I doubt many will disagree with you.
Interesting enough, but needs paragraphs.
Where is her father?
I will never talk with a police officer again. EVER. And they are not on our side. Sorry to the LEOs in the Freep World, but your buddies made it bad for everyone.
http://kingcorey.com/2008/12/dont-talk-to-police-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever/
Is it the mother’s house? If so, she makes the rules for those living there. Twenty year olds should be living where they can choose their own life style. Instead of attacking the mother’s Christianity, you should be grateful that she isn’t a Muslim or there would be no need for this post.
Actually, if the YL wanted to a d—k about it all she would have to do is go to the local magistrate and apply for DVP (domestic violence protection) order against the mother, which are pretty much rubber stamped by the local magistrates. Since they reside under the same roof, odds are the mother would be kicked out of her own house until the case is resolved, which could take months....
If your domestic violence laws are similar to those here in IL, if 911 had been called the cops would have interviewed the parties separately, made a determination as to who was the aggressor, and that person would have spent the night in jail. That said, never expect the police to be lawyers, especially in a case like this where the YL is 20, not a child. Good luck to them.
Cops are there to enforce the laws as they personally interperate the law. Once you are dealing with a cop your best bet is to shut up. There are so many stupid laws you can be arrested for anything. I don’t know the right cpurse of action in this situation but it seems unreasonable that a street cop should know the ins and outs of domicile laws.
The magistrate probably doesn’t know the law any better than the cop.
I once had a teenage girl tell a sob story and one of her friends took her in. In one night the woman was calling around trying to find someone to take her off her hands. I had warned her because I knew the father so I knew what the girl was saying about him were lies.
If you step up and take this young lady in, be prepared for her to stay a while. And be prepared to come to the realization that the situation probably bears little resemblance to the picture she’s painting.
By the way, why didn’t the boy she was making out with come to her rescue?
There is a difference between the laws that apply between landlord and tenant, and the laws that apply between tenant and guest. And each state is a little different, so who knows what Georgia courts would say.
I have clients tell me all the time that they called and asked the police.
I have heard judges say “the police are not lawyers”
police love playing God however
Now as for this young lady you are helping, if she is over 18, she is a guest in mom’s house in most places. She has no license to stay at mom’s house unless she is paying rent. If she is paying rent, then she has to be evicted. A line I have heard is that “if I get mail there, I have a right to be there”. No. You don’t. Or, ‘if I have been there fore 30 days, I have a right to be there” No, you don’t.
If she is a minor, then mom is responsible for necessities, but the counter to that is kid has to follow the rules.
So, kid is a idiot for making out in a car in her own driveway, her boyfriend is a loser and good luck to them both. Thank you for helping her, but she will likely spit on you shortly too. You will find her messy, eating and lazy and you will want her gone too.
She is obviously entitled and too stupid to make it on her own, but you have bitten off more than you can chew.
I guess my general rule of thumb is: Don’t take people in who’s mothers have booted them out of the home.
I mean really, just play the percentage game. Sure there is going to be a small %% of screwed up mothers kicking gainfully employed, polite and considerate children out of the house. But all in all it’s probably the mother tired of being economically abused and having her good will thrown in her face.
Older relatives and friends fall into the parent/child trap when taking in young adults. Let the younger cousins and friends take em in.
I could be wrong and the laws may have changed in the past several years since I last witnessed it in Georgia, so...
I realize the YL is a family member, but unless she can produce a rental agreement and/or receipts for payment of rent or lodging, she is a guest and no eviction process is necessary. A tresspass warning is sufficient. If the YL refuses to leave, she can be arrested for trespass after warning.
However, if the situation does indicate the eviction process is required, then it is a civil matter and the deputy’s job is only to keep the peace. He has no say in who stays or goes without a court order, signed by a judge, ordering the Sheriff (the Deputy’s boss) to take specific action listed in the order.
As soon as you realized the Deputy was stricken with “Barney Fife Authoritarianism” disease — which seems to be incurable and spreading rapidly — then you should immediately change your demeanor to shutting up, answering in mono-syllables and generally “smiling and nodding your head knowingly” so that the deputy doesn’t hang around any more than is absolutely necessary. You will also know that next time, you should have (at a minimum) an audio recorder to document the interaction.
At least, that’s what I would do.
I know a young lady who is pregnant and was kicked out into the streets. Spent a few nights on the streets. Someone took her in and she was kicked out two nights later. I guess this happened a dozen times during her pregnancy.
She even got kicked out of a couple of homes for pregnant unwed girls.
It was never her fault. All these people were just heartless.
Uh huh.
The first time this happened, I was at a Christian meeting. I considered driving 500 miles to pick her up. I prayed and really felt the answer was “No”.
I got counsel from a number of people who I respect and who are very charitable. They agreed I should not do it.
Sometimes what seems to be the Christian thing to do is actually interfering with God’s work. Like when Paul said if a man won’t work don’t let him eat.
I’ve made this mistake several times recently, going to rescue someone who is down and out. My heart was right , but I didn’t bother to pray about it first. I found out later I made things worse.
The danger is becoming callous to those who genuinely need help. I think I err on the side of charity and action.
Joshua 9 tells about Joshua and the leaders of Israel making a covenant with the Gibeonites. They were apparently down and out and respected the Israelites and their God. It says they did not counsel with God. This covenant became a great burden for them and brought them a lot of distress.
Whomever believed that the cops “are the law” never understood the law. Cops are next to the dumbest people, it is why they are cops and not lawyers or something else. In the military the threat in school was always, “Flunk out here and we make you a cook or a cop.”
are you the young man?
You are correct. If you want legal advice, ask a lawyer.