greeves ordered that the truck be moved to accommodate passing traffic and arrested Wilson for ignoring him.



38 posted on 02/05/2014 7:28:55 PM PST by Delta 21 (If you like your freedom, you can keep your freedom. Period.)
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To: Delta 21

“I sure hope no CHP’s houses catch fire in Chula Vista.”

That was my first thought when I read the title of this article. What a dumb SOB that egomaniac cop is.


39 posted on 02/05/2014 7:30:46 PM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: DivineMomentsOfTruth

“Sickening new crop of cops out there.. Nothing like it used to be.”

You said it. You never used to have second thoughts pointing to an officer and telling your kids, “That is who you go to if you’re lost or in trouble.”

I tried telling my kids that at a recent community event where the CHP had a booth and the cop (another kid really) acted like a complete ass. How disappointing.


40 posted on 02/06/2014 10:50:29 AM PST by Owl558 (Those who remember George Santayana are doomed to repeat him)
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