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Spanish, Egyptian Archaeologists Make Discovery That Changes Chronology of the Pharaohs
Hispanically Speaking ^ | February 8, 2014 | unattributed

Posted on 02/15/2014 1:33:32 PM PST by SunkenCiv

A team of Spanish and Egyptian archaeologists made a find in a southern Egyptian tomb that opens the way to a reinterpretation of Pharaonic chronology, since it could show that Amenhotep III and his son Amenhotep IV reigned together.

The team, headed by Spaniard Francisco Martin Valentin and funded by Spain’s Gaselec foundation, excavated the remains of a wall and columns of the mausoleum of a minister of the 18th Pharaonic dynasty - 1569-1315 B.C. - in the province of Luxor.

What is exceptional about the discovery, Martin Valentin told Efe, is that in the excavation they found the names of Amenhotep III and Amenhotep IV carved together.

This “could confirm that the two Pharaohs governed jointly between nine and 10 years of the 39 that Amenhotep III governed, since the hieroglypics on the columns explain that they were both sovereigns of Upper and Lower Egypt,” the archaeologist said.

“There is nothing similar in Pharaonic history,” Martin Valentin said decisively.

The reigns of Amenhotep III, also known by the Hellenized name of Amenophis III, and of Amenhotep IV, who went down in history as Akhenaten, are among the most significant in Ancient Egypt for a number of reasons.

The father governed a country that witnessed one of its greatest periods of prosperity and internal stability under his long, almost 40-year reign.

Until now, experts thought the son had rebelled against his father’s way of ruling and that, after succeeding him on the throne when he died, acquired the name of Akhenaten and established monotheism for the first time, with Aten as the supreme deity.

But this new discovery, Martin Valentin said, could indicate that father and son were together in this revolutionary movement, since they shared the throne for some 10 years.

(Excerpt) Read more at hispanicallyspeakingnews.com ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: 18thdynasty; amarna; archaeology; catastrophism; egypt; epigraphyandlanguage; godsgravesglyphs; pharaohs
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1 posted on 02/15/2014 1:33:32 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv

Happy Valentin’s Day


2 posted on 02/15/2014 1:39:31 PM PST by mikrofon (History BUMP)
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To: SunkenCiv

Amenhotep IV (Akhenaten) Kissing His Daughter, 1352-1336 BCE


3 posted on 02/15/2014 1:45:35 PM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: JoeProBono

There’s a wall painting showing him smooching one daughter (in profile like this), while another daughter is looking up at her mother and pointing at father. He was a creep.


4 posted on 02/15/2014 1:47:40 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: 75thOVI; agrace; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aragorn; aristotleman; Avoiding_Sulla; ...
One of *those* topics, bigtime.

5 posted on 02/15/2014 1:48:38 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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6 posted on 02/15/2014 1:49:02 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: SunkenCiv

My Cuban in-laws do the same thing.

They’re not creeps.

Beware of creeping FR/cultural bigotry. That’s faulty history.

And my in-laws DO NOT make kissy around me.

My family’s Scandinavian. We don’t touch.


7 posted on 02/15/2014 2:06:01 PM PST by warchild9
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To: SunkenCiv

He appears to have been an ancient Egyptian Flower Child in LuxorFrancisco.


8 posted on 02/15/2014 2:08:46 PM PST by ThanhPhero (Khách sang La Vang hanh huong tham vieng Maria)
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To: SunkenCiv

Why, who’d have thought it? Could it be a translation error? The ancient Egyptians didn’t speak Spanish real good.


9 posted on 02/15/2014 2:51:08 PM PST by Tax-chick (The future is not going to take us seriously.)
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To: SunkenCiv
What amazes me is why we care about those people of THOUSANDS of years ago. They and their culture died out MILLENIA ago. Egypt is now Arab and Muslim. It will probably be that way for a LONG time.
10 posted on 02/15/2014 3:41:04 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain; SunkenCiv

You are talking about geography.

The topic is previous civilizations. Waaay before Islam.


11 posted on 02/15/2014 3:58:26 PM PST by fanfan ("If Muslim kids were asked to go to church on Sunday and take Holy Communion there would be war.")
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To: fanfan; cloudmountain

Cool old stuff is cool. If you don’t think so, that’s just you.


12 posted on 02/15/2014 4:15:59 PM PST by Tax-chick (The future is not going to take us seriously.)
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To: SunkenCiv

“There’s a wall painting showing him smooching one daughter (in profile like this), while another daughter is looking up at her mother and pointing at father. He was a creep.”

I see; you know just by the painting what the style & form of the flesh and blood kiss was. NOT.

I see; in western culture no parents ever kiss their children on the lips. NOT true.

Maybe the creepiness is in your head.


13 posted on 02/15/2014 4:54:33 PM PST by Wuli
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To: warchild9

The pharaoh was bangin’ his own daughters. I guess being against that makes me a bigot.


14 posted on 02/15/2014 5:19:41 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: cloudmountain

What amazes me is, how, after so many years, there are still trolls on FR.


15 posted on 02/15/2014 5:20:30 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: Wuli

The pharaoh was bangin’ his own daughters, but thanks for the insult.


16 posted on 02/15/2014 5:21:19 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: SunkenCiv

I don’t think you’re a bigot. I have some concerns that you might be an alien from Jupiter, but bigot? No way. Jupiterians are great people. Just ask anyone from Mars.


17 posted on 02/15/2014 6:36:01 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: ThanhPhero

No, Luxor was the old-fashioned place he was escaping from. His glorified hippie commune was called Akhetaten back then, and Tell el-Amarna today.


18 posted on 02/15/2014 7:00:44 PM PST by Berosus (I wish I had as much faith in God as liberals have in government.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Even trolls are allowed to be here. They make you look so good, so smart.

Besides, even trolls are entitled to some happiness. Hanging out here is happiness.

19 posted on 02/15/2014 7:34:42 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: SunkenCiv

More history for the Muslim brotherhood to destroy. They’d better take real good pictures and notes.


20 posted on 02/15/2014 7:53:23 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: SunkenCiv

Incest was a ‘normal’ part of Pharoah dynasties. It resulted in birth defects. King Tut had problems with his feet as did his preemie daughters. It was common for Pharoahs to have their sisters as their Queens. Lots of info is available online about that.

HOWEVER, that doesn’t mean that the kiss shared between father and baby daughter was a wrong kind of kiss. Some families do kiss like that..with big puckers on their lips. It’s not necessarily incestuous.


21 posted on 02/15/2014 7:55:28 PM PST by PrairieLady2
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To: SunkenCiv

Interesting, because there are a lot of ramifications if they change the “standard” chronology of Egyptian dynasties. The Egyptian chronology is the longest is the area, so all the other civilizations nearby, Greek, Assyrian, Hittite, etc, are dated in reference to the contemporary Egyptian dynasties.


22 posted on 02/17/2014 3:31:19 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Wuli; SunkenCiv

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1251731/King-Tutankhamuns-incestuous-family-revealed.html

“King Tut was known to be the son of the ‘heretic’ pharaoh Akhenaten, who tried to reform the Egyptian religion during his rule. But the identity of his mother had been shrouded in mystery - until now.

The fact that his mother and father were brother and sister may seem bizarre today but incest was rife among the boy king’s family because pharaohs were believed to be descended from the gods.

Therefore it was an acceptable way of retaining the sacred bloodline. King Tut’s own wife Ankhesenpaaten, was his half-sister as they shared the same father. They were married when he was just ten.

But Dr Hawass’ team found generations of inbreeding took their toll on King Tut - the last of his great dynasty.

The bone disease he suffered runs in families and is more likely to be passed down if two first-degree relatives marry and have children, the study published today in the Journal of the American Medical Association shows.”


So, Akhenaton was known to “keep it in the family”.


23 posted on 02/17/2014 3:39:16 PM PST by Boogieman
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