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Report on Richie Incognito-Jonathan Martin saga: History of ‘persistent bullying, harassment..
SI ^ | February 14, 2014 | Dour Farrar

Posted on 02/14/2014 10:57:58 AM PST by C19fan

The report by independent investigator Ted Wells on the state of the Miami Dolphins organization was released on Friday morning after months of research, and the results are clear — offensive guard Richie Incognito did lead a systemic campaign of bullying and ridicule of not only offensive tackle Jonathan Martin, but also at least one of Incognito’s and Martin’s teammates, and at least one team employee.

Wells, a partner in the law firm of Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP, was hired by NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell in early November to exhaustively investigate the Dolphins franchise from top to bottom and root out any organizational tumors that may exist. Wells may have run into more than he bargained for.

(Excerpt) Read more at nfl.si.com ...


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: bullying; dolphins; football; incognito; miami; nfl

1 posted on 02/14/2014 10:57:58 AM PST by C19fan
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To: C19fan
More fodder for the sport talk shows.

I cringe whenever something like this hits because it dominates sports talk for days. Sam's coming out blocked out almost everything else for the past week.

Gone are the days when I could tune in to hear a deconstruction of a really good game the night before.

2 posted on 02/14/2014 11:02:08 AM PST by AU72
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To: C19fan

.....two grown men who acted like super rich 10yr olds...one the Cartman bully...and the other the gullible “Butters”..
..and now the media..”rabble rabble rabble”....soon to be a South Park episode..


3 posted on 02/14/2014 11:14:12 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: C19fan

Sohhhh?

I worked plenty of places people attempted to pick one me and mostly ones were we made fun of each other. Really teased each other.

Fking retartet bay-buh.

Roll with it yuh susie boy...oops, meant sissie boy.

Whatever is apt.

You need a box uh tissues and a blankey.

Po’ lil baybee


4 posted on 02/14/2014 11:19:42 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: C19fan

Somehow it is difficult imagining a 300 lb linebacker being the victim of “bullying”.

perhaps it’s just me.


5 posted on 02/14/2014 11:28:13 AM PST by left that other site
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To: Vendome

What should have the NFL alarmed is that this behavior goes on in the locker rooms of all of the NFL teams. The Miami Dolphins were not unique in this regard.

A successful multi-million dollar lawsuit by Martin could deliver a death blow to the NFL as it would be followed by lawsuits against the other 31 NFL teams.

Mandatory sensitivity training is right around the corner which soon spreads to all sectors of America as the administration will no doubt mandate training for all Americans who are employed.


6 posted on 02/14/2014 11:36:10 AM PST by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: C19fan

You know what I think NFL going get wuss by Network try make more PC that they can’t do this anymore

That bottom line especially if NBC sports tell them if you want Sunday night football you been make NFL locker room be more PC

Everybody know NBC sports run by metrosexuals


7 posted on 02/14/2014 11:39:30 AM PST by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: C19fan
I can tell you that in South Florida, home of the Dolphins, the public opinion is firmly against Jonathan Martin and in support of Incognito.

I'm going to presume that the evidence of deep mental problems which Martin was experiencing will be scrubbed from the report.

The fact is, Martin gave as good as he got, they were actually good friends, and Incognito should have a future in the league, because he can play, and JM totally handled things the wrong way.

So the NFL's whitewash (if that's what it is) will produce a large collective yawn here in the Miami area.

8 posted on 02/14/2014 11:45:34 AM PST by sargon (I don't like the sound of these here Boncentration Bamps!)
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To: Delta Dawn

Seriously?

Teasing is a rite of manhood and de rigeur for having or arguing stooped

I don’t see this as a problem.

But, I don’t rob anyone of their dignity or pride...unless I’ve had about enough of their schtick.


9 posted on 02/14/2014 11:48:29 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: C19fan

We luv thugs. Free O.J. Simpson!


10 posted on 02/14/2014 11:51:28 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: sargon
I can tell you that in South Florida, home of the Dolphins, the public opinion is firmly against Jonathan Martin and in support of Incognito.

Which is why the fans don't deserve a good team. Incognito has a long history of character issues, and head coach Philbin wanted him off the team before the season began.

11 posted on 02/14/2014 11:52:28 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: C19fan

Wait until that homo player shows up...any comments perceived to be offensive will be blown way more out of proportion than this.


12 posted on 02/14/2014 11:54:15 AM PST by Ironfocus
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To: C19fan
The Oakland Raiders will get a good offensive guard/tackle.

So let it be written, so let it be done.

5.56mm

13 posted on 02/14/2014 11:55:54 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Moonman62
Which is why the fans don't deserve a good team. Incognito has a long history of character issues, and head coach Philbin wanted him off the team before the season began.

Nonsense. The Dolphins will be fine. The team and the public are totally against the way JM handled things (meaning, he didn't handle things) and, as has been demonstrated by the evidence, JM gave every bit as good as he got from RI.

It's pretty amazing to see the contrast between the national perception and the local perception.

The National Fairy League is trying to go PC. Nothing happened in the Dolphins locker room that doesn't happen in every NFL locker room, it's just that no other NFL team was foolish enough to pick Jonathan Martin, who has psychological issues going WAY back.

So take your Dolphin-bashing elsewhere...

14 posted on 02/14/2014 12:04:03 PM PST by sargon (I don't like the sound of these here Boncentration Bamps!)
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To: C19fan

“Report on Richie Incognito-Jonathan Martin saga: History of ‘persistent bullying, harassment..”

The wussification of the NFL!


15 posted on 02/14/2014 12:14:41 PM PST by kenmcg
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To: Moonman62
RE: “Head coach Philbin wanted Incognito off the team before the season began.”

You sure about that, Moonman?

The Dolphins have a 6 player “Leadership Council” instead of team captains.

Philbin chose Incognito for the “Council” in September, before the first 2013 game.

Also, Dolphin players love Incognito, and virtually all the players on the team thought Martin and Incognito were friends.

Anyway - where do I sign up to get bullied?

Martin got a $2 million signing bonus, plus almost $1 million more in total salary for two seasons.

He was not performing well and was not developing as expected, and, before he walked out, he was understandably fearful that he might be cut in 2014 or forced to accept a pay cut.

By the way - Martin's mother is a successful trial attorney, and she and her law firm were advising Martin from the first day he walked out.

16 posted on 02/14/2014 12:19:09 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: C19fan

Look at the silver lining. While Martin, a Stanford graduate, legit scholar, not like most NFL players thanks to reparations and Affirmative Action, will get a corporate job and disappear somewhere among the evil 1%, you will be able to meet and greet the lovable thug, I mean the other guy, while he works an honest job as a bouncer at some striptease club in Vegas.


17 posted on 02/14/2014 12:32:12 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: zeestephen
He was not performing well and was not developing as expected, and, before he walked out, he was understandably fearful that he might be cut in 2014 or forced to accept a pay cut.

Should also point out that he lost his job at left tackle after Miami signed an aging veteran to replace him at that position. In my opinion, they gave up way too much to sign McKinnie since he will not be the future LT for the team. And, if the right tackle wasn't terrible also, Martin wouldn't have gotten much playing time at all. Coincidentally, all this crap about being bullied started soon after Martin lost his job to McKinnie.
18 posted on 02/14/2014 12:38:41 PM PST by nonamer
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To: Doogle

Great summary.


19 posted on 02/14/2014 12:40:21 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: sargon

The Dolphins have been a dysfunctional organization for years. It is unnecessary to bash them.


20 posted on 02/14/2014 12:41:45 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: AU72

The Feds are coming down on the NFL, using the leverage of their antitrust exemption, in order to use the NFL to advance their social agenda.

That’s why the NFL has gone so PC in recent years.


21 posted on 02/14/2014 12:42:37 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: zeestephen

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24310337/report-joe-philbin-wanted-to-cut-richie-incognito-in-2012


22 posted on 02/14/2014 12:43:17 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62
The Dolphins have been a dysfunctional organization for years. It is unnecessary to bash them.

Two words: Perfect Season.

23 posted on 02/14/2014 2:48:06 PM PST by sargon (I don't like the sound of these here Boncentration Bamps!)
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To: sargon

Four words: over forty years ago.


24 posted on 02/14/2014 3:01:21 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62
Four words: over forty years ago.

And when was the last perfect season by your favorite NFL team? Never.

I'll take that any day of the week, thanks.

Perfect season. Don Shula.

Just wait til next year.

25 posted on 02/14/2014 3:04:51 PM PST by sargon (I don't like the sound of these here Boncentration Bamps!)
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To: Moonman62
OK, thanks for the link.

The 2012 female harassment story, and Philbin’s response, are a bit more complex than that.

I read the Sun-Sentinel Dolphin section every day.

Stephen Ross, the team owner, is the only person who can overrule Philbin on a decision like that.

If Philbin really wanted to cut Incognito in 2012, Ross has never made a public statement about it that I know about.

And Jeff Ireland, the GM at the time, as far as I know has never made a public statement about that.

I know the Offensive Line coach and the Offensive Coordinator both said Philbin had not discussed that with them.

Most Important - Incognito started 31 of 32 games for the Dolphins in 2010-2011, at both OG positions and Center, and he made the Pro Bowl in 2012.

So, I think Philbin may have had an immediate emotional reaction to the 2012 incident, but I doubt that emotion lasted very long.

26 posted on 02/14/2014 3:19:33 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: sargon

It was a good thing that Shula inherited Csonka. He also inherited Griese, but Shula was excellent at getting the best out of a QB. If the Dolphins were still like that I wouldn’t say that they are currently dysfunctional and have been for years. As it is, my original statement stands.


27 posted on 02/14/2014 3:22:10 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62
RE: “He also inherited Griese.”

Shula almost inherited Steve Spurrier, which might have changed NFL history a little bit.

As I recall, Shula was instrumental in bringing player personnel director Bobby Beathard to Miami in 1972.

Beathard had some truly amazing Drafts over his career.

28 posted on 02/14/2014 4:11:32 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

Beathard was OK, but Shula came into a great organization that was willing to do what it took to win. In addition to Griese and Csonka, the Dolphins had Larry Little, Nick Buoniconti, and Paul Warfield. That’s five future hall of famers he had to work with.

Yes, Spurrier would have done a lot better in Miami than San Francisco.


29 posted on 02/16/2014 8:52:14 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: left that other site
It's all relative. I'm only of medium built but I could walk into a male figure-skating locker room and instantly establish myself as the alpha male. For the same reasons, a mild-mannered 300-lb linebacker can easily get intimidated in an NFL locker room - or a high security prison rec room (it can be argued that there is little difference between the two).

It is unfortunate that a hostile bullying environments is allowed to exist on a professional football squad. Only simple-minded insecure people engage in bullying. It should be stamped out and not tolerated by mature adults.

30 posted on 02/16/2014 9:15:16 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76

I’m only of medium built but I could walk into a male figure-skating locker room and instantly establish myself as the alpha male.

...watch out though if the locker next to yours is Johnny Weir’s...


31 posted on 02/16/2014 9:50:03 AM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: Moonman62
I was joking about Spurrier.

As a pro, he threw 40 TD’s and 60 INT’s.

But, I'm a life long UFlorida fan, so all of us still love the guy as a college player and college coach.

I looked up Beathard in Wiki.

Yikes - say goodbye to my memory!

I thought he was with the Dolphins for years and drafted all the really excellent players Miami had in the later 70’s and early 80’s.

Nope - just there in ‘72-'73.

He drafted about 34 players (17 Rounds in those years!).

Only Don Strock (5th Round) had a measurable impact on the team.

And, in spite of some great games, Strock was just too inconsistent to be a top tier NFL QB.

32 posted on 02/16/2014 11:11:57 AM PST by zeestephen
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