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As medals slip away, Americans are getting steamed at Sochi Games
Washington Post ^ | 02/15/2013 | By Sally Jenkins

Posted on 02/15/2014 10:54:36 AM PST by SeekAndFind

The snow in the Caucasus Mountains is dissolving, the white patches shrinking, and many athletes on Team USA seem to be melting down with them. Some Americans are drained, and others are dragging. When they ski or they skate, they think they went fast, but then they look up at the clock and are stunned to find they were a second slow, and finish eighth. Team USA’s self-esteem is leaking away, and it’s triggering anxious super-secret coaching meetings and conspiracy theories. What’s in the Russian water table — and why are those Swiss timers so suspiciously slow?

It must be a plot — some foreign machination, causing this massive slippage. Four years ago in Vancouver, the Americans won more medals than anyone, with 37, but halfway through Sochi, the 13 medals they have won somehow don’t feel quite as memorable as the ones they let get away. They can’t win so much as a foiled chocolate in speedskating, where they’ve yet to finish any better than seventh. U.S. speedskating coach Ryan Shimabukuro said: “The fact that we’re that far out, something’s up.”

“It’s a mystery to me,” skater Brian Hansen said. “I think it’s a mystery to a lot of people.”

A mystery! At least that’s something for the American television audience to grab on to, because there is precious little suspense otherwise, save for the matter of when Bob Costas will return from his eye infection, and that’s a dodgy matter too. Who or what is poisoning us?

What accounts for this? Ted Ligety was the gold medal favorite in Friday’s super combined, yet he finished 12th, while Bode Miller was sixth, both of them shooting up huge rooster-tails of snow, futilely.

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1 posted on 02/15/2014 10:54:36 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Being an American offers no pride anymore.

The feeling stems from our distinctly anti-American administration.


2 posted on 02/15/2014 11:01:48 AM PST by struggle
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To: SeekAndFind

This is the first Olympics where I can honestly say I don’t give a crap what happens. I dont feel the need to cheer them on, and I certainly dont feel like a proud American in the “same boat”. Well, we’re in the same boat, but now i just feel like one of the slaves under the deck who are rowing, while so many are above deck sipping their mai tais.


3 posted on 02/15/2014 11:02:03 AM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: struggle

I agree, but I also disagree.

Conservatives are all for offshoring US jobs. Just like liberals are.

Nobody is building up America right now.

We are letting our own country, fall to pieces right in front of our eyes.

Build up America. Now.


4 posted on 02/15/2014 11:04:12 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ( http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: SeekAndFind

Wouldn’t be surprised *if* something was up given Russia’s penchant for corruption.


5 posted on 02/15/2014 11:04:49 AM PST by setha (It is past time for the United States to take back what the world took away.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe if they spent less time making commercials and appearances and more time training.. nnyyaaaaaa..


6 posted on 02/15/2014 11:04:52 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I haven’t spent one second watching the Olympics this time around.I’m just Not interested.This country’s well being is at stake.


7 posted on 02/15/2014 11:06:10 AM PST by puppypusher ( The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: andyk

You and Michelle Obama would get along so well. You both despise America. How precious. You make me vomit!


8 posted on 02/15/2014 11:06:50 AM PST by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Can't really get too excited about these Olympics one way or the other.

Haven't for a few cycles now, just not the same since the cold war ended.

BTW it was the networks that started the medal count thing, which I always found ridiculous. The Olympics are about individuals competing, IMO.

9 posted on 02/15/2014 11:07:10 AM PST by skeeter
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To: SeekAndFind

Another dismal Obama Failure.


10 posted on 02/15/2014 11:07:31 AM PST by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM/BHO FREE AMERICA.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The spying from Russia is super creepy.

I love international athletics and the peaks of the sports. I love seeing the young people achieve their dreams or at least make it to the big stage. I will always love the Olympics like I love the American presidency. The optimistic hope that it will be done right needs to be dusted off after a lot of clouds of politics from time to time.

And I enjoy seeing all of Gds children do their best, whether or not their country is mine.


11 posted on 02/15/2014 11:07:43 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: SeekAndFind
I am embarrassed, but not because of our lack of medals.

I am embarrassed by our athletes. Their multicolored hair, tattoos, sloppy clothes, poor hygiene, and rumors of them “hooking up” with anything that moves in the Olympic village make me want to change to channel in disgust.

It had gotten so bad the other night, that I breathed a sigh of relief when an exceptionally poorly dressed boy who's pants keep falling down (because the small boy was wearing XXXX size clothes) while doing the slope style freestyle skiing turned out to be NOT American...

I was like THANK GOD! at least THAT one isn't one of ours!

12 posted on 02/15/2014 11:08:49 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: NormsRevenge
We're not really doing that badly. Must we always be on top?


13 posted on 02/15/2014 11:09:47 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Actually, that chart is outdated.

It used to be about competition,, now it’s smash your opponents and grab the medals and endorsements.

Pardon me for being so cynical but it is a hollow pre-packaged commercial rip-off.

I’ve watched some events .. but haven’t been able to catch a bad case of gas much less get my Olympic flame fired.


14 posted on 02/15/2014 11:14:23 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: napscoordinator

You know well it’s more complicated than that. Obamacare is part of america. The militarization of police is part of america. Crushing debt is part of america. The NFA, GCA, and FOPA are all part of america. The 16th and 17th amendments are part of America. The welfare state is part of America. The redistribution of wealth is part of America.

I do not support those things. I bet Michelle Obama does. How about you? Do those things make you proud of this country?


15 posted on 02/15/2014 11:15:05 AM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: andyk

I don’t see why you can’t be proud of Americans who worked their entire lives for this and still be disappointed in the government.


16 posted on 02/15/2014 11:18:43 AM PST by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Maybe if they spent less time making commercials and appearances and more time training.. nnyyaaaaaa..

Well, at least 85 of them wrote the UN to ask it to save the world from global warming. With an accomplishment such as that, why worry about getting medals?

17 posted on 02/15/2014 11:20:06 AM PST by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

That is exactly how I felt when I saw that kid!

Sad that we’ve come to expect our boys to look like sloppy brats.

I for one am tired of hearing them all whine and complain, Bode in particular. Funny, other athletes are getting down the hill...hmmm


18 posted on 02/15/2014 11:25:13 AM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: SeekAndFind

We are now tied for first.


19 posted on 02/15/2014 11:27:16 AM PST by Finalapproach29er (luke 6:38)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Funny to see you on this thread, so I’ll bite: how high should we raise taxes upon ourselves in order to get more Olympic medals? lol


20 posted on 02/15/2014 11:30:27 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: TexasFreeper2009
At least that slopestyle ski kid had the good sense to take the gum out of his mouth during the medal ceremony on the first day.

-PJ

21 posted on 02/15/2014 11:31:52 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: 1rudeboy

Hey did you see, we beat the Russians in hockey.

Wow.


22 posted on 02/15/2014 11:33:14 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ( http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: SeekAndFind
Must we always be on top?

Short answer: Yes. Always. We are Americans. At one time we WERE the best of the best and no one could touch us. We must crush all who stand in our path. Ask anyone around FR and that's going to be the prevailing attitude

What's the problem this time? Mediocrity. All those who were supposed to stand out....didn't. We have but a week left in these Olympics to prove ourselves....and, frankly, I don't hold out much hope.

Granted, there are some disciplines that we have never been a power in (Nordic disciplines, biathlon, ski jumping). There are some sports, however, that we have been dominant in past Olympics. It just seems that we've fielded some people who are great human interest stories, but not overwhelming competitors who should be winning their sports.

I'd love this to change, but we're getting to the point that sports should be something we'll need to take our focus off of in order to focus on more important things.

23 posted on 02/15/2014 11:34:43 AM PST by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: napscoordinator

Those Americans out lying to the world about global warming?

I find it easy to hope they get beaten, humiliated and lose every opportunity the Olympics may have offered.

Those that didn’t sigh up to lie about it? I hope they win.


24 posted on 02/15/2014 11:35:13 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

You could’ve been drinking with me at 6:30am to watch! And the owner of the bar put out a spread for us!


25 posted on 02/15/2014 11:36:41 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: hoagy62
We must crush all who stand in our path.

Sounds more like Germany than the US.

If you win all the time it gets boring, and people start to root for the underdogs.

People like comeback stories, and rightly so. Next time will be our comeback story.

26 posted on 02/15/2014 11:40:35 AM PST by x
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To: SeekAndFind

Kind of sums up the Obama presidency also. Maybe it is Bush’s fault they aren’t winning more.


27 posted on 02/15/2014 11:42:27 AM PST by Fledermaus (If we here in TN can't get rid of the worthless Lamar, it's over.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Wash Post rubbish. USA is currently second in totals awarded. I hate that commie rag


28 posted on 02/15/2014 11:44:08 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: andyk

Watch the women’s hockey team. USA has a very tough fast bunch on the ice. When they play Canada again watch the fur fly


29 posted on 02/15/2014 11:46:03 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: SeekAndFind
The US now has a total of 14, tied for second (only Russia has more with 15).

26 countries have won medals so far. Four of them have only won 1 medal. I don't know how many other countries are competing but haven't won any medals.

Obama said before his first election that he wanted to share the wealth around. Shouldn't we be striving to reduce medal inequality?

30 posted on 02/15/2014 11:47:12 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: TexasFreeper2009

.....”I am embarrassed by our athletes. Their multicolored hair, tattoos, sloppy clothes, poor hygiene, and rumors of them “hooking up” with anything that moves in the Olympic village make me want to change to channel in disgust”.....

Much truth in saying that....and it’s all about them. Sad to see such comments they are making in ‘blaming everything and anyone for their no-wins and poor performances.... from their suits to the condition of the slopes and on and on in why they are failing so.

Sadly they do represent most of our young today....victim mentality and life is suppose to be “fair” to me!


31 posted on 02/15/2014 11:50:34 AM PST by caww
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To: struggle

Exactly, Obama said we are not exceptional, or something of that sort.

After all everyone deserves a participation medal.


32 posted on 02/15/2014 11:51:32 AM PST by Sophia777
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To: andyk

I heard the US speed skaters blame their new suits for slowing them down.


33 posted on 02/15/2014 11:52:05 AM PST by AU72
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To: SeekAndFind

Other than the X-games junk the Winter Games are made up mostly of sports Americans don’t generally excel at. And the X-games have been around long enough for other countries to catch on and get good, same kind of thing that’s gone on in international basketball only with more medals. Really it’s predictable, we always had bad medal counts in winter, it’s been artificially inflated by the dress-like-a-bum sports, and now it’s fading back to the norm.


34 posted on 02/15/2014 11:53:50 AM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: 1rudeboy

I’ll have a coke.

(sorry swore off drinking, about a year and a half ago)

But just wow.

Way to go America.


35 posted on 02/15/2014 11:54:47 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ( http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Verginius Rufus

It’s been said these are our best...I tend to doubt this after seeing some of them fail to adapt and go for it...instead they’re complaining and groaning like spoiled children.

With our schools teaching “Everyone is a winner”.....these guys are learning they didn’t!


36 posted on 02/15/2014 11:55:28 AM PST by caww
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To: skeeter

The networks didn’t start the medal count, Nazi Germany did and the USSR kept it going. They both felt international competition was a great place to prove their superiority, which is also why the USSR dumped so much money into it. US networks noticed and figured it would add some “rah rah” ratings. And yeah the count goes totally against everything the Olympics stands for, at least in theory, but as long as they let nations organize their teams and stick their flag on their athletes they really have no room to complain.


37 posted on 02/15/2014 11:58:19 AM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Whining is unbecoming for our athletes...
38 posted on 02/15/2014 12:00:27 PM PST by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: hoagy62

People who think the US must be #1 all the time are best left not watching the Winter Games, the only time we’ve ever been #1 in the medal count for winter was 1932. We’re always top 10 but only top 3 half the time. It just doesn’t feature sports we excel at, mostly because it doesn’t feature sports we watch.


39 posted on 02/15/2014 12:06:19 PM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: caww

Actions do indeed have consequences.

I expect to see medals stricken from the olympics altogether if liberalism continues to rule. It will turn into a kids soccer situation where they all ski/skate around aimlessly and feel good about it. Then at the end, everyone including the crowd will get participation trophies and have pizza. And I am dead serious.


40 posted on 02/15/2014 12:06:49 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: SeekAndFind

Can’t seem to really care anymore. With America devolving down into such a degenerate sewer, via everything from fag-marriage to dope to Obama’s sheer lawlessness, it just changes the entire dynamic of how I look at the country. As America embraces evil, there’s less and less inclination to rally or support anything to do with it.


41 posted on 02/15/2014 12:12:18 PM PST by greene66
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To: x; discostu
Germany....not so much. East Germany....yeah. I admit that.

That being said...shouldn't our athletes be trained to win? Vince Lomarbdi said, "Winning isn't everything; it's the only thing."

Sure, the medal count is not what the Olympics is all about. However....we're speaking about national pride. Some countries show their national pride just by sending a team. Other countries show their pride by fielding athletes that should be able to win. That's how I see the US. We should be able to win a ton of medals. And, subsequently....when we don't win in events that we should have been able to win....that shows there's a problem.

42 posted on 02/15/2014 12:12:22 PM PST by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: napscoordinator

I’ll tell you why. The more that government gets more heavily invested in my personal decisions and detracts from my individual liberty, as the current is heading, the more I need to know about whether a person has furthered those means before I can root for them. If Obama was a world class athlete, and qualified for the olympic team, i dont care if he represented my country. I wouldnt root for him. I wouldnt root against him - I’d merely be disinterested. And thank you for your reply.


43 posted on 02/15/2014 12:12:47 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Jimmy Valentine

I did have fun watching the US -Russia shootout. And I confess that the Russia-Canadian women’s curling featured the two sexiest women’s teams ever. Period.

I’m just a little bitter with our government, is all. I doubt anyone here can blame me. It is a government of the people, right? It’s not some entity over which we have no control. We elect it. We enable it.


44 posted on 02/15/2014 12:18:38 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: hoagy62

Notice I said NAZI Germany, Hitler thought medal count was very important.

Sure we train our athletes to win. And so do the other countries.

My national pride has never been tied to athletes. My sense of pride has never been tied to nouns or accidents of fate. The fact that some Olympic athlete was born in the same country as me, especially with a country this big, just really says nothing about me. My sense of self worth is tied to active first person verbs, things I did.

“We” can’t win a ton of medals in the Winter Games because they’re made up of sports we just plain aren’t interested in, so our top athletes don’t play them. The fact is the athletes we’re sending to these games are in our second and third tier, our first tier primarily play football and basketball, some land in baseball, a few in hockey, and we tend to get a smattering scattered through the Summer Games (especially swimming, which really helps our medal count). But skiing and skating just don’t draw our top people. We only do as well as we do because we’re huge and a lot of countries top tier isn’t as good as our second and third.

The only “problem” is that American only pay attention to these sports every 4 years. As long as that’s the case we will continue to be so-so in these games. Nothing you can do about it, unless you want to start forcing our top athletes into different sports.


45 posted on 02/15/2014 12:21:49 PM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“Conservatives are all for offshoring US jobs.”

No. offshoring is a rational response to a impossible tax and regulatory environment.

“We are letting our own country, fall to pieces right in front of our eyes.”

No. We elected the people who are instituting policies that result in the dismantling of the engine of innovation and production.

“Build up America. Now.”

Simple. Make government dramatically smaller, force people to be less dependent upon it by giving them less free stuff than they are getting now (including medicare, medicaid, social security, foodstamps, government retirements of all kinds, etc.), lower taxes dramatically

Don’t want to do the above? Then you quite literally hate America and don’t want people to be able to prosper here.

So how many people do you think could get elected on that platform today?

If you get a check from the government, you’re the problem.


46 posted on 02/15/2014 12:31:30 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: NormsRevenge

You’d prefer they subsidised by gubmint?


47 posted on 02/15/2014 12:36:26 PM PST by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: puppypusher

I watch coverage from international media programming. Too many features pieces on american network at the expense of covering the event.

I want to see a race, not someone’s life story leading up to it.


48 posted on 02/15/2014 12:36:30 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I, for one, am enjoying the Olympics. Nothing made me smile more than to see Nicole Pikus-Pace win and climb the over railing into the stands to reach her family. She was so excited and happy. She got a silver medal in skeleton racing. Such joy. She is a charming winner and it brought tears to my eyes to see her happiness. You nay-sayers are missing the best of America. They deserve our cheering.


49 posted on 02/15/2014 12:43:35 PM PST by tioga (Every knee shall bend, every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.)
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To: tioga

Don’t watch, don’t care. Professionals making tons of money. Who the hell cares. If you want to be an Olympian shut up, quit whining and do your job. Ugly ugly ugly! And the media is totally corrupt! Pathetic!


50 posted on 02/15/2014 1:05:05 PM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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