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Hall of Fame slugger Ralph Kiner dies at 91
foxnews ^ | 02/05/14 | AP via FOX

Posted on 02/06/2014 12:46:32 PM PST by Doogle

RANCHO MIRAGE, Calif. – The baseball Hall of Fame says slugger Ralph Kiner has died. He was 91.

The Hall says Kiner died Thursday at his home in Rancho Mirage.

Kiner hit 369 home runs during his 10-year career, mostly with the Pittsburgh Pirates. He won or tied for the National League lead in homers in each of his first seven seasons.

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TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: baseball; mlb; obituary; ralphkiner
RIP Mr Kiner
1 posted on 02/06/2014 12:46:32 PM PST by Doogle
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To: Doogle

Remember when he broadcast Mets games and has his Kiner’s Corner post-game show.


2 posted on 02/06/2014 12:50:01 PM PST by C19fan
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To: Doogle
One of the lesser known Hall of Famers, but still very much loved in Pittsburgh. He was one of the bright stars when Pittsburgh was a perennial door mat during those long years between when the Warner Brothers and Pie Traynor retired and that fabulous 1960 World Championship team.There were 33 long years between post season appearances.
3 posted on 02/06/2014 12:51:24 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: C19fan
I thought it was "Kiner's Korner".
4 posted on 02/06/2014 12:51:32 PM PST by Dr. Sivana ("We are not sluts."--Sandra Fluke)
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To: Doogle

He was great as a Mets broadcaster.

He even was doing some games this past season. He will be missed.

RIP Ralph


5 posted on 02/06/2014 12:51:52 PM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: Doogle

His numbers look very, very good when you compare him to his peers. Guys like Willie Mays and Frank Robinson were better hitters, but the pickings get real lean as that was a pitcher’s decade.


6 posted on 02/06/2014 12:52:53 PM PST by Dr. Sivana ("We are not sluts."--Sandra Fluke)
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To: Doogle

Old school. I remember him!


7 posted on 02/06/2014 12:53:21 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Doogle

RIP Mr Kiner...

...indeed...loved Kiner from the start of his Mets broadcasting career...I only remember the last few years of his playing days...but loved the original trio of Kiner, Lindsay Nelson, and Bob Murphy doing the awful Mets games back in the early sixties...


8 posted on 02/06/2014 12:53:39 PM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: Doogle
RIP.

I thought he would live forever.

9 posted on 02/06/2014 12:53:43 PM PST by LdSentinal
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To: Dr. Sivana

I remember the ‘69 Mets broadcast team -

Ralph Kiner
Lindsey Nelson
Bob Murphy


10 posted on 02/06/2014 12:55:25 PM PST by Col Frank Slade
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To: Vigilanteman

People used to leave Forbes Field in the 7th. inning if the Bucs were behind and it was clear Kiner would not be getting another turn at bat. His #4 has been retired. Former ABC newswoman Kathleen Kennedy was at one time his daughter-in-law. I remember him broadcasting Mets games when WOR was on my cable.

RIP, Mr. Kiner.


11 posted on 02/06/2014 12:55:52 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Doogle

I didn’t even know He was still alive. Used to watch the Mets broadcasts back in the late 60’s-70’s. Kiner was teamed with Lindsay Nelson and Bob Murphy. Kiner knew his baseball but the other two were just along for the ride.


12 posted on 02/06/2014 12:56:28 PM PST by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: Col Frank Slade
I remember the ‘69 Mets broadcast team -

Ralph Kiner Lindsey Nelson Bob Murphy


They stuck together as the Mets went in auto-desruct mode, dumping great pitchers in exchange for cheaper, marginal talent. Tom Seaver for Steve Henderson and a coupla guys named nobody? Willie Montanez? By the late '70s they just had stearns, Koosman and Mazilli. Pretty sad, except for us Dodger fans!
13 posted on 02/06/2014 12:59:37 PM PST by Dr. Sivana ("We are not sluts."--Sandra Fluke)
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To: qam1

He was great as a Mets broadcaster.

...I’ll never forget when Claude Raymond came in to pitch, and Kiner referred to him as the ‘bespeckled righthander’...


14 posted on 02/06/2014 12:59:38 PM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: Doogle

Hey old Mets fans-—this should bring back memories...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dwtc2bVmsDM


15 posted on 02/06/2014 1:00:28 PM PST by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Yes. My bad.


16 posted on 02/06/2014 1:01:14 PM PST by C19fan
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To: tflabo

This one too....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTLmDuhV3AQ


17 posted on 02/06/2014 1:01:49 PM PST by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: Doogle
I got drunk with Ralph Kiner and a buddy of mine in the Shea stadium media bar after a game one night. Drank with him until about 2 in the morning. I guess he thought we were supposed to be there, though we had snuck in and partook of hours of free booze. My friend had a really big camera, I think that's how it happened.

Bob Murphy was there too, but left after an hour. Ralph was really funny and opinionated! At that time, he thought Shawn Dunston was the best player in baseball and that's one of the things we argued about.

18 posted on 02/06/2014 1:03:02 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Vigilanteman

I think you mean the Waner brothers, Lloyd and Paul aka Big and Little Poison. (I know, autocorrect...) Thanks for your remembrance of Buccos history. The team is in ascendency again, with a WS title possible in the next three years.

RIP to Mr. Home Run.


19 posted on 02/06/2014 1:04:59 PM PST by Lisbon1940
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To: Vigilanteman
One of the lesser known Hall of Famers, but still very much loved in Pittsburgh.

You can quickly tell a person's age by what they remember about Ralph Kiner. Younger people remember him as the Mets broadcaster whereas old fogies like me think first of him as a Pirate.

I guess it also applies to Pie Traynor as well. Younger people recall him only for "Who can? Ameri-CAN!" on Studio Wrestling. :)

20 posted on 02/06/2014 1:11:11 PM PST by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: Dr. Sivana

And the worst trade in NY Mets history is trading Nolan Ryan to the Angels for washed up 3rd baseman Jim Fregosi. When Nolan pitched for the Mets and Jerry Grote was the catcher it was an all Texas battery.


21 posted on 02/06/2014 1:11:26 PM PST by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: tflabo

Jerry Grote was an exceptional backup catcher!


22 posted on 02/06/2014 1:12:25 PM PST by Dr. Sivana ("We are not sluts."--Sandra Fluke)
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To: Doogle

I remember him well from my childhood, as the announcer for the Mets. I was not a fanatic fan, during the 60’s it was hard not to regard the Mets as jokes, esp next to the fabled Yankees. But this was a guy whose name is synonymous with baseball maybe only a notch below Mantle and Ruth.


23 posted on 02/06/2014 1:12:51 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: re_nortex

Younger people remember him as the Mets broadcaster whereas old fogies like me think first of him as a Pirate.

...I remember him playing for the Indians...very brief...


24 posted on 02/06/2014 1:15:53 PM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: Dr. Sivana

No he was the starting catcher for the Mets.


25 posted on 02/06/2014 1:16:36 PM PST by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: Doogle

He once dated Liz Taylor.


26 posted on 02/06/2014 1:17:23 PM PST by o-n-money
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To: tflabo
And the worst trade in NY Mets history is trading Nolan Ryan to the Angels for washed up 3rd baseman Jim Fregosi.

Matlack and Milner for Montanez and Grieve is right up there, though.
27 posted on 02/06/2014 1:17:39 PM PST by Dr. Sivana ("We are not sluts."--Sandra Fluke)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Jerry Grote was an exceptional backup catcher!

...as good as Choo Choo Coleman...?


28 posted on 02/06/2014 1:18:38 PM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: Doogle
I used to listen to Bob Elson and Ralph Kiner broadcast White Sox games on WFTL in Fort Lauderdale in the late 1950’s and 1960’s.
29 posted on 02/06/2014 1:20:13 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: tflabo
No he was the starting catcher for the Mets.

I didn't say he wasn't. But he was an excellent backup catcher for the Dodgers, who got him for two permanent minor leaguers. He was an okay starting catcher, but John Stearns was better. I will never forget when John Stearns took on Dave Parker at the plate, and won. Parker had to be fitted with a hockey mask or something.

Speaking of Pirates, Felix Milan was fun to watch until Ed Ott took him out of the American game with a horrific cheap shot.
30 posted on 02/06/2014 1:20:55 PM PST by Dr. Sivana ("We are not sluts."--Sandra Fluke)
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To: tflabo
And the worst trade in NY Mets history is trading Nolan Ryan to the Angels for washed up 3rd baseman Jim Fregosi.

Disagree. Nolan couldn't handle playing in New York and was thinking of retiring. When he told Gil Hodges that, Gil immediately requested he be traded.

If Nolan stayed in New York he never would have been the pitcher he became and would be long forgotten by now.

The Mets at the time really needed offense, so the Jim Fregosi trade would have been a good deal except for the unfortunate (and all too common in Mets history) freak injury which essentially ended his career.

31 posted on 02/06/2014 1:21:52 PM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: Lisbon1940
Yes, you are correct. The Waner bothers were a generation or more before my time, but the 1927 version of the Pirates was one of the best to ever take the field.

Too bad most people have forgotten about them because the 1927 version of the Yankees were the best to ever take the field. Even the second place Philadelphia A's team that year had no less than eight future Hall of Famers on their roster.

Modernists may try to argue that later teams performed better than the 1927 Yankees. But later teams didn't have nine inning pitchers and the caliber of opponents like the 1927 A's (in their own league) or 1927 Pirates (in the world series). Not even close.

Damn shame that Kiner and Ernie Banks never got the chance to play in the World Series. But at least Ernie got a lot closer to it than Ralph.

32 posted on 02/06/2014 1:23:13 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: IrishBrigade
...as good as Choo Choo Coleman...?

Better than Choo Choo, who in turn was a better catcher than Derrel Thomas.
33 posted on 02/06/2014 1:23:49 PM PST by Dr. Sivana ("We are not sluts."--Sandra Fluke)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Who was, in turn, a better catcher than Harry Chiti. The first player to be traded for himself as “the player to be named latter”. That’s how bad he was! The 1962 Mets sent him packing.


34 posted on 02/06/2014 1:32:55 PM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry (Audentis Fortuna Iuvat)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Better than Choo Choo, who in turn was a better catcher than Derrel Thomas.

...I liked Hobie Landrith myself...also liked the original Mets coaches of Solly Hemus, Cookie Lavagetto, and the great Rogers Hornsby, to say nothing of good ol’ Casey Stengel...


35 posted on 02/06/2014 1:34:09 PM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: re_nortex
I guess it also applies to Pie Traynor as well. Younger people recall him only for "Who can? Ameri-CAN!" on Studio Wrestling. :)

Not too young...he died in 1972!


36 posted on 02/06/2014 1:35:25 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry

The 1962 Mets sent him packing.

...everything about the ‘62 Mets brings back wonderful memories for me...National League baseball again...


37 posted on 02/06/2014 1:36:10 PM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: qam1
So true. And don't forget that Fregosi had been the all-star shortstop for the 1967 AL Champs just four short years before the trade. Fregosi was only 29 years old at the time and had been an all-start in six of his previous seven seasons. Not bad credentials at all!

Ryan pitched a mere 2 1/3 inning of relief in his first and only World Series with against Baltimore in 1969 and he was 10-14 with a 3.97 ERA in his last year with the Mets, arguably his best year up until that time. Those were statistics for a journeyman pitcher or middle reliever, not a future Hall of Famer.

Gil Hodges deserves a lot of credit for doing what was best for one of his young players at the time.

38 posted on 02/06/2014 1:39:25 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: tflabo

Jerry Grote came to my school, for a banquet, in 1970. He was absolutely the biggest jerk I had ever met, in my 12 years, on the planet. They teamed him up with relief pitcher, Ron Taylor (later to become a doctor), who couldn’t have been nicer, to us kids. Before signing an autograph, he asked every kid his name, asked him about his favorite subject in school, and then signed “To my pal, Tom (etc.), your buddy, Ron Taylor”. Grote signed in an illegible scrawl, and any kid that dared speak to him was greeted with a nasty scowl. I hope he reads this, too.


39 posted on 02/06/2014 1:40:40 PM PST by jttpwalsh
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To: Col Frank Slade
Ralph Kiner, Lindsey Nelson, Bob Murphy
And they hung around for a long, long time. Loved 'em.
Though I'm a Yankees fan, I would watch any Mets game where Kiner was a guest, right through last season.
A true gentleman and one of baseball's all time greats.
40 posted on 02/06/2014 1:51:45 PM PST by oh8eleven (claimer)
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To: Doogle

Ralph was also a US Navy pilot in the pacific theater during WWII. 1943-45. RIP Ralph.


41 posted on 02/06/2014 1:52:43 PM PST by Wiggins
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To: Doogle; C19fan

42 posted on 02/06/2014 2:03:19 PM PST by Libloather (Embrace the suck)
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To: Doogle

Was a Navy pilot in WWII.


43 posted on 02/06/2014 2:53:25 PM PST by Portcall24
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To: Doogle; windcliff; stylecouncilor

What must it be like for an old player to not be able to play anymore?

I’m 64 and still in “practice shape” as opposed to playing shape. But it’s enough to still be able to throw and hit. And I love to pitch, albeit if I hit 60 these days, well.... But man, to yet paint those corners....

RIP Ralph Kiner. Hopefully I might work my way into a pick-up game in Heaven with you and some of the guys.


44 posted on 02/06/2014 4:33:39 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Doogle

RIP.


45 posted on 02/06/2014 6:47:48 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Dr. Sivana

They got of course Henderson, but also Pat Zachry, Doug Flynn and last but not least Dan Norman. I remember Norman taking a fly ball off the head in the Astrodome in rightfield. Had to be the worst fielding outfielder ever.


46 posted on 02/06/2014 7:26:36 PM PST by gusty
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To: Doogle

I was a little boy in the early 70s, listening to Ralph on my transistor radio tucked under my pillow after bedtime. It seemed like magic to me, following the Mets play far away in the dark of night. It is such a sweet memory. Thanks Ralph


47 posted on 02/06/2014 7:35:43 PM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: C19fan

I remember Kiner’s Corner. Also whenever the Mets won he’d do the “Happy Recap”. I grew up listening to him, along with Lindsey Nelson and Bob Murphy doing the play-by-play. RIP, Mr Kiner.


48 posted on 02/09/2014 6:22:04 AM PST by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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