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Pontiac GTO 50th Anniversary: Ghost of “The Goat” Still Haunts Detroit – and Stuttgart, Too
Hagerty ^ | 10 February 2014 | Jim Koscs

Posted on 02/16/2014 6:48:26 PM PST by Impala64ssa

Happy 50th anniversary, Pontiac GTO! It’s too bad the Pontiac brand isn’t still around to celebrate, but there are legions of proud GTO owners and muscle car buffs who treasure the model that launched the muscle car genre.

The GTO history has been told too many times to count, so this feature will not add to the pile. Rather, it’s worth looking back at the impact the GTO made, not only on car enthusiasts, but also on the auto industry. The GTO’s influence continues today in ways and on cars that you might not suspect.

Let’s get a key issue out of the way. When discussing the GTO’s place in auto history, it’s safer to say, “Launched the musclecar genre” than “It was the first muscle car.” As Chevy, Ford and Mopar fans could correctly point out, several models that preceded the 1964 GTO offered performance to qualify as a muscle car. All any of those cars would prove, however, is that Detroit had already been catering to the performance enthusiast, albeit in very small numbers, and without crafting specific model identities. (The Chevy Impala Super Sport with one of the 409 V-8’s could certainly be considered an exception.)

What changed in late 1963, when the GTO arrived as a performance option for the 1964 Pontiac Tempest LeMans? That’s the year that the 3.4 million kids born in 1946, the first wave of “baby boomers,” turned 17. Clever marketing would prove every bit as valuable as engineering in reaching this group.

These buyers wanted more than fast quarter-mile times. They wanted to stand out at the drive-in and the burger drive-through. They wanted a car that reflected their self-image, a car with the look and sound of performance, not just impressive acceleration figures.

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To: Taxman

I always thought it stood for “Found on Roadside Dead”.


21 posted on 02/16/2014 8:59:31 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: Taxman
Oh yeah, I knew what they were, just funny how I also knew how few FReepers would have a clue what you were talking about. Never had to deal with them.

I still remember learning to set the valve clearance on the solid lifters of my '67 427/435 HP Corvette. Some clown told me to do it while running. What a smoky, useless mess that was.

Many decades later, I know much better. Too bad the Corvette is long gone. Motorcycle engines are excellent training tools.

22 posted on 02/16/2014 9:21:01 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: doorgunner69

I always preferred Rhodes lifters to solid lifters.

Don’t ask about the ‘67 Vette 427 ‘Vette that got away FRom me!


23 posted on 02/16/2014 9:36:47 PM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: yarddog

That, too!


24 posted on 02/16/2014 9:37:35 PM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Impala64ssa
Ummmm.... the 1964 GTO did not launch the muscle car. Chrysler was building serious ramcharger 426 wedges and hemis long before.

Chevy started putting the 348 truck block into 1958 models which later became the famous 409.

Ford also was also building the 390 long before the GTO came along.

Nothing against GTOs...I love them, but they were not the first muscle cars.

25 posted on 02/16/2014 10:01:02 PM PST by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: Victor
Let’s get a key issue out of the way. When discussing the GTO’s place in auto history, it’s safer to say, “Launched the musclecar genre” than “It was the first muscle car.” As Chevy, Ford and Mopar fans could correctly point out, several models that preceded the 1964 GTO offered performance to qualify as a muscle car.
26 posted on 02/16/2014 10:07:19 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Impala64ssa

The Judge was the first car I ever drove. A real nice one. The owner was too loaded to drive, so he threw me the keys. Kind of like getting thrown in the deep end of the pool, you might say. Took my first road trip to the Rockies in that car. Something I’ll never forget.

My brother owned a ‘64. At one time it was known as the fastest car in South Omaha. That’s what I heard anyway. :-)


27 posted on 02/16/2014 10:23:14 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Impala64ssa
Lots of milestones this year...the GTO is 50, the 426 Hemi is 50, Dodge is 100, I just turned 200...

Feels like it anyways, reading articles like this one.

28 posted on 02/16/2014 10:51:38 PM PST by BikerTrash
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To: Impala64ssa
Well everybody knows GTO’s are hot cars, but did you know my 1968 AMX with a 390 cu and automatic transmission beat a 65 GTO in a drag race in 1970?

To be honest I let my passenger out and bozo in the GTO had two passengers, I got him off the line and he never caught up.

29 posted on 02/17/2014 2:28:17 AM PST by urbanpovertylawcenter (the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: Taxman

Was going to ping you darling....but you’re already here! ;)


30 posted on 02/17/2014 2:56:04 AM PST by Daffynition ("If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right." ~ Henry Ford)
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To: Impala64ssa

living in CT, I had 1967 goat, stock, except the rear-end was ordered with the high speed gear.

Working nights in Hartford and living in Colchester, I would make the run on RT2 in I don’t remember how many minutes.

During this period CTSP were driving some Ford product which was “sold” as fast, because it had solid lifters.

Twice I out ran the CTSPs. They had just started using K band radar, with horn hanging off the left rear window. The first time I saw him he had his reds on and was behind me.

I dumped the Goat into third, nailed the accelerator, dropped, into 4th. His reds were no longer in sight. The second time was similar.


31 posted on 02/17/2014 5:16:34 AM PST by tiger-one
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To: Impala64ssa
Pontiac GTO

I enjoyed reading what others shared about their experiences with the GTO. However, I was surprised that I didn't find direct references to the Royal Oak, Michigan Pontiac dealer.

Royal Oaks sold an aftermarket performance upgrade for Lemans with the GTO option. They called it the “Bobcat Kit”.

The Bobcat Kit for my 1965 GTO coat around $100. For $100 and my labor the horsepower increased by 64 Horses and the RPM increased by 1200. A bargain for $100.

32 posted on 02/17/2014 8:03:31 AM PST by MosesKnows (Love many, trust few, and always paddle your own canoe.)
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To: Taxman
FORD stand for “Fix Or Repair Daily”

GTO stands for Gran Turismo Omologato.

33 posted on 02/17/2014 8:08:22 AM PST by MosesKnows (Love many, trust few, and always paddle your own canoe.)
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To: MosesKnows

Back in the day, we called it Gas, Tires and Oil.

The gas and tires part was probably true. I don’t think they used oil tho.


34 posted on 02/17/2014 9:48:20 AM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: yarddog
I remember the acronyms, Garbage Truck Option
Car Hardly Ever Vacates Yard
My Old Pig Ain't Running
Big Money Wasted :-)
35 posted on 02/17/2014 10:24:11 AM PST by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: Daffynition

Thanks for the thought, sweetie. Tellem how nice my GTO is!


36 posted on 02/17/2014 11:53:10 AM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: MosesKnows

Royal Pontiac was a VERY successful Pontiac mod shop — I think they even sold a factory 428 ci upgrade engine. I know they had a sterling reputation with their drag cars.

If one were to be able to find an original Royal Bobcat today, one would certainly have a sweet ride!


37 posted on 02/17/2014 11:57:21 AM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Daffynition

PS It is even nicer, now. And, a hellofalot noisier and much faster!

More fun, too!


38 posted on 02/17/2014 12:00:14 PM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Taxman

Is it that your wonderful goat is terrifically uber-fast......or is it b/c it is being guided by a former jet fighter pilot?

No matter .....flying through the cornfields of Manassas was a blast ..... are the indentations of my tightly gripping fingers still in the edge of the dashboard?

I don’t remember if you even have seatbelts in that goat.....just ejection seats.

It’s fun to know someone else who has a *need for speed.*


39 posted on 02/17/2014 1:22:24 PM PST by Daffynition ("If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right." ~ Henry Ford)
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To: yarddog
Back in 1968, my cousin had a '67 Camaro (which he still has after buying it back from the family of the guy who bought it and died in an auto accident with another vehicle) and another guy in town (little town in northern Michigan) had a GTO.

One night I was riding with my cousin and we spotted the GTO on the side of the country road since it had obviously had broken down. So what does my cousin do? He pops the hood of the GTO and steals the chrome cover off the air filter.......LOL!

40 posted on 02/17/2014 1:42:17 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Was Occam's razor made by Gillette?)
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