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Just how much water is in all of this snow on the ground?
Mlive.com ^ | February 14, 2014 | Mark Torregrossa

Posted on 02/14/2014 5:25:50 PM PST by cripplecreek

There is a lot of snow on the ground in Michigan. When the snow melts, just how much water is in all of the snow on the ground now?

The top graphic shows the "snow water equivalent" for the Lower Peninsula. This means the amount of liquid if the snow in a tube was all melted at once.



All of the Lower Peninsula has at least one inch of liquid in the snow. Most of the Lower Peninsula has two to six inches of liquid in the form of snow. The heaviest snowfall areas in northwest Lower Michigan have between six and ten inches of water in the snow that is currently on the ground. According to the National Weather Service in Grand Rapids, here is how much water is in the snow: Grand Rapids - 5.2" / Detroit - 3.5" / Ann Arbor - 3.5" / Lansing - 2.8" / Muskegon - 2.8" / Flint - 2.7" / Saginaw - 2.0" / Bay City - 2.0" / Jackson - 1.9"

There is even more water in the snow on the ground in the Upper Peninsula. The graphic of the Upper Peninsula water equivalent of snow shows a lot of water in the snow on the ground. All of the Upper Peninsula has at least four to six inches of water in the snow on the ground. About half of the U.P. has over six inches of water in the snow, and the Lake Superior shoreline and Keewanaw Peninsula has between 10 and 20 inches of water in the snow on the ground.



Obviously if this snow all melts at once, there will be a high risk of flooding in Michigan. Here is what the National Weather Service in Grand Rapids says about the flooding risk. A large warm-up is still expected next week. Wednesday, Thursday, and Saturday could have temperatures in the 40s in a large part of Lower Michigan. Next Saturday's warmth could come with rainfall over one inch in parts of Lower Michigan.


I'm also working to figure out how much the snow melt will affect the Great Lakes Levels. I think it is safe to say right now that the melting snow will help raise the lakes more. Currently Lake Michigan and Lake Huron are 12 inches higher than this time last year, but still 13 inches below the long term average.


TOPICS: Agriculture; Gardening; Outdoors; Weather
KEYWORDS: michigan; weather
Looks like its gonna be one soggy spring in Michigan.
1 posted on 02/14/2014 5:25:50 PM PST by cripplecreek
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To: Springman; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; madison10; ...
Hope everybody knows how to swim cause its gonna get pretty wet in coming weeks.

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2 posted on 02/14/2014 5:28:25 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

A freak warm spell might spell flooding.


3 posted on 02/14/2014 5:30:36 PM PST by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: umgud

Fortunately Michigan is soggy in dry years so most of us don’t live in terribly flood prone areas. It seems to be the Michigan cities that experience real flooding.

Remember they were taking pictures of fish in Grand rapids windowsills last spring.


4 posted on 02/14/2014 5:34:47 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Because of global warming it’s going to be a dry soggy.


5 posted on 02/14/2014 5:36:09 PM PST by IMR 4350
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To: cripplecreek

icy piers off Saint Joseph, Mich


6 posted on 02/14/2014 5:36:32 PM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: JoeProBono
Last spring in Grand rapids


7 posted on 02/14/2014 5:40:10 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Looks like a cold week after a very few warm days. Hopefully that will lead to this melting gradually.


8 posted on 02/14/2014 5:41:03 PM PST by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: John W

The great lakes should come up considerably. Very wet last year, lots of snow this winter and evaporation held to a minimum by the ice cover.


9 posted on 02/14/2014 5:45:25 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

I think that 6 inches of fluffy snow will melt down into 1 inch of water. If the snow is packed or dense, the conversion is obviously different.


10 posted on 02/14/2014 6:04:06 PM PST by toothfairy86
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To: toothfairy86

The stuff we got today in Indiana was real dry. The meteorology guys said the ratio was between 20:1 and 25:1.


11 posted on 02/14/2014 6:06:17 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: cripplecreek


12 posted on 02/14/2014 6:09:25 PM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: cripplecreek
I'm also working to figure out how much the snow melt will affect the Great Lakes Levels. I think it is safe to say right now that the melting snow will help raise the lakes more.

The TV weather guy said that the ice cover helps keep water in the lake by preventing evaporation.

13 posted on 02/14/2014 6:11:33 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: dr_lew

Yeah. Fortunately it has shut off most of the lake effect snow.


14 posted on 02/14/2014 6:14:45 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Come on folks you can not have it both ways some claim the snow is dryer this season is what I was told is why it won’t melt.

Climate Engineering Weather Warfare, and the Collapse of Civilization
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yZhh2leRJA

We have snow mixed with alumina oxide

IS THIS SNOW? - YouTube (took place in Michigan)
It evaporates more than it melts.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tEza2wB20c

Snow won’t melt?
2- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKNOsARlMuo


15 posted on 02/14/2014 6:34:03 PM PST by restornu
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To: restornu
Come on folks you can not have it both ways some claim the snow is dryer this season is what I was told is why it won’t melt.

That's the problem with nutcase conspiracy theories. Nobody here said anything about the snow being dry or not melting.
16 posted on 02/14/2014 6:37:42 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Interesting. Put away the snow thrower, get out the wet-vacs and fill the sandbags ALERT! (and don’t get swept away by rushing water…man the life-jackets)


17 posted on 02/14/2014 6:48:17 PM PST by PGalt
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To: PGalt

When I was a kid living near Munith we took a boat to catch our bus for a week or so every spring due to the water over the road.


18 posted on 02/14/2014 6:51:31 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: umgud

If you get a good rain....watch out!


19 posted on 02/14/2014 6:58:00 PM PST by cornfedcowboy
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To: cripplecreek

I was told a lot of things about this snow this season normal folks all over the US are puzzled by this snow.

I am tired of the best way to shut down conversation is to marginalize a topic, we have politicians afraid of their own shadows, good people wont run because they have flaws in their pass, all the while we lose yards of ground at a time, because we been tin foiled to death by the opposition.

We should be curious and check out every thing.

We are breathing this stuff our children are playing in it and breathing this stuff.

This man makes a lot of sense and have documents

Climate Engineering Weather Warfare, and the Collapse of Civilization http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yZhh2leRJA

LOOK UP - New, Full Documentary - Geo-Engineering http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymF6YkVJ-RY


20 posted on 02/14/2014 6:58:32 PM PST by restornu
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To: cripplecreek

10-12 inches of snow = 1 inch of water.


21 posted on 02/14/2014 7:02:29 PM PST by Husker24
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To: cripplecreek

Ten years ago the winter was single-digits cold for weeks, seemed like months, and every bit of the snowfall (which was otherwise unexceptional) stuck around, it couldn’t melt. By the time the last of the ploughed snowpiles melted, we were into May. Spring was otherwise under way, the blossoming trees in the downtown area had bloomed and then leafed out, birds were chirping, etc etc, and there was still this dirty pile of snow, ice really, just enough in the shade that it didn’t get much sunligt.


22 posted on 02/14/2014 7:07:53 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: SunkenCiv

I can see the big piles sticking around this spring unless there’s a lot of rain.


23 posted on 02/14/2014 7:14:23 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
That's the problem with nutcase conspiracy theories. Nobody here said anything about the snow being dry or not melting.

****

Next Thursday we are to be in the 40 where we will be able to get rid of some of this stuff.

You know they say Lake Superior is frozen over when that melt we should have high water levels.

The Great Lakes are almost completely frozen over

The full moon tonight is hazy

Last night it was a clear sky deep blue and a full moon, 1/2 hour later it was hazy and the sky was all marbleized

We have to make up our minds, have a talk with ourselves the worst scenario if we spoke out, I pray people will gain the courage one way or another we are going down, so if enough of us become bold with the Lord's help we will over come!

Geo Engineering is the scientific name of this we need to educate ourselves in this stuff enough to know what is going on. Than when we speak out, when one speaks out they can not be label kook if they talk their talk, let them know this is not right!

24 posted on 02/14/2014 7:26:48 PM PST by restornu
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To: restornu

I’m 50 years old and have spent most of my life working and playing outside. Nothing has changed.


25 posted on 02/14/2014 7:34:13 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

If I may say so, the inquirer did NOT ask about the various locations, etc. The question was: How much water is in this snow we’ve been getting?
I’ve been told that an APPROXIMATE guideline is that 10 inches of snow equals an inch of water. That’s probably close enough for most folks.


26 posted on 02/14/2014 7:38:57 PM PST by Tucker39 ("Having their conscience seared with a hot iron.")
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To: cripplecreek

Snow=inches water?


27 posted on 02/14/2014 7:41:04 PM PST by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM/BHO FREE AMERICA.)
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To: Tucker39

Yeah, 10 inches of snow to one inch of water is probably good enough and there’s a crapload of snow out there.


28 posted on 02/14/2014 7:43:55 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: restornu

Actually, snow (frozen water) does not evaporate to the vapor state but sublimes. Sublimation bypasses liquid and goes straight to vapor. Liquid water evaporates to the vapor.


29 posted on 02/14/2014 9:57:33 PM PST by Hootowl99
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To: Hootowl99
Actually, snow (frozen water) does not evaporate to the vapor state but sublimes. Sublimation bypasses liquid and goes straight to vapor. Liquid water evaporates to the vapor.

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well its been a week and my snow has not evaporated! it is 4 to 5 inches deep on my roof of the house and the garage, I had white specks on my car, it was not rock salt it was reside from the snow only it was hard and crusty I got the car washed today

How Much does Snow Evaporate?

Chemtrails And Aluminum Harm Heart, Lungs And Plants

Listen to E Edward Griffin author "Creature from Jekyll Island" This will explain why our government now has reach their "Nirvana" for them anyways, "We The People" are not in their equation. Our usefulness is no longer needed.

G. Edward Griffin: The Collectivist Conspiracy (Full Length)

30 posted on 02/14/2014 10:48:15 PM PST by restornu
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To: Hootowl99; cripplecreek
Sorry the other video had about 17 mins lob off ( 67 mins vs 84 mins). Anyone want to know the truth there is no republican or Democrats party they are both a hoax has been now for over a hundred years.

Take off the mask they are corporate capitalist not capitalist like mom and pop stores when man gets to big for his own good, he than want power to rule the world, it is a natural succession to the way things work.

Listen to E Edward Griffin author "Creature from Jekyll Island" This will explain why our government now has reach their "Nirvana" for them anyways, "We The People" are not in their equation. Our usefulness is no longer needed.

G. Edward Griffin: The Collectivist Conspiracy (Full Length)

31 posted on 02/15/2014 12:37:55 AM PST by restornu
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To: All

Wakeup We can’t control our toilets, light bulbs, nor our planet http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/


32 posted on 02/15/2014 12:59:55 AM PST by restornu (Wakeup We cant control our toilets, light bulbs, nor our planet http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/)
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To: Hootowl99; cripplecreek
This is the film E Edward Griffin was talking about...

What in the World Are They Spraying? (Full Length)

33 posted on 02/15/2014 1:39:56 AM PST by restornu (Wakeup We cant control our toilets, light bulbs, nor our planet http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/)
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To: cripplecreek

70 yo. Ditto.


34 posted on 02/15/2014 2:18:41 AM PST by metesky (Brethren, leave us go amongst them! - Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond, The Searchers)
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To: cripplecreek
I think they're overstating the water estimate. Most of the snow we've had this year has been in extreme temps, below 20 degrees. The colder it is, the more oxygen and less moisture there is in the snow.

For example, the best powder skiing out west occurs in temps around 17 degrees, that's when the snow is the lightest and fluffiest........

If you were to compare six inches of fresh power at 17 degrees to 6 inches of fresh snow at say 29 degrees, there would be more water at 29 degrees and the snow would be much heavier......

35 posted on 02/15/2014 4:15:50 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Was Occam's razor made by Gillette?)
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To: metesky

One of the things I’ve observed over the years is that the conspiracy theorists are some of the most unobservant people I’ve ever seen.

I’ve got a cousin who spends all his time with this chemtrails and magic snow crap. He says everyone else is just unobservant but hasn’t been outside in weeks.


36 posted on 02/15/2014 4:21:25 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: PGalt
don’t get swept away by rushing water…man the life-jackets
37 posted on 02/15/2014 4:23:38 AM PST by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....' Nuff said!)
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To: All

Glenn Beck & G. Edward Griffin Talk About The FED
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmW3ytfhZ9M


38 posted on 02/15/2014 5:56:10 AM PST by restornu (Wakeup We cant control our toilets, light bulbs, nor our planet http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/)
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To: metesky; cripplecreek

81 years old.

Double ditto.

Imagine spending your life like that.


40 posted on 02/15/2014 7:16:21 AM PST by Mears
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To: Mears

You’re old enough that you might actually remember a time where there were few jet contrails in the sky. I’ve been seeing them for my whole life and they’ve always looked pretty much the same.

As a photographer, noticing is what I do.


41 posted on 02/15/2014 7:34:45 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

“You’re old enough that you might actually remember a time where there were few jet contrails in the sky.


I remember a time when there were NO jet contrails but live west of Boston and see them all the time now.

My 1st flight in the mid fifties,from Boston to Idlewild to OKC, was in a 4 engine prop plane. We were treated like royalty on that plane. Sigh-—those days are gone forever.

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43 posted on 02/15/2014 10:27:17 AM PST by Mears
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To: Mears

My granddad told me about seeing the first contrails while he was in Europe during WWII. They weren’t jets yet but they still left contrails in that cold air.

A neighbor who served in Afghanistan has some pictures of the contrails over that country. They really scribbled up the sky there.


44 posted on 02/15/2014 10:33:54 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Mears; cripplecreek
81 years old.

Double ditto.

Imagine spending your life like that.

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In all due respect ignore this but I have facts from many own mouths

Yes imagine folks were screaming about the NWO or Globalism just a few years ago, NWO was also part of the tin foil club too, until it slap everyone in their face...

WE KNOW THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS GLOBAL WARMING, ACCEPT IN THE NAME OF GEO ENGINEERING TO CONTROL WHAT US?!

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Uploaded on Jul 15, 2009
John Holdren is interviewed about his views on geo-engineering. He says that if we get desperate, we may have to use it.

But one should be aware that governments do things without telling the population all the time.

They are already using geo-engineering and they are using the threat of global warming in an attempt to unify humanity into submission of their will to reduce the population of the planet. David Rockefeller's Agenda - Population Control

ROCKEFELLER ILLUMINATI NWO DICTATORSHIP

DIALECTICS, ROCKEFELLERS, AND POPULATION CONTROL

Sen Rockefeller: Let's Depopulate!!! Kill the Elders and Poison the

Obama Depopulation Policy Exposed! Red Alert!!!!!!

Government ADMITS secretly SPRAYING POISON on us!!! Also

BREAKING CHEMTRAIL SCIENTIST MURDERED AFTER GOING

The radical science of geo-engineering: Maybe it's not so crazy

The Polar Vortex Explained in 2 Minutes> Obama people

45 posted on 02/15/2014 10:38:10 AM PST by restornu (Wakeup We cant control our toilets, light bulbs, nor our planet http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/)
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To: cripplecreek

That was unkind of you I expect that but the facts won’t changed nor can one run away and hide from unpleasant truth!

I show many of this out of the mouths of those who mean harm!

BYE


47 posted on 02/15/2014 11:06:58 AM PST by restornu (Wakeup We cant control our toilets, light bulbs, nor our planet http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/)
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To: cripplecreek; Mears
Not a lot of contrails in my ute, but I'm thinking that both Mears and I remember when the sound barrier was regularly broken over the east coast.

Ka-boom!

48 posted on 02/16/2014 2:09:16 AM PST by metesky (Brethren, leave us go amongst them! - Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond, The Searchers)
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