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Are Richard III's secrets about to be revealed?
The Telegraph ^ | 2-12-14 | Harry Mount

Posted on 02/12/2014 3:04:42 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic

What a treat for all medieval historians! More than 500 years after he was killed, the skeleton of Richard III is giving them much more reliable biographical information than they acquired over the previous half a millennium.

Henry VII, his successor, and opponent at Bosworth, encouraged his court historians to produce a warped picture of Richard.

Thank God, then, for the miraculous discovery of his body in a Leicester car park in 2012, and the undeniable truths it provided. Analysis of his skeleton showed the king didn’t have a hunchback exactly; he suffered from scoliosis of the spine, meaning his vertebrae were bent sideways and his right shoulder was higher than his left. His skull had a big hole at its base where, it’s thought, it was hacked away by a halberd; on the right side of his head, a blade had apparently thrust through the bone to a depth of more than four inches. Tudor soldiers were nothing if not thorough.

Richard’s DNA has already been analysed, confirming that the battered body in the car park was indeed his. But his genome will tell us even more from beyond the grave. “The original discovery only told us so much about Richard himself – he had scoliosis, he ate seafood, he died violently,” says the historian David Horspool, who is writing Richard III’s biography for Bloomsbury. “Anything that increases our knowledge would be interesting. The waxwork made of him guessed that he had black hair and very bushy eyebrows; perhaps the genome will tell us something different.”

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Other ancient bodies have had their genomes sequenced, including Otzi the Iceman, Neanderthal specimens, a Greenlandic Inuit and a hunter gatherer from Spain. But Richard III will be the first named, identifiable historical figure to undergo the process.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine; History
KEYWORDS: ancientautopsies; dna; genome; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; richard3; richardiii; royalty; throne; uk

1 posted on 02/12/2014 3:04:42 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic; SunkenCiv

Ping


2 posted on 02/12/2014 3:05:04 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...
Thanks afraidfortherepublic.

3 posted on 02/12/2014 3:22:10 AM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Richard had scoliosis which raised one shoulder slightly. He was approximately 5’’4” and was of a very slight “gracile” build. He did not have black hair, probably, but reddish brown and grey-blue eyes. We know this from several portraits painted of him which match amazingly with his reconstructed head. He was 32 years old when he died in battle.

He served as the lord of the north for almost 12 years, eventually bringing the Scots under control. He served only 2 years as king after his brother died and Parliament decreed that he should assume the throne rather than face another minority rule which had been ruinous in other years. To this day, we do not know what happened to the two young princes, one of whom would have been Edward V.

Richard’s parliament was conscientious in helping the peasants of England. He implemented (he did not “invent”) bail so that people’s lands could not be confiscated while awaiting trial.


4 posted on 02/12/2014 3:34:27 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic; SunkenCiv

I remember seeing something about this on TV. The effort to prove that the bones found in the carpark were indeed those of Richard III.


5 posted on 02/12/2014 3:41:56 AM PST by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: afraidfortherepublic

You mean we will know more about Richard III than President Obama?


6 posted on 02/12/2014 3:53:34 AM PST by bjc (Show me the data!)
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To: bjc

That just wouldn’t be right. We should sequence his genome right away. It could answer at least a couple questions.


7 posted on 02/12/2014 4:58:03 AM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Shedding light on the “Sun of York?”


8 posted on 02/12/2014 5:32:58 AM PST by IronJack
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To: SunkenCiv

Please add me to the GGG ping list.

Thanks


9 posted on 02/12/2014 5:56:45 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: sauropod

Netflix streaming currently has the documentary about the discovery of Richard’s skeleton.

https://www.netflix.com/WiMovie/Secrets:%20Richard%20III%20Revealed/70299212?trkid=438403


10 posted on 02/12/2014 6:06:15 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: SunkenCiv

By comparing Richard’s genes with one of his living relations, Michael Ibsen, scientists will also see what other segments of DNA have passed down the royal bloodline.

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I did not know such a person exists. That’s great.

Thanks for the ping.


11 posted on 02/12/2014 6:20:37 AM PST by Bigg Red (O LORD, our Lord, how majestic is your name in all the earth! Ps 8)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

China bought the aircraft carrier on the false pretext that it was going to be used as a floating hotel and casino.

The joke may end up being on them


12 posted on 02/12/2014 6:26:46 AM PST by rdcbn
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To: rdcbn

??


13 posted on 02/12/2014 6:45:16 AM PST by MS.BEHAVIN (Women who behave rarely make history)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Richard III Facial reconstruction

14 posted on 02/12/2014 6:59:33 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I just finished watching “The White Queen” which was a very fascinating story about all this


15 posted on 02/12/2014 7:15:31 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: onedoug

Ping


16 posted on 02/12/2014 8:09:03 AM PST by stylecouncilor
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To: stylecouncilor

A Richard more to Elizabeth’s liking. Shakespeare at times seemed to walk a tightrope with his references. But he knew where his bread was buttered too.


17 posted on 02/12/2014 8:39:41 AM PST by onedoug
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Are they waiting for Hump Day?


18 posted on 02/12/2014 12:08:44 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: miss marmelstein

“He was 32 years old when he died in battle. He served as the lord of the north for almost 12 years, eventually bringing the Scots under control.”

But American are deemed by their government as incapable of even providing their own healthcare, forcibly covered by mommy & daddy’s plans until age 26.


19 posted on 02/12/2014 12:36:01 PM PST by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I season one of The Black Adder a historical account of Richard III?


20 posted on 02/12/2014 1:02:56 PM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: ctdonath2

Richard was a general at 17 or 18. But he came from a family of inbred military and literary geniuses. (Inbreeding is not always a negative.) Their only problem was that due to inbreeding, they could not reproduce themselves successfully. When Richard had children before his royal marriage to his cousin, his natural children - born of commoners - grew up whole and healthy.


21 posted on 02/12/2014 1:15:18 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: yldstrk

Did you like this show? As a long-time Ricardian, I had trouble dealing with it. Did it help you understand King Richard or did it turn you off to him?


22 posted on 02/12/2014 1:22:12 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: miss marmelstein; SunkenCiv
Henry VII, his successor, and opponent at Bosworth, encouraged his court historians to produce a warped picture of Richard.

No pun intended, I'm sure.

23 posted on 02/12/2014 3:27:52 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: BenLurkin

24 posted on 02/12/2014 3:29:16 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: miss marmelstein

Yeah, I didn’t like him failing to do his duty to protect the Prince of Wales.................and hogging the throne


25 posted on 02/12/2014 3:56:36 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

As Protector, it was his job to secure the prince and bring him into London. Instead, his awful in-laws rushed the boy into sanctuary, cleared out the royal treasury, raised troops against Richard, took control of the navy (although Richard was head of the Admiralty) and generally acted in a highly suspicious manner.

No Protector had ever survived that position in the past. All had been murdered. Richard had a lot of think about in those weeks leading up to the coronation. I blame his brother, King Edward IV, for the foolish way he let his wife’s family take over the Kingdom in his final years.


26 posted on 02/12/2014 6:21:42 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: KosmicKitty

Welcome aboard!


27 posted on 02/14/2014 8:02:14 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: Bigg Red

It’s amazing what chances to survive.

Titulus Regius: The Title of the King
by Tracy Bryce
http://home.cogeco.ca/~richardiii/Titulus%20Regius.htm


28 posted on 02/14/2014 8:06:58 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: colorado tanker

None dared call it treason. :’)


29 posted on 02/14/2014 8:07:53 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: martin_fierro

He looks like a wax dummy or a marionette.


30 posted on 02/15/2014 4:45:29 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: SunkenCiv

Interesting read. How cool is it that the copy of the document stored in the tower escaped being destroyed?


31 posted on 02/15/2014 8:42:24 AM PST by Bigg Red (O LORD, our Lord, how majestic is your name in all the earth! Ps 8)
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