Skip to comments.Freep a poll: Should VW Chattanooga unionize?
Posted on 02/05/2014 4:59:49 PM PST by KGeorge
Volkswagen, not the UAW, filed for a National Labor Relations Board-conducted vote at the factory in which about 1,600 hourly employees will cast secret ballots Feb. 12-14
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Yes is winning.
The UAW retirees are hitting their keyboards tonight...
as of now
Should VW unionize in Chattanooga?
53% Say yes
46% Say no
24081 total votes
yes and then move the plant to mexico
We’ve got some work to do...but I am confident. (in the short run at least)
Eh, they're not moving the plant anywhere. VW wants them to unionize.
This probably won't hurt VW much. It may drive VW prices up a bit, but its a brand that doesn't really compete on price anyway - their customer base is people who are willing to pay a bit extra for "German engineering," but are not quite in the price range of the German luxury makers.
If they do, another car make I will not touch. The owners of the company might be OK, but I will not line the pockets of unions.
Volkswagon is pushing for the union to come in. I doubt they'll pull up stumps and head for Mexico if they win.
“yes and then move the plant to mexico”
VW wants the union, not the workers. A strange situation
“Volkswagon is pushing for the union to come in. I doubt they’ll pull up stumps and head for Mexico if they win.”
VW has already laid out quite a bit of infrastructure in the state as far as suppliers and such. You’re right, they aren’t going anywhere. The move may be a good pre-emptive strategy on the companies part
Not that I was planning to buy a VW anyway, but if I’m going to buy a foreign car, it won’t be one made by the UAW.
Unions are respected by management in Germany. I think VW is unsure on how to deal with workers at a manufacturing facility without working through a union.
im not giving them a choice ;-))
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Yup, big companies often prefer to deal with the union over the individual. The last union shop I worked in invited the AFL-CIO in to help organize an independent union as a means of keeping the UAW out.
I DO NOT BELIEVE there are nearly that many people still think unions are a good idea. This is a bogus vote! Union members hitting hard.
LOL, it only matters how the actual workers involve vote. Isn’t an online poll kind of ......... well, meaningless?
VW you are dead to me.
Poll has been anti-FReeped!
Yup. 52% (YES) to 47% (NO)
The union desperately wanted this “election” to be via “card check” which is totally open to intimidation.
VW tried the UAW route in their first USA plant in Pennsylvania in the late 70s, it was out of business within 10 years.
The joke is they tried this in 78 in Pennsylvania and it blew chunks.
Must be nobody in the Fatherland exec group old enough to remember?
Yeah, but those rubes didn’t know they could get endless bailouts from American taxpayers!
While I want America to succeed, I do not want to see short term socialist success, because that leads to long term tyranny. I value my freedom and liberty over the success of my country, especially of if that short term success benefits a lazy ass union scum that lacks the testicular fortitude to be American and stand on his on feet and make his own way in life. He is just a slave of another kind living a pathetic existence because he lacks the resolve to be a man, an American man.
Hence, I voted no in the poll, but more importantly I have voted twice in the last year with my hard earned money.
52% Say yes (12875 votes)
47% Say no (11674 votes)
24549 total votes
I’d bet this move is because it lets the company choose which union. Wouldn’t you rather have to deal with the UAW than SEIU (if you had to deal with a union...but it IS ironic that all these foreign car makers chose to build in the South, yet are facing the same ole the US mfgrs had in Detroit)
nascarnation- I swiped this one from the DUmmies, so BIIIG union push.
SandRat- thank you for the update
to bigheadfred- yeees? Noooo!
gorush- I think so, too. It was skewed before I saw it. I haven’t been back to see what to do next (if ya know what I mean)
doorgunner- don’t blame you. Jeeper here, so mine is made in Mexico anyway. (Hopefully will last me the rest of my life)
Twelve- same here. If I ever own another foreign car, it will probably be an oldie European.
Thank you, dynachrome!
wetgundog- Keep the South union free!
Chode- I dunno. Are Germans pro-union?
ConservativeinPA- I hear ya. And suddenly, this whole push for illegals makes sense.
EXCH54FE- Thank you for the update! We’re gaining on them. I have to let the pups out & then get the tools out ;-) I guess.
Boy are they in for a surprise, then, if it passes.
I believe in buying American, but I agree with your reasons for doing otherwise.
If you want good engineering, but far better reliability, and non union, go with Jap cars.
I don’t have as much of a problem with private sector unions as I once did. Now public sector unions where politicians hand them goodies in exchange for votes on taxpayer dime is another issue.
My rationale on the private sector has changed over the years and these are my reasons. CEO managers (not the entrepreneurs that risked their own capital) should be “at will” employees that are fireable at any time by shareholder owners. Instead they get iron clad gold plated labor contracts that reward them for failure and make them fireproof. The guy at Yahoo was let go for incompetence and got $80 mil for 11 months..
In the building trades the unions do require that their members meet at least some proficiency levels that in the end offer a chance to keep society safer. Too many contractors hire illegals and want only bodies even if they know nothing. It may not be perfect but it is better than nothing that exists in 3rd world countries where buildings are falling down regularly.
Should VW unionize in Chattanooga?
Say yes(12961 votes)
Say no(11998 votes)
24959 total votes
Yes 46% (13121 votes)
No 53% (15303 votes)
28424 total votes
;-) There ya go. Great job, FRiends! (& I bet the locals deserve some of the credit, too)
“Unions are respected by management in Germany. I think VW is unsure on how to deal with workers at a manufacturing facility without working through a union.”
The idea is to create a “german-style” management-labor relationship, where all have a voice at the table, throughout the manufacturing process, in partnership with the UAW.
I think they will find, like Daimler learned the hard way, that the UAW could give a damn less about the workers. They just care about the empowerment of the Union Leadership.
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