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More Governments Aim to Ban Plastic Bags
American Legislator ^ | 2-6-14 | John Eick

Posted on 02/06/2014 1:19:04 PM PST by ThethoughtsofGreg

Think you’re green? Not unless you ban or tax the common plastic bag that consumers use every day to carry their groceries, among other things.

From California to Rhode Island, municipalities are considering – or have enacted – plastic bag bans or fees on consumers at the register when making a purchase.

Reasons given for such restrictions to consumer choice are plenty, but the most common is that plastic bags are not recyclable (patently false), they take an excessive amount of natural resources and energy to manufacture (not true compared to alternatives) and they are the main culprit contributing to litter (another misconception).

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: anticapitalist; employment; environment; foryourowngood; green; greenieweeenies; jobs; nannystate

1 posted on 02/06/2014 1:19:04 PM PST by ThethoughtsofGreg
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To: ThethoughtsofGreg

As a byproduct of the oil process, I’d think that efficient use of leftover bits would be commended. So, they are purported to just sit around in landfills and not decompose. How is that different from their parent, oil?


2 posted on 02/06/2014 1:21:44 PM PST by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: ThethoughtsofGreg
The greens are the ones that pushed for plastic bags in the first place. To save the trees.


3 posted on 02/06/2014 1:22:08 PM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is)
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To: ThethoughtsofGreg

Plastic bags are the cheapest, most recyclable, least environmentally damaging container available. As with DDT anything truly beneficial must be demonized.


4 posted on 02/06/2014 1:23:03 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: ThethoughtsofGreg

The ten-cent bag tax will be another cash cow for the politicians. Watch for it to go up, and up, and up, as do bridge tolls.


5 posted on 02/06/2014 1:25:48 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: ThethoughtsofGreg

First they came for the plast bags, and I said nothing.

Then they came for the paper bags, and I said nothing.

Then I carried my crap home in a moldy canvas bag, too small to put more than 5 items in.


6 posted on 02/06/2014 1:28:26 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: ThethoughtsofGreg

How about requiring welfare folks to spend a few hours picking up these errant bags?

PS Calif wants all food handlers to wear gloves. And change frequently. Where will all these gloves end up? Where the bags used to accumulate?


7 posted on 02/06/2014 1:32:05 PM PST by Scrambler Bob ("The Pen" has a nice ring to it, kind of like "Graybar Hotel")
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To: ThethoughtsofGreg

This is good news for shoplifters. They can bring their own bags with false bottoms. More shoplifting means fewer retail stores. The retail industry is already on its back without this stupid gubmint intervention into the marketplace.


8 posted on 02/06/2014 1:39:24 PM PST by forgotten man
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To: gitmo

Yup.....


9 posted on 02/06/2014 1:39:55 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: ThethoughtsofGreg

the rest of the world will use what they don’t


10 posted on 02/06/2014 1:43:40 PM PST by molson209 (Hillary Clinton)
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To: ThethoughtsofGreg; a fool in paradise
It turns out, Mr Graduate, that the future is not in plastics!


11 posted on 02/06/2014 1:43:42 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: ThethoughtsofGreg

It was their stupid idea. Bring back paper for dry goods, plastic for meats, frozen, etc only. Or better yet- boxes.
Why do they always go from one extreme to another?

Cloth bags could be a pandemic looking for a place to happen.


12 posted on 02/06/2014 1:45:46 PM PST by KGeorge (Till we're together again, Gypsy girl. May 28, 1998- June 3, 2013)
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To: Revolting cat!

Even thirty years or so after seeing that movie in the theatre, I cringe at that particlar scene of Marathon Man. I don’t recall anything else about the movie but that scene.


13 posted on 02/06/2014 1:49:19 PM PST by lee martell
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To: KGeorge

“better yet- boxes”

You just jogged my memory. As a child I remember going to Central Market in Olneyville, RI. The stock people would put the boxes from the produce they had just put on the shelve under the shelves. You would just select a box from under the shelf and go to the register where they would pack your groceries in a nice box for you to take home. I wonder what Kroger would say if I brought in an amazon box for them to put my groceries into.


14 posted on 02/06/2014 1:57:13 PM PST by heylady (“Sometimes I wish I could be a Democrat and then I remember I have a soul.”( Deb))
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To: ThethoughtsofGreg

Such distressing news .. might have to go out back and throw an old tire on the burn pile to console myself !


15 posted on 02/06/2014 2:06:00 PM PST by tomkat
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To: ThethoughtsofGreg
Translation: The paper bag manufacturers are bigger donors than the plastic bag manufacturers.

That's how the system works these days. It ain't about litter or dead birds eating plastic bags or the environment or moon spots.

Follow the money.

16 posted on 02/06/2014 2:07:38 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: KGeorge

I have tried telling the spousal unit for years that the fabric bags have drawbacks to no end. It seems that I find one or two more around home collecting dust with all the others.

I get the recycling everything lecture since I really don’t like being an unpaid trash sorter. I will toss stuff in trash or a bin since I don’t like stuff piling up.


17 posted on 02/06/2014 2:24:50 PM PST by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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Had Enough Yet ?............................


18 posted on 02/06/2014 2:32:42 PM PST by S.O.S121.500 (Had Enough Yet ?............................ Enforce the Bill of Rights............ It's the LAW !!!)
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To: ThethoughtsofGreg
Here's a solution: buy a whole bunch of plastic bags (4 cents each) at Amazon and keep them in your car. Bring 'em in the supermarket for your own use:

http://www.amazon.com/Garvey-063036-Thank-Printed-Plastic/dp/B0017D3RIQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1391729548&sr=8-1&keywords=plastic+shopping+bags

19 posted on 02/06/2014 3:35:03 PM PST by bkopto (Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free.)
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To: ThethoughtsofGreg

When someone comes up with a paper bag as sturdy & lightweight as a plastic one w/handles on it, fine. But for people who use a cane, walker, or have arthritis, the plastic ones are irreplaceable. And they can be used as trashcan liners, packing small objects, sorting clothes for wash (whites, colors), etc. They don’t just get thrown away in my house...


20 posted on 02/06/2014 3:37:04 PM PST by Exeter (A government that doesn't trust its people is a government that shouldn't be trusted.)
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To: bkopto

That is exactly what I intend to do. Sam’s Club online has them also.


21 posted on 02/06/2014 3:59:58 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: ThethoughtsofGreg

what will I put the dog poo in?


22 posted on 02/06/2014 4:09:38 PM PST by 1st Division guy
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To: ThethoughtsofGreg

Hollywood: Plastic bags can be made biodegradable. But there’s a kind of perverse satisfaction in watching the hoy-paloy in this town having to lug their own increasingly dirty bags back and forth to the grocery. -30-


23 posted on 02/06/2014 4:14:30 PM PST by onedoug
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To: heylady; wally_bert

heylady- It would save them having to break down the boxes & deal with them, too. Seems like common sense/ win-win to me. Boxed groceries were a little before my time, but tv shows like Dobie Gillis & (I think) Leave It To Beaver used to depict people getting their groceries in boxes. Costco does it now (I know, lib outfit, but we get the dogs’ meds there since they’re so much cheaper.)
We should do that (take our own box). Maybe it would start a movement.

wally-bert, I hate stuff piling up, too. I am really sick of that stupid recycle bin & the “can bag” (DH insists on selling our soda cans & then we have to have a discussion ;-) when they start taking up too much room in the garage. (I gots a 4 bag limit). They’re in my way. I don’t like the way the city uses it to strong-arm people, either. (That’s a whole other rant).

I’ve got enough laundry to do w/out adding grocery totes that have to be washed in hot water.


24 posted on 02/06/2014 5:23:01 PM PST by KGeorge (Till we're together again, Gypsy girl. May 28, 1998- June 3, 2013)
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To: gitmo

And they can be reused/repurposed to collect the poop your dog leaves on the neighbor’s lawn.


25 posted on 02/06/2014 6:58:44 PM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: KosmicKitty

They are very handy for that. We’ve got an aging dog that occasionally has accidents.


26 posted on 02/06/2014 7:03:17 PM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is)
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To: lee martell

Why is he being tortured?


27 posted on 02/06/2014 7:53:48 PM PST by diamond6 (Behold this Heart which has so loved men!" Jesus to St. Margaret Mary)
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To: diamond6

I think the older man played by Lawrence Olivier t was an ex nazi now working as a dentist, if you can imagine such bad luck for any patient. Dustin Hoffman was asking leading questions. Making the old man think his cover may get blown. Dustins character is being punished or tortured for causing the old nazi to panic. I think that was the story.


28 posted on 02/06/2014 9:01:17 PM PST by lee martell
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To: diamond6

“Is it safe?”


29 posted on 02/06/2014 9:05:43 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: Louis Foxwell

And, if you go to the store ad forget to bring your bus you have two choices:

a. you can buy a paper bag for about .10 cents
b. you can buy a heavy plastic bag which is usable for about 100 times. Cost about $1.00.

You have NO OPTION and CANNOT BUY UNDER AND CIRCUMSTANCES cheap plastic bags [which usually run about .02.5 cents a bag0.


30 posted on 02/06/2014 9:15:45 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: lee martell

Sounds awful!!


31 posted on 02/07/2014 8:07:18 AM PST by diamond6 (Behold this Heart which has so loved men!" Jesus to St. Margaret Mary)
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To: Revolting cat!; GeronL; Slings and Arrows

Banning plastic bags and giving out free condoms.

Liberalism is a mental disorder!


32 posted on 02/07/2014 9:48:43 AM PST by a fool in paradise ("Health care is too important to be left to the government.")
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To: gitmo
The greens are the ones that pushed for plastic bags in the first place. To save the trees.

And provide a use for recycled plastic milk cartons.

33 posted on 02/07/2014 9:49:44 AM PST by a fool in paradise ("Health care is too important to be left to the government.")
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To: a fool in paradise

Yes it is!


34 posted on 02/07/2014 10:56:26 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: 21twelve

“Why don’t you try acting?”


35 posted on 02/08/2014 7:07:04 PM PST by diamond6 (Behold this Heart which has so loved men!" Jesus to St. Margaret Mary)
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To: gitmo

Trees cause global warming.


36 posted on 02/08/2014 7:18:32 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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