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Company plans to beam free Wi-fi to every person on Earth from space
Mail Online ^ | February 5,2014

Posted on 02/17/2014 9:16:06 AM PST by Hojczyk

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Forget the Internet - soon there will be the OUTERNET: Company plans to beam free Wi-fi to every person on Earth from space

An ambitious project known as Outernet is aiming to launch hundreds of miniature satellites into low Earth orbit by June 2015

Each satellite will broadcast the Internet to phones and computers giving billions of people across the globe free online access

Citizens of countries like China and North Korea that have censored online activity could be given free and unrestricted cyberspace 'There's really nothing that is technically impossible to this'

Known as Outernet, MDIF plans to launch hundreds of satellites into orbit by 2015.

And they say the project could provide unrestricted Internet access to countries where their web access is censored, including China and North Korea.

Using something known as datacasting technology, which involves sending data over wide radio waves, the New York-based company says they'll be able to broadcast the Internet around the world.

The group is hoping to raise tens of millions of dollars in donations to get the project on the road.

'There isn't a lot of raw research that is being done here; much of what is being described has already been proven by other small satellite programs and experiments.

There's really nothing that is technically impossible to this'

But at the prospect of telecoms operators trying to shut the project down before it gets off the ground, Karim said: 'We will fight... and win.'

If everything goes to plan, the Outernet project aims to ask NASA for permission to test the technology on the International Space Station.

And their ultimate goal will be to beginning deploying the Outernet satellites into Earth orbit, which they say can begin in June 2015.

https://www.outernet.is

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: china; corporateliberalism; internet; listentous; mdif; newyork; northkorea; outernet; pravdamedia; privacyrights; sitdownandshutup; wifi
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1 posted on 02/17/2014 9:16:06 AM PST by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

Hundreds of satellites by 2015? Better get busy!


2 posted on 02/17/2014 9:19:09 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Hojczyk

What could possibly go wrong? (besides nearly everything...)


3 posted on 02/17/2014 9:19:45 AM PST by DJ Frisat ((optional, printed after my name on post))
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To: Hojczyk

“Outernet”. Wow!

Why would anyone do this for free. I’m thinking it’s not going to be free for long.


4 posted on 02/17/2014 9:21:02 AM PST by Beowulf9
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To: Hojczyk
Quality content from all over the Internet.

Available to all of humanity.

For free.

Color me skeptical. If the service is given away for free then the product they are selling is you - that is, your privacy.

5 posted on 02/17/2014 9:21:06 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor)
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To: Hojczyk; GeronL; Revolting cat!; Daffynition
To as meaning "into".


6 posted on 02/17/2014 9:23:10 AM PST by a fool in paradise ("Health care is too important to be left to the government.")
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To: Hojczyk

The existing Wifi frequencies are probably designed for their current implementation: distances covered in hundreds of feet, bandwidth for small numbers of local users.

Good luck making existing devices work over distances of many miles, servicing millions of devices.


7 posted on 02/17/2014 9:23:11 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Paine in the Neck

8 posted on 02/17/2014 9:24:00 AM PST by a fool in paradise ("Health care is too important to be left to the government.")
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To: Paine in the Neck

https://www.outernet.is

Is this a non-profit…Yep

Outernet is being incubated by Media Development Investment Fund, a New York-based 501(c)3 nonprofit organization. MDIF has supported freedom of expression and information access since 1995.

Will they let the tea Party on????


9 posted on 02/17/2014 9:25:18 AM PST by Hojczyk
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To: a fool in paradise
From their forum, a question regarding security:

"It is very interesting to reveal more info regarding outer net. I don’t know my doubt is relevant here but just out of curiosity, Can we track the users of outer net like we do in internet connections by IP address? Or the peoples can anonymously use it for illegal purpose like the anti socials for their illegal activities"

Reply:

"No, users cannot be tracked; but no, users cannot use the Internet via Outernet. Nor can they choose the content being broadcast. This is a one way communcations mode, similar to talk radio using hypertext markup language instead of loudmouthed white men."

10 posted on 02/17/2014 9:25:26 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor)
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To: Paine in the Neck

I’m willing to listen to them. However, I’ve learned the truth of the statement, “There is no such thing as a ‘free lunch’”.


11 posted on 02/17/2014 9:27:00 AM PST by JimSEA
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To: Hojczyk
The group is hoping to raise tens of millions of dollars in donations to get the project on the road.

Wow....all it takes is use of real catchy phrases like "Wide RF technology", UDP, Cubesats (like those research programs funded by DARPA), and on and on and on.

I'm surprised they didn't through in "big data" somewhere there.

Physics is a real "b!tch." Taking a standard cell phone that has at most 10, 20 mW (heck, make it 100 mW) RF power and a likely omnidirectional antenna gain and then jumping to a 'cubesat' with an equally pitiful power budget when it comes to 'wide RF' transmission, along with all the other problems this 'scheme' could take is truly a feat.

Give them your money. They only need 'millions', but they'll take 'billions'.

12 posted on 02/17/2014 9:27:05 AM PST by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: Hojczyk

I do not wish to sleep under an Outernet moon!


13 posted on 02/17/2014 9:27:41 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: Paine in the Neck
Color me skeptical. If the service is given away for free then the product they are selling is you - that is, your privacy.

WE HAVE A WINNER!!!

14 posted on 02/17/2014 9:27:51 AM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Hojczyk
Will they let the tea Party on????

See reply #10. This is only from a poster on their forum, not their official position, but ...

Re: their non profit status. I believe Move On, Organizing for America, Planned Parenthood, etc are "non profit".

15 posted on 02/17/2014 9:29:35 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor)
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To: Hojczyk

How are they going to ensure that devices that can broadcast back to the satellites (for silly things like the desired URL)? I have satellite internet and it requires a parabolic dish with a higher transmission power than my tablet or computer.


16 posted on 02/17/2014 9:29:58 AM PST by MortMan (Is a delayed shower a "stay of exablution"?)
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To: Beowulf9

Or private


17 posted on 02/17/2014 9:31:09 AM PST by al baby (Hi MomÂ… I was refereeing to Obama)
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To: JimSEA

“”There is no such thing as a ‘free lunch’”.””

Well unless you are an illegal alien in public school


18 posted on 02/17/2014 9:32:35 AM PST by al baby (Hi MomÂ… I was refereeing to Obama)
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To: Hojczyk

Very nice, but you need a suitable receiver. It will not be cheap. Governments can block its import. Plus there’s the problem of latency. 1/4 second. No way to overcome that one.

Maybe they can get the democrats to declare that internet access is an entitlement, and instead of obamaphones they will be giving the “poor” their very own sattelite modems.


19 posted on 02/17/2014 9:34:52 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: DJ Frisat

“We’re sorry for the interruption in your service. A meteorite has exploded near your satellite receptor. We expect to restore service soon, in no more than 8 to 10 weeks.”


20 posted on 02/17/2014 9:35:31 AM PST by MrChips (Ad sapientiam pertinet aeternarum rerum cognitio intellectualis - St. Augustine)
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To: Hojczyk
Great idea if the NSA doesn't compromise the data link.

5.56mm

21 posted on 02/17/2014 9:35:38 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: a fool in paradise

free.... that is some business plan


22 posted on 02/17/2014 9:41:22 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Paine in the Neck

Are there any health risks as more and more electronic signals and radio waves bombard people?

Would Tesla’s wireless electricity transmission have had potential health risks in the long haul?


23 posted on 02/17/2014 9:41:38 AM PST by a fool in paradise ("Health care is too important to be left to the government.")
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To: Hojczyk

The “technically” impossible part is the “free” part


24 posted on 02/17/2014 9:42:25 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: M Kehoe
Great idea if the NSA doesn't compromise the data link.

That, and the ChiComms will disable each satellite they can reach.

25 posted on 02/17/2014 9:42:33 AM PST by alancarp
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To: M Kehoe

“Great idea if the NSA doesn’t compromise the data link.”

Silly lad. Who do you think will be financing this free lunch?

Then, they will be able to monitor every cell phone call or bit of data sent from a computer/tablet around the world, not just in America.


26 posted on 02/17/2014 9:42:56 AM PST by Grampa Dave ( Obozo Care is a Trinity of Lies! Obozo Care is probably a serious Black Swan event.)
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To: Paine in the Neck; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; ...
"No, users cannot be tracked; but no, users cannot use the Internet via Outernet. Nor can they choose the content being broadcast. This is a one way communcations mode, similar to talk radio using hypertext markup language instead of loudmouthed white men."

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don't add you to the list...

27 posted on 02/17/2014 9:43:02 AM PST by null and void (<--- unwilling cattle-car passenger on the bullet train to serfdom)
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To: Hojczyk

Who are the officers, who are the principle backers...


28 posted on 02/17/2014 9:45:14 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Hojczyk

yes, but what if it becomes sentient?


29 posted on 02/17/2014 9:45:25 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Paine in the Neck
"...users cannot use the Internet via Outernet. Nor can they choose the content being broadcast. This is a one way communcations mode..."

If this is true, it's nothing but free propaganda, regardless of the underlying ideology. And I'm guessing it'll be all-liberal, all-the-time.

Choice? Aside from 'the ability of a woman to choose what she does with her body', there is no such thing as choice anymore. There's what the libs want you to do, think and know, or there's evil...

30 posted on 02/17/2014 9:45:57 AM PST by DJ Frisat ((optional, printed after my name on post))
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To: I want the USA back
Plus there’s the problem of latency. 1/4 second. No way to overcome that one.

These are not in geosynchronous orbit. They are close in, that overcomes latency.

31 posted on 02/17/2014 9:45:59 AM PST by null and void (<--- unwilling cattle-car passenger on the bullet train to serfdom)
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To: Gaffer

It’s FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

as soon as they can get someone to pay for it


32 posted on 02/17/2014 9:46:30 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL

IT’S FREE!!!!

The Obama Mantra [works for him, why not ‘bidness’?]


33 posted on 02/17/2014 9:47:56 AM PST by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: Hojczyk

I’m really sure that the North Korean’s or the Chinese are going to allow a wide open “Outernet”Spewing all sorts of western propaganda over their country ‘s .

That go’s for the rest of the dictatorships as well.Including our own little slice of Obama hell.

You can just about guarantee they’ll jam those signals unless it’s to their benefit.


34 posted on 02/17/2014 9:48:09 AM PST by puppypusher ( The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: Hojczyk

Trying something like this in the ‘90s (for phone service only) was one of the things that killed Motorola. I suspect the economics are much better now, especially since it’s sounds like they’re going for one-way transmission only. That is, they will continuously broadcast network content worldwide and your computer will cache it for whenever you decide read it.

If they broadcast 100 megabits/second, that’s about 4 GB of data that your computer can slurp up every hour, or about 100 GB/day, that you can then sample at your leisure. They could easily update you daily on the 1000 most popular websites, the 1000 most popular YouTube videos, and perhaps even provide a cache for a 1000 new DRM mp3 songs every day, that you could tap into with your credit card.

It wouldn’t be like being live on the Internet. For example, you probably can’t transmit back to it without some land-based service, but you could certainly browse a lot of bits.

The choice of what you get to browse, however, will be theirs. Even transmitting 100 GB per day, they won’t necessarily transmit FreeRepublic or any of your other favorite sites. Then again, they might choose to be an alternative to the liberal ground-based media. It could be revolutionary!


35 posted on 02/17/2014 9:48:19 AM PST by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: Hojczyk
RE :”The group is hoping to raise tens of millions of dollars in donations to get the project on the road”

Lets see how many suckers buy this one.

36 posted on 02/17/2014 9:48:50 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'Any path to US citizenship for illegals HERE is a special path to it ')
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To: Hojczyk

Step 1 in the evil alien plot to enslave humanity.


37 posted on 02/17/2014 9:49:42 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: null and void

Correct. But then you have to have more circuitry from Doppler shift removal.

If you could get all this scheme to work, you’re talking about more sophisticated phones (a billion?).....nope, that’s not a problem...I’m sure Apple is working on the iSat right now.


38 posted on 02/17/2014 9:50:17 AM PST by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: Beowulf9
I'm thinking they'll make tones of advertising and subscribing websites.

This could be like radio free Europe on a grand scale to reach dictator controlled nations. I like it (I think).

39 posted on 02/17/2014 9:50:19 AM PST by Baynative (Got bulbs? Check my profile page.)
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To: GeronL

No wonder Sirius XM just made me such a screamin’ cheap deal to turn my sat radio back on.


40 posted on 02/17/2014 9:55:03 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Baynative
This could be like radio free Europe on a grand scale to reach dictator controlled nations.

the Iranian Mullahs will have to rig a giant sheet of tinfoil over the entire country.


41 posted on 02/17/2014 9:56:24 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: I want the USA back
"Maybe they can get the democrats to declare that internet access is an entitlement, and instead of obamaphones they will be giving the “poor” their very own sattelite modems."

Along with a great big red "vote Rat" button for the coming all electronic voting systems controlled from central government servers.

42 posted on 02/17/2014 9:58:00 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Hojczyk

More and more we are drawing closer to the time when “every eye shall behold Him”


43 posted on 02/17/2014 10:00:21 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Beowulf9
Why would anyone do this for free. I’m thinking it’s not going to be free for long.

The upper-right quadrant of your screen might be taken up with some interesting images...


44 posted on 02/17/2014 10:00:54 AM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: Paine in the Neck

>> If the service is given away for free then the product they are selling is you

Very well said.


45 posted on 02/17/2014 10:01:41 AM PST by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: COBOL2Java

Aack!

Don’t DO that!


46 posted on 02/17/2014 10:03:39 AM PST by Beowulf9
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I won’t do sat radio

No way do I want my money funding most of that crap. I mean I checked the channel listing. There is a Playboy Channel, a Sex Channel a Howard Stern Channel etc etc

Not my penny.


47 posted on 02/17/2014 10:09:22 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Hojczyk
Company plans to beam free Wi-fi to every person on Earth from space An ambitious project known as Outernet is aiming to launch hundreds of miniature satellites into low Earth orbit by June 2015.


48 posted on 02/17/2014 10:10:34 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to behead anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Truth29; I want the USA back

It is already happening.

High speed internet is being offered to families of kids on free lunch programs for $10 a month guaranteed for 2 years, YOU and I are subsidizing that on our internet bills.


49 posted on 02/17/2014 10:15:32 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Same here. I called them up last week and re-upped. I went the internet route only because I no longer have a Sirius radio. Now that they have an android app I don’t need a radio. I just plug my phone into the aux jack in my truck and I have satellite radio again. For $15.00 a month it’s a great deal.


50 posted on 02/17/2014 10:17:10 AM PST by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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