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Have Sweden’s permissive parents given birth to a generation of monsters?
Daily Telegraph (UK) ^ | 7:13PM GMT 13 Feb 2014 | Judith Woods

Posted on 02/14/2014 9:04:36 PM PST by Olog-hai

… Sweden was the first country on the planet to introduce a ban on physical punishment in 1979. Thereafter, the view was taken that hierarchy within families ought to be jettisoned in favor of treating children like adults. But while the egalitarian values of social democracy might work for the economy, they have been a disaster on the domestic front. […]

… (S)omething is rotten in the state of Sweden. (Psychiatrist David) Eberhard points to growing social problems in school, where Swedish pupils routinely refuse to follow teachers’ instructions, and later on in what he views as their unfulfilled young adulthood. […]

“Young people in Sweden tend to be very disappointed in life, especially in their twenties,” observes Eberhard. “While there is a falling rate of suicides, there is a huge rise in suicide attempts, especially among girls aged 15 to 25.” …

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Society
KEYWORDS: corporalpunishment; sweden

1 posted on 02/14/2014 9:04:37 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Spare the rod and spoil the child. Proverbs 13:24


2 posted on 02/14/2014 9:06:56 PM PST by doc1019
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To: Olog-hai

I doubt this is no.1 when it comes to causes of feral youth. How about the routine sexual abuse by the Swedish authorities through ‘dress like a girl days’ at schools, and the allowance of adoption by pedophiles? These things are also becoming legal in already feral Britain.

Western Europe is a cesspool. Let’s pray for a violent revolution.


3 posted on 02/14/2014 9:11:28 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Olog-hai
Everybody screamed when I kissed the teacher
And they must have thought they dreamed when I kissed the teacher
My whole class went wild
And I held my breath the world stood still but then he just smiled
Nearly petrified 'cus he was taken by surprise when I kissed the teacher
Couldn't quite believe his eyes when I kissed the teacher
Leaning over me
He was trying to explain the laws of geome-treeee
And I couldn't help it, I just had to kiss the teacher.

- Swedish pop group ABBA (1975)

4 posted on 02/14/2014 9:16:04 PM PST by OrangeHoof (2001-2008: "Dissent Is Patriotism!" 2009-2016: "Dissent Is Racism!")
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To: Olog-hai

So the bad news is that they want to kill themselves, but the good news is that they are too incompetent to accomplish that.

Yay, progressivism.


5 posted on 02/14/2014 9:17:33 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Olog-hai

Decadence follows a lack of personal discipline and raising children in a “judgement free” and valueless manner. Young people need a template. If they “rebel” or change as adults they at least have reference points. These Swedish kids as predicted have become rudderless narcissists with endless demands that can never be fulfilled.Sweden is in the post Christian neopagan era. Its native birthrate will continue to decline. It will become the Brazil of the North.


6 posted on 02/14/2014 9:21:03 PM PST by allendale
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To: Olog-hai

Decadence follows a lack of personal discipline and raising children in a “judgement free” and valueless manner. Young people need a template. If they “rebel” or change as adults they at least have reference points. These Swedish kids as predicted have become rudderless narcissists with endless demands that can never be fulfilled.Sweden is in the post Christian neopagan era. Its native birthrate will continue to decline. It will become the Brazil of the North.


7 posted on 02/14/2014 9:21:47 PM PST by allendale
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To: doc1019

That passage has nothing to do with corporeal punishment.


8 posted on 02/14/2014 9:29:06 PM PST by stormer
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To: Olog-hai

This should be an interesting combination with a huge influx of feral Muslim yutes invading Sweden.


9 posted on 02/14/2014 9:31:48 PM PST by Organic Panic
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To: stormer

Has a lot to do with discipling your offspring.


10 posted on 02/14/2014 9:38:56 PM PST by doc1019
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To: Olog-hai

They need to become monsters to defeat the Muslims!


11 posted on 02/14/2014 10:55:50 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Olog-hai
But while the egalitarian values of social democracy might work for the economy

Oh, really?
12 posted on 02/14/2014 11:28:31 PM PST by 98ZJ USMC
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To: steve86

Self-ping for tomorrow


13 posted on 02/14/2014 11:42:34 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: Olog-hai

Could it be due to feral muslim males raping their way through the Swedish population? Nah, that would be RACIST.


14 posted on 02/15/2014 12:16:40 AM PST by Amberdawn
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To: doc1019

Discipline means to teach, hence, disciple - and the rod referenced is a shepherd’s crook, a device used to guide, not punish. No good shepherd would strike that which he is trying to guide and teach, especially with the tool that is the symbol of love and protection.


15 posted on 02/15/2014 3:43:37 AM PST by stormer
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To: stormer; doc1019

Oh stop the crap..and read Proverbs 23:12-14 if you need further illumination as to what Solomon says about “the rod”.

Proverbs 23:…12Apply your heart to discipline And your ears to words of knowledge. 13Do not hold back discipline from the child, Although you strike him with the rod, he will not die. 14You shall strike him with the rod And rescue his soul from Sheol.…


16 posted on 02/15/2014 4:45:17 AM PST by mdmathis6 (American Christians can help America best by remembering that we are Heaven's citizens first!)
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To: allendale

Your post does need repeating. :) Love the “post Christian neopagan era.” I’ll have to remember that for my psych classes.


17 posted on 02/15/2014 5:33:20 AM PST by huldah1776
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To: Olog-hai

A reply from source:

Sweden is heading towards a big crisis. Feminist extremists are in power, all men are evil and women all saints. At the same time there are already these African/Muslim tribal enclaves with archaic attitudes demanding free money to flow forever. Sweden could be a failed state within 10 years.

>I’ve lived in Sweden & worked there as a dentist.
Jack is absolutely right.


18 posted on 02/15/2014 5:42:11 AM PST by huldah1776
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Yep, in a culture prohibiting children as young as four to use terms ‘she’ or ‘he’ and demanding kids to report if their parent aren’t politically correct at home?

Northern Europe is dead. Remember a jiraffe they ‘ve killed recently? They are doing same to people on a daily basis.
Remember a story of ‘ugly’ manly Dutch girl forced to live in garage by her parents not to disgrace them? Doctors recommended her a sex change despite the fact she wasn’t transgendered. As soon as it turned the way you can expect, they have prescribed euthanasia because no other means could help her depression. You simply couldn’t make this crap up.


19 posted on 02/15/2014 8:18:18 AM PST by cunning_fish
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Some amazing comments at the source.


20 posted on 02/15/2014 10:47:55 AM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: steve86
Comment at the source:

That politically correct Alice in wonder land that is modern day Sweden is also rapidly tumbling down the OECD educational rankings. This is happening in a country that once had one of the highest per capita in the world, one of the best educated workforce in the world, one of the lowest crime rates, and a kaleidoscope of internationally recognized brands.

Today it is by far the most extreme of countries when it comes to mass immigration and multiculturalism. In terms of ideological indoctrination, suppression of dissent and media censorship Sweden is one of the most totalitarian countries in the entire world. Its establishment is obsessed with the irrational ideal of equality and are frantically tearing their nations social fabric to pieces so that it can be reborn the egalitarian utopia which eluded both the Bolsheviks in Russia and the Kamera rouge in Cambodia. Here a strange parallel that can be drawn with the Mayan kingdom were its fanatical leaders filled their temple forecourts with the severed heads of thousands, all sacrificed in the name of an irrational ideology.

It will be interesting to see were Sweden is at in another 10 years time. Will it even be recognizable?


21 posted on 02/15/2014 1:52:34 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: steve86

I wish I could remember which FReeper it was who said his brother or BIL was moving to Sweden, supposedly because something was better there (must like classic Swedish blondes).


22 posted on 02/15/2014 2:07:28 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: Olog-hai
“While there is a falling rate of suicides, there is a huge rise in suicide attempts," Sadly, that sentence struck me. They want to kill themselves but they are too incompetent now to do so.
23 posted on 02/15/2014 2:14:54 PM PST by BRL
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To: Organic Panic

close. I suspect if you look at exacly who constitutes the feral youth... Corporal punishent might not be the issue at all.

Rather the opposite.


24 posted on 02/22/2014 4:45:56 AM PST by Eurotwit
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Think harder who the “monsters” actually are in this report?

think....


25 posted on 02/22/2014 4:46:57 AM PST by Eurotwit
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To: Eurotwit
Who has given all of the kids of Sweden everything they can ask for? Not Jesus. It's Apple and Google and ...

Scientific atheism is decimating the religious beliefs of the youth of the western world.

Meanwhile the anti-intellectual religion of Islam remains strong. Yes they use the technology, but in a sneering way: "These are the technological toys we will use to destroy the west."

So we are breeding an army of emotionless consuming drones. The Islamists will try to take their toys away. They will be upset. That will mean war.

If western youth is truly monstrous they may triumph over the Muslims. If not, then the Muslims will triumph.

Who's to blame? Who are the real monsters? What average mom or dad can argue against the wonders of science? What person in the history of mankind has successfully convinced everyone not to engage in illicit sex, drug use, etc? Even some of those we consider the "greats" of conservatism and/or Christianity engaged in illicit sex, drug use, etc.

I really think it's possible that we are at the beginning of a very long period (hundreds of years perhaps) of declining faith. Certainly among Christians, maybe as well among Hindus, Jews, and even Muslims if they get too caught up in our consumer culture as well.

Yes there will be small thriving communities of the faithful (e.g the Amish), but Christianity will be banished from the general discussion and eliminated as a source for how nations and states are governed.

26 posted on 02/22/2014 9:05:41 AM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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