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Freep a poll: Should VW Chattanooga unionize?
TimesFreePress ^ | February 4, 2014 | Mike Pare

Posted on 02/05/2014 4:59:49 PM PST by KGeorge

Volkswagen, not the UAW, filed for a National Labor Relations Board-conducted vote at the factory in which about 1,600 hourly employees will cast secret ballots Feb. 12-14

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: poll; unions; vw

1 posted on 02/05/2014 4:59:49 PM PST by KGeorge
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To: dynachrome

ping


2 posted on 02/05/2014 5:00:21 PM PST by KGeorge (Till we're together again, Gypsy girl. May 28, 1998- June 3, 2013)
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To: KGeorge

Yes is winning.
The UAW retirees are hitting their keyboards tonight...


3 posted on 02/05/2014 5:02:03 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: KGeorge

as of now

Should VW unionize in Chattanooga?

53% Say yes

(12859 votes)

46% Say no

(11222 votes)

24081 total votes


4 posted on 02/05/2014 5:02:12 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: KGeorge

yes and then move the plant to mexico


5 posted on 02/05/2014 5:04:19 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: KGeorge

We’ve got some work to do...but I am confident. (in the short run at least)


6 posted on 02/05/2014 5:04:53 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: bigheadfred
yes and then move the plant to mexico

Eh, they're not moving the plant anywhere. VW wants them to unionize.

This probably won't hurt VW much. It may drive VW prices up a bit, but its a brand that doesn't really compete on price anyway - their customer base is people who are willing to pay a bit extra for "German engineering," but are not quite in the price range of the German luxury makers.

7 posted on 02/05/2014 5:07:33 PM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: KGeorge

If they do, another car make I will not touch. The owners of the company might be OK, but I will not line the pockets of unions.


8 posted on 02/05/2014 5:07:35 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: bigheadfred
yes and then move the plant to mexico

Volkswagon is pushing for the union to come in. I doubt they'll pull up stumps and head for Mexico if they win.

9 posted on 02/05/2014 5:11:33 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: bigheadfred

“yes and then move the plant to mexico”

VW wants the union, not the workers. A strange situation


10 posted on 02/05/2014 5:13:38 PM PST by Figment
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To: DoodleDawg

“Volkswagon is pushing for the union to come in. I doubt they’ll pull up stumps and head for Mexico if they win.”

VW has already laid out quite a bit of infrastructure in the state as far as suppliers and such. You’re right, they aren’t going anywhere. The move may be a good pre-emptive strategy on the companies part


11 posted on 02/05/2014 5:18:48 PM PST by Figment
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To: KGeorge

Not that I was planning to buy a VW anyway, but if I’m going to buy a foreign car, it won’t be one made by the UAW.


12 posted on 02/05/2014 5:19:02 PM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: Figment
VW has already laid out quite a bit of infrastructure in the state as far as suppliers and such. You’re right, they aren’t going anywhere. The move may be a good pre-emptive strategy on the companies part.

Unions are respected by management in Germany. I think VW is unsure on how to deal with workers at a manufacturing facility without working through a union.

13 posted on 02/05/2014 5:22:46 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg; Conscience of a Conservative; Figment

im not giving them a choice ;-))


14 posted on 02/05/2014 5:23:29 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; 45semi; A knight without armor; Alexander Rubin; all the best; AmericaUnite; ...
Thanks to KGeorge for the ping!

FREEP THIS POLL ***PING!*** FRmail me if you want to be added or removed from the Fearless Poll-Freeping Freepers Ping list. (multiple votes using multiple internetz devices are allowed!) And be sure to ping me to any polls that need Freepin', if I miss them. (looks like a medium volume list) (gordongekko909, founder of the pinglist, stays on the list until his ghost signs up for the list)

15 posted on 02/05/2014 5:35:13 PM PST by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Yup, big companies often prefer to deal with the union over the individual. The last union shop I worked in invited the AFL-CIO in to help organize an independent union as a means of keeping the UAW out.


16 posted on 02/05/2014 5:36:25 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SandRat

I DO NOT BELIEVE there are nearly that many people still think unions are a good idea. This is a bogus vote! Union members hitting hard.


17 posted on 02/05/2014 5:39:59 PM PST by uncitizen (Impeach the Communist Already!)
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To: nascarnation

LOL, it only matters how the actual workers involve vote. Isn’t an online poll kind of ......... well, meaningless?


18 posted on 02/05/2014 5:40:00 PM PST by WHBates
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To: KGeorge

VW you are dead to me.


19 posted on 02/05/2014 5:43:50 PM PST by wetgundog (" Extremism in the Defense of Liberty is no Vice")
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To: KGeorge

Poll has been anti-FReeped!


20 posted on 02/05/2014 5:51:04 PM PST by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: uncitizen

Yup. 52% (YES) to 47% (NO)

BS.


21 posted on 02/05/2014 5:53:13 PM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: WHBates

Totally agree.

The union desperately wanted this “election” to be via “card check” which is totally open to intimidation.

VW tried the UAW route in their first USA plant in Pennsylvania in the late 70s, it was out of business within 10 years.


22 posted on 02/05/2014 6:01:42 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: KGeorge
VW has absolutely NO idea what they are getting themselves into... this is NOT Deutchland
23 posted on 02/05/2014 6:06:45 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Chode

The joke is they tried this in 78 in Pennsylvania and it blew chunks.
Must be nobody in the Fatherland exec group old enough to remember?


24 posted on 02/05/2014 6:08:16 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: nascarnation

Yeah, but those rubes didn’t know they could get endless bailouts from American taxpayers!


25 posted on 02/05/2014 6:10:39 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: nascarnation
100%... i guess their Corporate Memory is getting Alzheimer's
26 posted on 02/05/2014 6:11:44 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: KGeorge
I have stopped buying union made cars. That means I has also stopped buying American cars. For over 30 years I have owned American made cars, well sort of, each passing year less and less of the car is actually made in America. After the unions going into full support mode for Obama, and the bail out of Government Motors, I will screw unions till the day I die. I purchased my first foreign made car last year, and I got another one last month.

While I want America to succeed, I do not want to see short term socialist success, because that leads to long term tyranny. I value my freedom and liberty over the success of my country, especially of if that short term success benefits a lazy ass union scum that lacks the testicular fortitude to be American and stand on his on feet and make his own way in life. He is just a slave of another kind living a pathetic existence because he lacks the resolve to be a man, an American man.

Hence, I voted no in the poll, but more importantly I have voted twice in the last year with my hard earned money.

27 posted on 02/05/2014 6:30:41 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (We need to fundamentally transform RATs lives for their lies.)
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To: KGeorge

52% Say yes (12875 votes)

47% Say no (11674 votes)

24549 total votes


28 posted on 02/05/2014 6:33:22 PM PST by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416,Feisty Old Vet !!)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty
Not that I was planning to buy a VW anyway, but if I’m going to buy a foreign car, it won’t be one made by the UAW with management connivance.
29 posted on 02/05/2014 6:37:09 PM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

I’d bet this move is because it lets the company choose which union. Wouldn’t you rather have to deal with the UAW than SEIU (if you had to deal with a union...but it IS ironic that all these foreign car makers chose to build in the South, yet are facing the same ole the US mfgrs had in Detroit)


30 posted on 02/05/2014 7:07:37 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: nascarnation; SandRat; bigheadfred; gorush; DoorGunner; TwelveOfTwenty; dynachrome; wetgundog; ...

nascarnation- I swiped this one from the DUmmies, so BIIIG union push.

SandRat- thank you for the update

to bigheadfred- yeees? Noooo!

gorush- I think so, too. It was skewed before I saw it. I haven’t been back to see what to do next (if ya know what I mean)

doorgunner- don’t blame you. Jeeper here, so mine is made in Mexico anyway. (Hopefully will last me the rest of my life)

Twelve- same here. If I ever own another foreign car, it will probably be an oldie European.

Thank you, dynachrome!

wetgundog- Keep the South union free!

Thanks, Bushbacker!

Chode- I dunno. Are Germans pro-union?

ConservativeinPA- I hear ya. And suddenly, this whole push for illegals makes sense.

EXCH54FE- Thank you for the update! We’re gaining on them. I have to let the pups out & then get the tools out ;-) I guess.


31 posted on 02/05/2014 7:58:36 PM PST by KGeorge (Till we're together again, Gypsy girl. May 28, 1998- June 3, 2013)
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To: KGeorge
yes, but, but the union mentality there is NOT what it is here...
32 posted on 02/05/2014 8:00:43 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Chode

Boy are they in for a surprise, then, if it passes.


33 posted on 02/05/2014 8:18:15 PM PST by KGeorge (Till we're together again, Gypsy girl. May 28, 1998- June 3, 2013)
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To: KGeorge
100%...
34 posted on 02/05/2014 8:23:46 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: ConservativeInPA

I believe in buying American, but I agree with your reasons for doing otherwise.


35 posted on 02/06/2014 3:45:46 AM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

If you want good engineering, but far better reliability, and non union, go with Jap cars.


36 posted on 02/06/2014 3:49:21 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: KGeorge

I don’t have as much of a problem with private sector unions as I once did. Now public sector unions where politicians hand them goodies in exchange for votes on taxpayer dime is another issue.

My rationale on the private sector has changed over the years and these are my reasons. CEO managers (not the entrepreneurs that risked their own capital) should be “at will” employees that are fireable at any time by shareholder owners. Instead they get iron clad gold plated labor contracts that reward them for failure and make them fireproof. The guy at Yahoo was let go for incompetence and got $80 mil for 11 months..

In the building trades the unions do require that their members meet at least some proficiency levels that in the end offer a chance to keep society safer. Too many contractors hire illegals and want only bodies even if they know nothing. It may not be perfect but it is better than nothing that exists in 3rd world countries where buildings are falling down regularly.


37 posted on 02/06/2014 4:29:03 AM PST by apoliticalone
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To: KGeorge

Should VW unionize in Chattanooga?

51%
Say yes(12961 votes)

48%
Say no(11998 votes)

24959 total votes


38 posted on 02/06/2014 4:32:02 AM PST by Tigercap
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To: KGeorge

Yes 46% (13121 votes)

No 53% (15303 votes)

28424 total votes


39 posted on 02/06/2014 1:25:14 PM PST by Kaosinla (The More the Plans Fail. The More the Planners Plan.)
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To: Kaosinla

;-) There ya go. Great job, FRiends! (& I bet the locals deserve some of the credit, too)


40 posted on 02/06/2014 1:38:37 PM PST by KGeorge (Till we're together again, Gypsy girl. May 28, 1998- June 3, 2013)
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To: DoodleDawg

“Unions are respected by management in Germany. I think VW is unsure on how to deal with workers at a manufacturing facility without working through a union.”

The idea is to create a “german-style” management-labor relationship, where all have a voice at the table, throughout the manufacturing process, in partnership with the UAW.

I think they will find, like Daimler learned the hard way, that the UAW could give a damn less about the workers. They just care about the empowerment of the Union Leadership.


41 posted on 02/06/2014 9:36:45 PM PST by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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