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**Vanity** Computer Help
Me | 02/17/2014 | Me

Posted on 02/17/2014 4:51:50 PM PST by Zeneta

OK.

I'm trying to figure out if I can upgrade my Dell optiplex 740, to a "Dual-core" processor.

I read on Dell's "community boards" that it might be possible. I'd like to know for sure and what it would take.

What processor, make model etc..?

Is it a function of just popping out the old chip and installing the new one ?

I'm trying to keep the cost as low as possible, so I'm willing to purchase a used machine to get the right processor if that makes sense.

Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.

System Information ------------------ Time of this report: 2/11/2014, 09:27:03 Machine name: ******** Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_qfe.130704-0421) Language: English (Regional Setting: English) System Manufacturer: Dell Inc. System Model: OptiPlex 740 Enhanced BIOS: )Phoenix - Award WorkstationBIOS v6.00PG Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 1640B, MMX, 3DNow, ~2.7GHz Memory: 3326MB RAM Page File: 964MB used, 4245MB available Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904) DX Setup Parameters: Not found DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.5512 32bit Unicode


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To: milagro

I intially had the audio problem with Skype.

It seemed to start up with the computer audio on MUTE.

Check to make sure Skype has not defaulted your audio to MUTE.


41 posted on 02/17/2014 5:30:56 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: milagro

You might need to check your audio drivers, but check the Skype audio settings first.


42 posted on 02/17/2014 5:31:17 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Ray76

I did some work (temporary) back in 2011 on the same machine.

IIRC, I ran two programs, neither required a download/install.

I think they ran on a VPN.

They may have upgraded things on their end.


43 posted on 02/17/2014 5:33:49 PM PST by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: shibumi

Holy crap! Scary photo; looks like the puter lab at school in the seventies!


44 posted on 02/17/2014 5:34:04 PM PST by Segovia
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To: Zeneta

Any chance you could try things out with your current setup? If it doesn’t work or perform adequately then I’d just go with a new machine just for the no-hassle factor, but that’s just me.


45 posted on 02/17/2014 5:37:26 PM PST by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: Zeneta

BTW Im dumb and didn’t finish reading your post. Disregard what I said earlier as that system is not intel

That system actually may have some life left in it since it runs AMD processors. I believe there is a bios update for it that adds support for some of the dual and quad core AMD phenom processors. If you live in the Houston area, I have one in my garage you can have.

My mediaserver has a very old Asus motherboard that received new life with a processor upgrade. It’s currently running a 6 core CPU, despite it being old. AMD socket AM2, AM2+, and AM3 motherboards are somewhat cross compatible, meaning you can stick an AM3 processor in a socket AM2 motherboard. The key is whether the motherboard manufacturer updated the bios to allow for this. I believe dell has an “enhanced” bios for the OptiPlex 740. With Dell’s its a matter of downloading the file and launching the application.

If you lived close, in the Houston area, I would gladly hand you an older AMD cpu I have sitting here collecting dust. It’s an AMD Athlon64 X2 5000+ 2.6Ghz CPU. I found some on ebay for like $15

When installing and removing these, you have to be very careful not to bend the pins. As long you are gentle, it’s not a big deal.


46 posted on 02/17/2014 5:38:00 PM PST by drunknsage
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To: Zeneta

Processor anymore is the last thing to upgrade. Want to make it fast? Put in 8BG of RAM, an SSD, and a new video card.


47 posted on 02/17/2014 5:43:34 PM PST by gura (If Allah is so great, why does he need fat sexually confused fanboys to do his dirty work? -iowahawk)
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To: Zeneta

Buy a CPU and Motherboard combo kit and put them in your old box. You can get some good bargains if you shop around. You can buy the MB and CPU separately as well, but if you buy them as a kit you know they will work together and you’ll have all the documentation and parts.


48 posted on 02/17/2014 5:43:41 PM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Revolting cat!

49 posted on 02/17/2014 5:44:31 PM PST by gura (If Allah is so great, why does he need fat sexually confused fanboys to do his dirty work? -iowahawk)
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To: Zeneta

Here

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=111269471275&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT


50 posted on 02/17/2014 5:48:00 PM PST by woodenickel
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To: Zeneta

My wife bought a Dell tablet a few years ago.
It was a lemon.
I spent literally 30 hours on the phone talking to their “help” line some where in Itzlobamizad.
“Please to reboot your computer.”
After many, many calls, they sent a technician to her office who replaced her display.
Still no good. Many calls later, they finally admitted she had a lemon.
This took six weeks.
The darned thing still never worked right.
She bought a Mac.
She is now happy.
I know they are spendy, but they work.


51 posted on 02/17/2014 5:49:12 PM PST by MistrX
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To: Segovia

Holy crap! Scary photo; looks like the puter lab at school in the seventies!


Looks like the computer installation I supported at an IBM company installation in the 70s. Some good times.


52 posted on 02/17/2014 5:49:54 PM PST by bytesmith
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To: woodenickel

Needs at least another 2GB of RAM unless you’re going to run linux.


53 posted on 02/17/2014 5:50:50 PM PST by gura (If Allah is so great, why does he need fat sexually confused fanboys to do his dirty work? -iowahawk)
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To: Zeneta
I did what you described. I first went to the Dell website, and entered the proper model number to get the exact system specifications. It told me that a dual processor would work in the motherboard. If the model and maintenance code labels are no longer on the outside, you can read the information in the BIOS.

The problem though, was that after I installed the new processor (I bought it on eBay for less than 20 bucks) I could detect no difference in speed of the machine on the things I did. They were mostly Excel, Word, AutoCAD, and browsing.

54 posted on 02/17/2014 5:57:04 PM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: Zeneta
Please excuse the controlling twits who either fail to understand the question, or have a character flaw that compels them at every opportunity to prove how intelligent and knowledgeable they are.
And every one of them will never be able to utter the words, "I don't know."

As for your question, most PC computers are designed around one, or a limited number of microprocessors. This is true of both the sockets they must fit into, as well as the few or many supporting chips on any specific motherboard.
Even different "builds" of the same motherboard may not accept the same new chips after they are upgraded. Even experts in computer circuitry and design can need days to determine IF a change like you propose for any specific model is possible, or not.

It is possible to get an answer, but paying an expect to provide it would cost more than buying the newer chip in the proper motherboard it was designed for, even if the answer is, "no, it isn't possible."

55 posted on 02/17/2014 5:57:37 PM PST by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good g race to resign!)
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To: publius911
As for your question, most PC computers are designed around one, or a limited number of microprocessors. This is true of both the sockets they must fit into, as well as the few or many supporting chips on any specific motherboard. Even different "builds" of the same motherboard may not accept the same new chips after they are upgraded. Even experts in computer circuitry and design can need days to determine IF a change like you propose for any specific model is possible, or not.

This is what I expected.

From what I can tell, so far. My MB supports a dual core. I can get that chip for $15 on Ebay. I would however, like to know "FOR SURE" that it will work. I suppose $15 for trial and error is pretty cheap. But if I get the wrong "dual-core" for this trial/error, I'll end up spending the dollars on a new machine that I would otherwise not need to spend.

Thanks for your feedback.

56 posted on 02/17/2014 6:05:56 PM PST by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: Zeneta

There are a lot of computers collecting dust, check Good Will and Craigs list, you may find an assembled computer with the specs you want for less than the cost of a CPU.


57 posted on 02/17/2014 6:07:23 PM PST by dangerdoc (I don't think you should be forced to make the same decision I did even if I know I'm right.)
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To: Zeneta
$278 for a nice, new desktop computer. I've seen decent desktops under $200 at times, way more cost effective than trying to breathe life into an old dinosaur.

You can also buy something that is a year or two old on Craigslist for less than that. If you go that route, they usually throw in the monitor and keyboard for a package deal, and it saves a lot of money.

Want a laptop? There's a 15 inch Toshiba for $288 on this page. I've seen dual cores in the $250 range at times, below $200 at Christmas. If you are using a Dell that old, this one will seem like a beast.

After you have your new computer, find a use for your old one here.

58 posted on 02/17/2014 6:09:00 PM PST by Defiant (Let the Tea Party win, and we will declare peace on the American people and go home.)
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To: drunknsage

Certainly a Pentium D won’t work with his motherboard. Besides they run way to hot. ;-)


59 posted on 02/17/2014 6:11:58 PM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: Zeneta
I don't know if a CPU change will prompt a validation error for your Windows XP (I changed a dvd rom once and had to call microsoft for a new validation code) but that is something else you have to consider. Remember, they are giving up support of XP this year too.

A person posted the Newegg system with Windows 7 that sounds like a much better deal.

60 posted on 02/17/2014 6:15:12 PM PST by Abby4116
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