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Winter weirdness: Is Arctic warming to blame?
The Christian Science Monitor (via Yahoo) ^ | February 9, 2014 | Pete Spotts

Posted on 02/10/2014 1:36:03 PM PST by CedarDave

For Alaskans who have basked in record warmth, Atlantans who abandoned cars during a January snowstorm, or Californians enduring drought, this winter's extremes have been nothing if not memorable.

Drought or unusual warmth is in sync with the effects that climate scientists expect from global warming. But what about wintertime invasions of Arctic air into the US Deep South or into China, where, a new study indicates, record cold events became more frequent over the past 10 to 20 years?

For some climate scientists, January's extremes and the atmospheric patterns that nurtured and sustained them are fresh bits of information to apply to these intriguing questions: Has global warming's effect on the Arctic set the stage for persistent weather patterns that lead to extremes? If so, is the decline in Arctic sea ice the stage manager for the wintry events?

Nearly two years ago, two researchers identified atmospheric features that appear to tie a warming Arctic to mid-latitude weather extremes. Since then, when persistent weather patterns have brought drought or heat waves or repeated invasions of cold air to usually mild locations in winter, these links to the Arctic have become a go-to explanation among many commentators and policymakers.

Researchers working on the issue, however, caution that while they are uncovering intriguing hints of this tie-in, it is far from ironclad.

Nor is it merely an arcane debating point. If the proposition holds up, in principle it could help improve seasonal forecasts for temperature and precipitation.

"That would have huge economic implications," says Cecilia Bitz, a climate scientist at the University of Washington in Seattle who specializes in the role that Arctic sea ice plays in the climate system.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Science; Weather
KEYWORDS: arctic; climatechange; globalwarming
Lengthy article but the scientists' convolutions in trying to link recent frigid events to global warming misses one very important element in the analysis: The impact of the sun. In fact, the "S" word is not even mentioned in the 1,350 plus word article.

I invite others to post links to the Arctic summer sea ice graphics that show this past year the ice extent recovered from the retreat of the previous year (2012) and even that shrinkage was not all that different from documentation earlier in the 20th century before the age of satellites.

1 posted on 02/10/2014 1:36:04 PM PST by CedarDave
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To: CedarDave
Christian Science Weirdness: Is Collectivist Agenda to Blame?
2 posted on 02/10/2014 1:37:43 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The only way women can "have it all" is if men aren't allowed to have anything.)
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To: CedarDave

Of course, the cold weather has nothing to do with it being winter in the Northern Hemisphere.


3 posted on 02/10/2014 1:40:09 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: CedarDave
the decline in Arctic sea ice

That's where he lost me. I guess he doesn't want to be confused by the facts. Did the idiots trying to sail the Northwest Passage last summer ever break free of the ice?

4 posted on 02/10/2014 1:40:53 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: CedarDave

Ahhh . . . what “warming” is this?


5 posted on 02/10/2014 1:43:09 PM PST by YHAOS
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To: CedarDave
Winter weirdness: Is Arctic warming to blame?,

Once the first warming moved into the Arctic all of the cold moved to the suburbs.

6 posted on 02/10/2014 1:49:20 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Recycled Olympic tagline Shut up, Bob Costas. Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up!)
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To: CedarDave
Winter weirdness: Is Arctic warming to blame?

From the reports I've seen, it has been unusually warm this winter in Alaska and unusually cold in areas to the south (polar vortex). This would seem to indicate a shift in climatic conditions (maybe the jet stream or something else), which may be short term, or could last for centuries - who knows. My guess is that as cold as it has been in the South this winter, it will probably be a blazing hot summer come around May or June.

Some enterprising pseudo-scientist will probably write a book and get a big fat grant to study this.

7 posted on 02/10/2014 1:50:08 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Who but a TYRANT shoves down another man's throat what he has exempted himself from?)
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To: CedarDave

The arctic is so warm that the cold air has to flee south to get away.


8 posted on 02/10/2014 1:52:40 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: CedarDave

This winter is annoying, not weird.

Do people expect every Jan/Feb to be in the 40s and snow free?

Wait until it hits 90 in August. They will be back saying THAT is “unusual” too.


9 posted on 02/10/2014 1:52:46 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: CedarDave

Exactly. The world is getting colder because its getting warmer.


10 posted on 02/10/2014 1:54:05 PM PST by ZULU (Magua is sitting in the Oval Office. Ted Cruz/Phil Robertson in 2016.)
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To: CedarDave

These people need to be locked in a room with Joe Bastardi for as long as it takes.


11 posted on 02/10/2014 2:03:23 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: CedarDave

the question arrives with the premise, that “occassional” (not every year) variations from any preselected set of years, were never occassional variattions which occurred in any earlier preselected set of years

it would have everyone think that ONLY now for some “new and manmade reason” does Alaska have such a mild winter occassionally and only now does Atlanta have such a cold winter and only now has both those things occurred in the same season, and never before was there ever a season when it happended - which to believe that would be hogwash

http://www.wunderground.com/blog/weatherhistorian/snowstorms-in-the-south-an-historical-perspective


12 posted on 02/10/2014 2:07:25 PM PST by Wuli
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To: CedarDave

Aye mate. We live in a “solar system”. The sun controls the climate on ALL of the planets in that system. A small flare-up on the surface of the sun causes all kinds of repercussions on our little speck here 93 million miles away. I am getting so sick of this crap from people looking for grants and politicians looking for power!


13 posted on 02/10/2014 2:08:33 PM PST by mc5cents (Pray for America)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

The inter of 1973 into 1974 was like this one, only they didn’t call it a ‘polar vortex’ then. But it was warmer in Delta Junction Alaska than it was in the Dayton Ohio area for at least a two week period beginning right after Christmas.
My husband was doing engineering work on helicopters that required very cold temperatures. He was stuck in Alaska waiting for it to get cold enough to do the necessary testing for the project.


14 posted on 02/10/2014 2:11:52 PM PST by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: CedarDave

I think the Alaska party is over.
Fairbanks forecast low tonight is -45F.
There was one day last month when it was warmer than my vacation spot in Destin Florida, though.


15 posted on 02/10/2014 2:12:34 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: CedarDave

To teh cult of globull warming, EVERY weather event is “proof” of globull warming whether it be drought or flood, heat wave or blizzard, hurricane or mild weather.


16 posted on 02/10/2014 2:13:09 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: CedarDave
I invite others to post links to the Arctic summer sea ice graphics that show this past year the ice extent recovered from the retreat of the previous year (2012) and even that shrinkage was not all that different from documentation earlier in the 20th century before the age of satellites.

Unfortunately while the ice did grow/not shrink greatly this summer, all these Polar Vortexes are taking much of the cold away from the Arctic which means the Arctic sea ice has not been growing as much as it normally does this winter.

If things don't change soon, when the annual Arctic maximum sea ice extent is reached in another month or so, it might be smallest one observed (since satellite coverage in 1979).

Which of course means non-stop coverage by the media and fraudsters. They will of course ignore or downplay the 100 other things they got wrong (Like the Antarctic being a record extents)

17 posted on 02/10/2014 2:14:03 PM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: CedarDave

Whichever explaination can keep their government funding money flowing, or whichever explaination sounds best to market their ‘green’ products.
Hipsters spend billions on ‘green’ lifestyle. ‘Green” is an industry. Gotta keep the fear up to keep the money coming in.


18 posted on 02/10/2014 2:15:57 PM PST by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

You have to admit, their move from “global warming” to “climate change” when things stopped warming was very adept.

Now any friggin weather anomoly is covered.


19 posted on 02/10/2014 2:16:42 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Yep...
You can read an article one year that says “Heavy hurricane activity linked to global warming”
The read another article the next year that says “Slow hurricane activity linked to global warming”

HURRY!!! GO BUY SOMETHING THAT SAYS ‘GREEN’ ON THE PACKAGE!


20 posted on 02/10/2014 2:18:42 PM PST by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!)
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To: CedarDave
That would have huge economic implications," says Cecilia Bitz, a climate scientist at the University of Washington in Seattle who specializes in the role that Arctic sea ice plays in the climate system.

"Huge economic implications in the form of government grants. Yippee!"

21 posted on 02/10/2014 2:21:35 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: nascarnation

Not only that, but its marketed to make people believe that they are raping the planet and don’t care about the polar bears if they don’t drive a prius.
Liberals do everything according to ‘feelings’. If you don’t live a green lifestyle, then you don’t care.


22 posted on 02/10/2014 2:24:35 PM PST by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!)
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To: CedarDave
Every year, the weather is different than it was the year before. Sometimes a little different. Sometimes very different.

Every year. Everywhere.

23 posted on 02/10/2014 2:25:04 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: CedarDave
I invite others to post links to the Arctic summer sea ice graphics that show this past year the ice extent recovered from the retreat of the previous year (2012) and even that shrinkage was not all that different from documentation earlier in the 20th century before the age of satellites.

2013

(in bold red)
24 posted on 02/10/2014 2:33:15 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: gorush
These people need to be locked in a room with Joe Bastardi for as long as it takes.

Saturday Summary February 8, 2014

Joe talks about another wave of cold coming down, and points out blocking over Greenland is a sign of solar inactivity. Also, gratefully, Northern California should get a good dosing of rain.

25 posted on 02/10/2014 2:35:53 PM PST by CedarDave (Obama - Lord of the LIES!)
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To: CedarDave

“extreme”
“unusual”

What these scientists fail to understand is that weather varies. Weather doesn’t feel compelled to conform to the averages and the norms. “extreme” weather is normal.

Sometimes it’s cold, sometimes it’s warm. Sometimes it’s very cold, sometimes it’s very warm.

Get used to it!


26 posted on 02/10/2014 2:36:05 PM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: CedarDave

Joe’s Tweets (many not weather related) are awesome.
I love this guy!


27 posted on 02/10/2014 2:37:01 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: CedarDave

‘It’s nuts’: Joe Bastardi shreds global warming study for ‘stealing and repackaging’ ideas of others [correction added]

Posted at 7:20 pm on February 9, 2014 by Twitchy Staff

@BigJoeBastardi @BloombergNews sssh...Joe you're ruining the left wing bourgeois plan of burdening us w/ their unconstitutional "carbon tax"
Nathan (@OdinsSleepiner) February 09, 2014

WeatherBell.com chief meteorologist and outspoken critic of Al Gore-style global warming “science,” Joe Bastardi, tweeted a link to a Bloomberg News article about attempts to determine “why the rate of global warming has eased in the past 20 years while greenhouse-gas emissions have surged to a record”:

Global-Warming Slowdown Due to Pacific Winds, Study Shows bloom.bg/1o7gjHo via @BloombergNews
THIS IS ALL CLIMATE CYCLE THEORY!—
Joe Bastardi (@BigJoeBastardi) February 09, 2014

In other words, those “scientists” are trying to figure out why the planet isn’t cooperating with their scare mongering rhetoric.

Bastardi blasted the authors of the study for “discovering” what’s been known for decades and re-shaping the findings of others to fit their agenda:

The Oscillation in wind/ocean is a known and leads to the shifts back and forth in multi-decadol patterns.They are discovering what is known—
Joe Bastardi (@BigJoeBastardi) February 09, 2014

AGW people dont know climate cycle theories that many of us do.. and suddenly "discover" them and then own them as their own. Its nuts—
Joe Bastardi (@BigJoeBastardi) February 09, 2014

Its like they are redistributing ideas that someone else found, and making them their own. Literally stealing and repackaging for own agenda—
Joe Bastardi (@BigJoeBastardi) February 09, 2014

To all agw people for the kajillionth time read Dr Bill Grays paper on this which explains it all. His idea, from 70s
typhoon.atmos.colostate.edu/Includes/Docum…
Joe Bastardi (@BigJoeBastardi) February 09, 2014

The 1970′s was of course back when there was an ice age scare instead of global warming.

Update:

Bastardi adds this:

@TwitchyTeam I wil probably do my @PatriotPost this week on the repackaging of known climate cycle arguments as AGW driven. #desperation
Joe Bastardi (@BigJoeBastardi) February 10, 2014

***

Correction: The original version of this post indicated that Mr. Bastardi was a forecaster with Accuweather. Bastardi is a meteorologist with WeatherBell.com. Twitchy apologizes for the error.

28 posted on 02/10/2014 2:40:07 PM PST by Bratch
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To: CedarDave

One of these days the godless liberals are going to learn that God put the planet on autopilot. It’s self-regulating. Only arrogant pissanr liberals believe than man can put a dent in the world’s climate system. Short of total nuclear conflagration, that is. Which might put a temporary dent in it.


29 posted on 02/10/2014 2:40:12 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: SampleMan

Yes. However, in Alaska temperatures are getting ready to plunge again into real winter weather.


30 posted on 02/10/2014 3:50:12 PM PST by ArmyTeach ( Videteco eos prius (See 'em first) Sculpin 191)
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To: qam1

Per the graph in this article:

https://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/

Yes, sea ice is below average...but it appears to be outpacing 2009/2010, 2010/2011, and 2011/2012. So, it seems to be doing ok....and certainly within the 2 standard deviation band on the graph.

I’m sure you are right - no matter what the sea ice extent, the GW cultists will howl that it means we are doomed. But I would like to think that fewer people would buy into it - after paying huge utility bills to heat their houses this winter.


31 posted on 02/10/2014 3:51:58 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: ArmyTeach

Another scientist with TO MUCH GRANT MONEY on hand. They got nothing. They can’t prove nothing. That’s why they come up the BS articles and have to manipulate and cherry pick the data.


32 posted on 02/10/2014 3:53:37 PM PST by spawn44 (MOO)
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To: CedarDave

The pool of cold air in the northern hemisphere is like a balloon. Squeeze it someplace, it bulges another. That pattern changes from year to year. The amount of cold air changes over time based on a number of different cycles of varying length. And yes, it’s all based on the rhythms of the sun. Right now, it looks like we are headed for a colder cycle after having been through a warmer one.


33 posted on 02/10/2014 3:55:39 PM PST by henkster (Communists never negotiate.)
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To: CedarDave

The Penn and Teller “Bullshit” episode on Global Warming was great. They had the founder of the weather channel with a graph of global temperatures, CO2 and solar output. Global temperatures tracked solar activity closely, while CO2 only went up over time.


34 posted on 02/10/2014 4:06:49 PM PST by tbw2
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Back in the 70s, we had an acquaintance whose sister lived in Juneau.

It was consistently warmer there than in SW WI.


35 posted on 02/10/2014 4:20:28 PM PST by reformedliberal
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To: CedarDave
Lengthy article but the scientists' convolutions in trying to link recent frigid events to global warming misses one very important element in the analysis: The impact of the sun...Scientists have no idea how many and what variables control our climate, let alone what the relationship of those variables to the climate is, let alone how the variables interact with each other - eg how does rising CO2 affect cloud formation and dissipation and visa versa. Right now we have three models predicting anything from 1 inch to 20.5 inches of snow for Philly the day after next - I say it again - and yet they can tell us that we'll have a rise in the sea levels by exactly 3.9 inches and increased average temperature of 8.2 degrees F in exactly 50 years - preposterous.....
36 posted on 02/10/2014 4:20:36 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: CedarDave
Drought or unusual warmth is in sync with the effects that climate scientists expect from global warming.

Horse Hockey. They've only glommed onto these 'effects' after the warming they predicted didn't occur, nor did the drastic rise in sea levels, or increase in hurricanes hitting the US mainland.

37 posted on 02/10/2014 4:37:03 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: CedarDave
"...global warming's effect on the Arctic..."

Someone's not doing even grade school level research, to make a statement like that.

Even low infos who read the UK Daily Mail have seen satellite photos showing that Arctic sea ice has more than doubled since last winter.

38 posted on 02/10/2014 5:01:07 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: CedarDave

Folks, Its SETTLED SCIENCE!

GorBullWarming is the root cause of ALL YOUR MISERIES!

Even those minus zero temps!

BUT, you are just too stupid and uneducated to understand all those complex intricacies.

Just ask Algore! Visionary Extraordinaire!


39 posted on 02/10/2014 5:08:00 PM PST by ConradofMontferrat ( According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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