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This Is How Ukrainian Protesters Attack An Armored Personnel Carrier
Zerohedge ^ | 2/18/14 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 02/18/2014 4:04:51 PM PST by Kartographer

Watch as sparks fly between a Ukrainian military APC, possibly the same one we revealed earlier, as it gets into some blazingly close encounters with the Kiev protesters. It is unclear who won however it is quite clear that at this point the proxy war in Ukraine between Russia/Gazprom and the European Union/US State Dept/Saudi/Qatar can be upgraded to "hot."

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WOW! check out the video!
1 posted on 02/18/2014 4:04:51 PM PST by Kartographer
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“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
2 posted on 02/18/2014 4:06:26 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Ha! My People!! I love them!

Never mess with pissed-off Ukies!!!


3 posted on 02/18/2014 4:06:48 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Kartographer

Life during Wartime.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYn9JF0TSgw


4 posted on 02/18/2014 4:07:39 PM PST by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: Kartographer

The Molotov is the equalizer when it comes to APC’s or MRAPS


5 posted on 02/18/2014 4:07:40 PM PST by gwgn02
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To: Kartographer

Yikes. Looka like civil war is on.

6 policemen dead
•6 protestors dead
•Police HQ in Ternopli on fire
•Police HQ in Lviv occupied
•More than 150 injuries


6 posted on 02/18/2014 4:08:57 PM PST by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: Kartographer
very few things stand up to fire... specially if you have enough of it
7 posted on 02/18/2014 4:10:39 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Chode
Dissolve Styrofoam cups in gasoline until the mixture gets nice and sticky.Apply as needed.
8 posted on 02/18/2014 4:14:34 PM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Kartographer

Simple but very effective way to deal with the forces of Tyranny.


9 posted on 02/18/2014 4:14:34 PM PST by Howie66 (John Wayne McCornyn...he's just like US! Honest!)
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To: NFHale

Kindred souls?

Git Some! Rah!


10 posted on 02/18/2014 4:16:11 PM PST by Howie66 (John Wayne McCornyn...he's just like US! Honest!)
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To: Farmer Dean
packing peanuts...
11 posted on 02/18/2014 4:20:45 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Kartographer
...it is quite clear that at this point the proxy war in Ukraine between Russia/Gazprom and the European Union/US State Dept/Saudi/Qatar can be upgraded...

Well, finally a fairly accurate description of what the Ukrainians Face.

It's not about them.

12 posted on 02/18/2014 4:21:28 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Navy Patriot
...it is quite clear that at this point the proxy war in Ukraine between Russia/Gazprom and the European Union/US State Dept/Saudi/Qatar can be upgraded... Well, finally a fairly accurate description of what the Ukrainians Face. It's not about them.

A lot like Poland in 1939, caught in between two monsters.

13 posted on 02/18/2014 4:22:24 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Kartographer
“I am a sick man... I am a spiteful man. I am an unpleasant man. I think my liver is diseased. However, I don't know beans about my disease, and I am not sure what is bothering me. I don't treat it and never have, though I respect medicine and doctors. Besides, I am extremely superstitious, let's say sufficiently so to respect medicine. (I am educated enough not to be superstitious, but I am.) No, I refuse to treat it out of spite. You probably will not understand that. Well, but I understand it. Of course I can't explain to you just whom I am annoying in this case by my spite. I am perfectly well aware that I cannot "get even" with the doctors by not consulting them. I know better than anyone that I thereby injure only myself and no one else. But still, if I don't treat it, its is out of spite. My liver is bad, well then-- let it get even worse!”

― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Notes from Underground

14 posted on 02/18/2014 4:22:31 PM PST by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: Farmer Dean
Dissolve Styrofoam cups in gasoline

Yep. Or use packing peanuts instead of the cups. Or sheet insulation.

And lighter fluid works pretty well as the solvent, I'm told. As does acetone, benzene, and petroleum ether.

15 posted on 02/18/2014 4:23:14 PM PST by IronJack
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To: FReepers
FREEDOM!


Click The Pic To Donate

It's Not Just A Buzzword

16 posted on 02/18/2014 4:23:15 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Chode; Farmer Dean

Just make sure you get the Evil Plastic kind, not the biodegradable fake-Cheetos kind.


17 posted on 02/18/2014 4:26:01 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: IronJack

Last I heard,flamethrowers are legal and unregulated.Anyone with good shop skills should be able to build one in a day or two.


18 posted on 02/18/2014 4:28:22 PM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Chode

In that video they had plenty of fire. And a lot more than a molatov I would think. Looked to me like a trap - a low spot filled with gasoline, and then a molatov to set it all off?


19 posted on 02/18/2014 4:35:17 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: Farmer Dean

Everything is legal and unregulated when you win and remain alive.


20 posted on 02/18/2014 4:36:25 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Kartographer

Anybody know if oil based paint filled balloons have ever been used like M.C.’s?


21 posted on 02/18/2014 4:37:44 PM PST by The Working Man
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To: DuncanWaring
LOL!!! yup
22 posted on 02/18/2014 4:37:58 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Chode

The protestors brought the rain on that one.

Yes, notes are being taken.

For... Academic purposes....


23 posted on 02/18/2014 4:39:19 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Tre Norner eg ber, binde til rota...)
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To: 21twelve
a distinct possibility... it sure engulfed fast
24 posted on 02/18/2014 4:40:22 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Kartographer

“RED” hots!


25 posted on 02/18/2014 4:43:38 PM PST by wetgundog (" Extremism in the Defense of Liberty is no Vice")
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To: Kartographer

That’s how it’s done Boston.


26 posted on 02/18/2014 4:44:42 PM PST by Manic_Episode (GOP = The Whig Party)
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To: Manic_Episode

As I remember there were many Boston FReepers who love big armored trucks and APCs. They made them feel so safe during the shealter in place order after the marathon bombing.


27 posted on 02/18/2014 4:47:32 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Dead Corpse
sure did!!! For... Academic purposes.... of course
28 posted on 02/18/2014 4:54:32 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Farmer Dean
Last I heard,flamethrowers are legal and unregulated.Anyone with good shop skills should be able to build one in a day or two.

Hmmmmm. One tank of inert gas (nitrogen?) for pressure, one tank of flammable liquid (No. 2 heating oil?), a braided steel line connecting the fire tank to a long tube with an igniter (piezo "sparker" off a gas stove?), and a trigger that controls a valve to the tank.

Crude ... but it might work.

29 posted on 02/18/2014 5:20:16 PM PST by IronJack
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To: Kartographer

Rioters. They ceased to be protestors the minute they showed up prepared to do battle.


30 posted on 02/18/2014 5:52:15 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

It ceases to be police enforcement once military hardware shows up.


31 posted on 02/18/2014 5:58:46 PM PST by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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To: Kartographer

Send this video to all PDs that have these vehicles. This is their future if they try to confiscate legally owned firearms from American citizens.The difference is here they will be shot trying to get out!


32 posted on 02/18/2014 6:19:41 PM PST by Renegade
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To: Kartographer

Let me get this straight: We have FReepers (who normally speak with venomous hatred for Soros) rooting for the Soros-backed gangs in the streets against the lawfully established authorities — who in recent weeks have been bending over backward to compromise with the (uncompromising) radical, leftist, Soros-backed, US-backed street rioters. Sort of like we had on the streets in NYC a winter or two ago (Occupy Movement, anyone)?

Sorry: Count me out in rooting for these scum. Methinks many FReepers in here are not seeing things for what they are. Not all rebellions are 1776. Some are 1917.


33 posted on 02/18/2014 6:39:28 PM PST by man_in_tx (Blowback (Faithfully farting twowards Mecca five times daily).)
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To: man_in_tx

Seems to me what is wanted here is for the Ukrain to return to the Russian fold. Hard to believe that some FReepers would be root for that.


34 posted on 02/18/2014 6:47:55 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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Few have ever heard of Soros in Ukraine.
Leave your parochial obsessions at home.

Shame on so-called “Conservatives” who would support Russian expansionism because they despise some nobody named Soros.


35 posted on 02/18/2014 6:55:07 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: Kartographer

Russia could choke off the Western Ukraine in a matter of weeks. The EU isn’t giving them any money because other EU states like Spain will come begging. Without Russia buying debt and importing crappy Ukrainian goods they will go bankrupt.

Also, don’t ignore the Nazi sympathizers that are prominent in the opposition leadership.

These protestors are going to get a cold dose of reality about their popular support and their ability to hold power. They don’t have majority support and they have no economic sway.


36 posted on 02/18/2014 6:58:10 PM PST by sunrise_sunset
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To: sunrise_sunset

So what we have here is the Nazis and the Communist? What a choice.


37 posted on 02/18/2014 7:00:55 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Revolting cat!

Few have ever heard of Soros in Ukraine.
Leave your parochial obsessions at home.

Shame on so-called “Conservatives” who would support Russian expansionism because they despise some nobody named Soros.

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Because they have not heard of him does not mean he is not working behind the scenes. How man Brits knew who he was when he caused their economy harm?

Parochial obsessions? Soros has been involved in financial scandals around the globe. Please review the meaning of “parochial.”

Soros is a nobody? His name appears on seemingly every other thread on FR.

I do not support Russian expansionism. Nor do I support EU expansionism or Saudi jihad money that flows from oil. Do you think Brussels is a benign capital? Do you see how it fears Switzerland’s recent reassertion of its prerogative to control its own borders? What conservative supports this tyranny, one might ask.

The fight in Kiev is akin to that between Sunnis and Shiites: Neither side is admirable. All things being equal, why not support the legally established authority (albeit not blindly, but with reservations).


38 posted on 02/18/2014 7:22:45 PM PST by man_in_tx (Blowback (Faithfully farting twowards Mecca five times daily).)
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To: Kartographer

Seems to me what is wanted here is for the Ukrain to return to the Russian fold. Hard to believe that some FReepers would be root for that.

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I agree that coming under the Russian heel is ill-advised. That part of the protest I get.

There was a middle way, when the existing Government offered the resistance the post of Prime Minister, but they refused. How is that unreasonable? Has Obama or Harry Reid offered the Tea Party anything of the sort?

So, may I ask: Are you a fan of the EU? The EU that prosecutes home schoolers? The EU that imports Muslims by the boatload, flooding Europe with unassimalable hordes? The EU that condemns Israel for existing? I for one do not support the EU.


39 posted on 02/18/2014 7:27:51 PM PST by man_in_tx (Blowback (Faithfully farting twowards Mecca five times daily).)
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To: Kartographer

Well, the rabble there learned how to mix those right. And no, I’m not posting that kind of info.


40 posted on 02/18/2014 7:45:57 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Howie66

You got that right, brother...

OORah indeed...


41 posted on 02/18/2014 7:54:13 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: dfwgator
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG7qybObtTw

I just watched the full-length movie on the Katyn Massacre. The opening scene shows people coming across a bridge shouting “The Soviets are here - run, the Soviets are coming”. The camera pans to a crowd coming from the other side. “Go Back, Go Back! The Nazi's are coming.”

With Ukraine I did some brief searches - and agree, hard to pick a “right” side. Especially with all of the propaganda.

42 posted on 02/18/2014 7:55:36 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: 21twelve

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pocHgwUX5Ck

sorry - this one has english subtitles.


43 posted on 02/18/2014 7:56:55 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: man_in_tx

“The EU that prosecutes home schoolers? The EU that imports Muslims by the boatload, flooding Europe with unassimalable hordes? The EU that condemns Israel for existing?”

For a minute there I thought you were talking about the United States!


44 posted on 02/18/2014 7:58:47 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: man_in_tx

Why don’t you ask me who I like better Hitler or Stalin?


45 posted on 02/18/2014 9:02:41 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: 21twelve

Same technique as with RPG’s: mass attack guarantees better effect. I would say at least 12 molotovs got tossed simultaneouslyy at point blank range. They couldn’t miss.


46 posted on 02/18/2014 9:02:59 PM PST by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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To: dynachrome

I read the Berkut had snipers on the roofs- the protesters had guys with pipes storm the rooftops. Must have resulted in some very sore snipers and rifles now in the hands of the opposition.


47 posted on 02/18/2014 9:05:47 PM PST by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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To: 21twelve; man_in_tx
"For a minute there I thought you were talking about the United States!"

The way I see it at least the EU doesn't agree with listening in on everyone! On the whole as I see it there isn't all that much difference.
48 posted on 02/18/2014 9:05:49 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: man_in_tx

I don’t care if Soros is backing them or not. 300 years of Muscovite brutality is enough.


49 posted on 02/18/2014 9:12:33 PM PST by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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To: Kartographer

Being a conservative, of course you like Hitler. (At least that is what my brother thinks of me!)


50 posted on 02/18/2014 9:15:25 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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