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Who Owns The Federal Reserve?
Market Oracle, UK ^ | 9 February 2014 | Ellen_Brown

Posted on 02/09/2014 7:58:51 AM PST by Errant

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To: dynoman
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61 posted on 02/09/2014 1:07:15 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dennisw
Thanks, we all know the Fed can create money out of thin air.

And I know that banks cannot.

62 posted on 02/09/2014 1:10:25 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Back in the days when a trillion dollars in debt seemed like real money.


63 posted on 02/09/2014 1:30:04 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Banks are accountable for the money they create out of thin air via loans. They cannot just “make” this money and steal it.

The Fed is not accountable. It does the real “money creation” out of thin air. And it does do a lot of stealing by hiring a huge do nothing (highly liberal and affirmative action) workforce that churns out useless studies. Plus the lavish salaries and bennies they pay themselves. The FR workforce gets paid way too generously plus the Fed is always building and upgrading office space to be suitably lavish. Billions that does not get remitted to the US Treasury


64 posted on 02/09/2014 1:35:16 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dennisw
Banks are accountable for the money they create out of thin air via loans.

Banks create money by lending deposits. They cannot create money out of thin air.

65 posted on 02/09/2014 1:39:56 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Fractional reserve banking means you have created money. 500 years ago.....You (banker) have one bar of gold in your vaults but have loaned out the equivalent of three bars of gold. Your business behaves as if it possesses three bars of gold not just one. Same thing goes on today but the banks are accountable for the books they keep on all this activity

But the Fed is where the real money creation and destruction takes place


66 posted on 02/09/2014 3:09:34 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dennisw
500 years ago.....You (banker) have one bar of gold in your vaults but have loaned out the equivalent of three bars of gold. Your business behaves as if it possesses three bars of gold not just one. Same thing goes on today

Nope. If the bank has one "bar of gold" ($10,000) they lend out less than one "bar of gold" ($10,000), not three "bars of gold" ($30,000)

67 posted on 02/09/2014 3:37:42 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

While banks can’t literally print their own money in a system with a central bank, they can increase the money supply. In a system of fiat currency, banks’ monetary base (i.e., what is actually in the “vaults”) is made up of money backed by the central bank. However, when banks make loans above their reserve (which is pretty much always), it adds to the money supply, specifically what economists call “M2” and “M3” (depending on the type of loan), which are considered less “liquid” than the monetary base. Thus, lending can (but not necessarily will) cause inflation.

********* wrong Todd


68 posted on 02/09/2014 3:42:03 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Fractional-reserve_banking


69 posted on 02/09/2014 3:42:28 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dennisw
While banks can’t literally print their own money in a system with a central bank, they can increase the money supply.

Yes, when banks loan out a fraction of deposits, they increase the money supply.

70 posted on 02/09/2014 4:27:34 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: dennisw

You should probably read that, you might be less confused.


71 posted on 02/09/2014 4:28:22 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

So you new negative cause is misrepresenting fractional reserve banking


72 posted on 02/09/2014 4:54:04 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dennisw

Same cause, correcting your errors.


73 posted on 02/09/2014 4:57:26 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: dynoman

I got raped the other way around... I was a Wachovia Bank shareholder... when the mortgage crisis hit, Wachovia was in decent shape as it didn’t have the exposure to the fiasco of mortgage backed instruments. Wachovia refused to take TARP money it didn’t want. For some reason I can not understand the scumbags on the board at Wachovia got in bed with Wells Fargo and soon enough Wells Fargo bought up Wachovia for 10 cents on the dollar. I lost 90% of a really good sized chunk of holdings that I had inheireted as First Union Stock back in the 1990s... it just sat in a DRIP... and First Union was going up and up and up and the dividend was going up and up and up... it was growing exponentially... then Wachovia and First Union joined up. Then the market tanked.


74 posted on 02/09/2014 5:44:59 PM PST by Rodamala
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To: mulligan

the Federal Reserve is NOT part of our government
its just some bank
some BIG bank
and a scam


75 posted on 02/09/2014 8:09:08 PM PST by SisterK (behold a pale horse)
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bkmk


76 posted on 02/09/2014 9:44:55 PM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: Errant

bkmk


77 posted on 02/10/2014 10:44:11 AM PST by Faith65 (Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior!)
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To: SisterK
the Federal Reserve is NOT part of our government

Sure it is.

its just some bank some BIG bank

Yup, a big Central Bank.

78 posted on 02/10/2014 2:58:46 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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