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Could Oakland Become the Next Silicon Valley?
NBC Bay Area ^ | Wednesday, Feb 19, 2014 | Barbara E. Hernandez

Posted on 02/19/2014 5:02:07 PM PST by nickcarraway

We've had several reports that Silicon Valley is moving north to San Francisco, but one report asks, "Why not Oakland?"

Oakland is cheaper than San Francisco and easy to commute to and from, argues GigaOm editor Tom Krazit, and despite its problems boasts a central location and a "vibrant" community. Krazit doesn't oversell Oakland, in fact, he mentions it "isn't exactly paradise." However he does tout the culture, restaurants, weather and plenty of vacant commercial real estate.

The main commercial district of Oakland — which for the sake of this discussion we’ll consider the area roughly bordered by Jack London Square, Lake Merritt, I-980, and Grand Avenue — is already home to a few tech companies, including Pandora and whatever is left of Ask.com. But there are an awful lot of spaces that could accommodate a rapidly growing tech company, and a few places — like the old Sears store at Broadway and 20th right above BART — that used creatively could house much larger enterprises.

Krazit offers Oakland as a way to stop the tech sector polarization of San Francisco -- mainly by moving it to Oakland.

While it is true that Oakland would benefit from more businesses, jobs and a bigger tax base, steeper real estate prices and rents may not benefit Oakland residents. At least one article, which appeared in the Guardian (U.K.) told about Oakland residents disliking techies setting up shop. In it, Oakland's Mayor Jean Quan said the city would absorb the new residents to the city even if they were "white people from the Midwest."

The reality, and Krazit only touches on it, is that most tech workers are young and want to be with other young, driven people. San Francisco provides city living and geeky young things, but Oakland also has youth -- and if Oakland isn't enough, Berkeley certainly is close enough, too.

Oakland has become a beacon to younger artists and professionals that live there because San Francisco is too expensive, and they have created a youthful culture and vibrant nightlife across the Bay.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: california; oakland; sanfrancisco

1 posted on 02/19/2014 5:02:07 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Well, if they can redevelop Oakland, which has a lot of blight, it woulf be a good thing.


2 posted on 02/19/2014 5:05:40 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego (TH)
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To: nickcarraway

No. Ever been to Oakland?


3 posted on 02/19/2014 5:06:02 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: nickcarraway

This will get real interesting.


4 posted on 02/19/2014 5:06:25 PM PST by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: nickcarraway

Land is cheaper in Oakland...so is life.


5 posted on 02/19/2014 5:07:26 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: nickcarraway

It sounds crazy but this area of Oakland has some very good restaurants and a few tech companies. The issue is that you never feel totally safe, but with a few more companies I believe that could change.


7 posted on 02/19/2014 5:12:39 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: nickcarraway

Oakland is more like the next Detroit


8 posted on 02/19/2014 5:12:44 PM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: nickcarraway
Scorned Oakland 'gentrifier' accepts the label but calls for truce

But this year, Kopff became a scorned symbol of the angst over Oakland gentrification. He wrote an online essay describing his diverse, working-class neighborhood east of Lake Merritt as "mostly undiscovered" and a "virtual food desert" in need of an organic supermarket, better restaurants and "a coffee kiosk with patisserie bites."

I thought about posting this article, and I probably will.

9 posted on 02/19/2014 5:13:03 PM PST by Lonely Bull
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To: colorado tanker
No. Ever been to Oakland?

I was in Oakland a few months ago. They are crazy if they want to move there.

10 posted on 02/19/2014 5:13:04 PM PST by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: nickcarraway

Oakland residents are highly in favor of bringing in moneyed professionals on a daily basis, considering California’s strict gun and carry prohibitions.


11 posted on 02/19/2014 5:13:48 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: nickcarraway

You’ve gotta have a lot of courage to go to Oakland these days. A lot.


12 posted on 02/19/2014 5:14:15 PM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: NittanyLion

The more companies, the more money earned, the more the criminals will have a field day (and move into the upper class in the criminal world).

Oakland - a good target for a Neutron bomb.


13 posted on 02/19/2014 5:15:12 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: nickcarraway

With all the talk about nanotubes it should be called Carbon-Town.


14 posted on 02/19/2014 5:18:12 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: nickcarraway

What part of “Mexifornia” do those dolts not understand?

It’s either immigration, progressives, the Bug One...or combinations of the three that doom the future third world nation.

Get out.

Now.


15 posted on 02/19/2014 5:18:22 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Well, if they can redevelop Oakland, which has a lot of blight, it would be a good thing.

Sorry, Dilbert, but you're wrong on this one, Redevelopment is a scam to loot taxpayers.

The best plan would be to sterilize Oakland.

16 posted on 02/19/2014 5:19:12 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: nickcarraway

Oakland has every thug who can’t afford San Francisco and every communist islamoNazi community organizer pinko lesboqueer street person and academician who can’t afford Berkeley. Plus a horrible heavy drug gang problem and they kill and maim to protect their turf. Town can’t afford even minimal police either. Just a perfect place for the next busload of computer game metrosexual nerds. Like tossjng Christians in the coliseum with hungry lions. Might be fun to watch on the local NSA spy drone camera channel , however. Let’s do it!


17 posted on 02/19/2014 5:20:18 PM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: Lonely Bull
I thought about posting this article, and I probably will.

Done:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3124889/posts

18 posted on 02/19/2014 5:20:54 PM PST by Lonely Bull
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To: colorado tanker

I stayed in Piedmont Hills for a couple of weeks in 2004, where the back yard was filled with lemon and fruit trees and you could see the lights around Merritt Lake from the windows at night and would have to rest half way up, walking up the hills, after shopping in the shops/bookstore (radical leftist one) at the bottom of the hill. (You wouldn’t walk at night, though.)

Oakland has pockets of really neat Victorian houses (with maid quarters) and is very artsy. I actually was thinking of moving there at that time. I have close relatives in Alameda-—the island right off of Oakland there. Alameda is a really cool area, but more expensive than Oakland.


19 posted on 02/19/2014 5:22:28 PM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: faithhopecharity
You’ve gotta have a lot of courage to go to Oakland these days. A lot.

You got that right, I keep a nine mile moat between me and Oakland.

20 posted on 02/19/2014 5:22:40 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Lonely Bull

hehe

When has that ever stopped anybody?


21 posted on 02/19/2014 5:23:58 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: nickcarraway

I know a tech company that wanted to move to Oakland when Moonbeam was mayor. It was a billion $ company. Moonbeam demanded a two million $$$ bribe, under a different name of course, I forget what it was called, but it was above board, like many transactions of this type in this banana republic. The company moved down south closet to San Jose.


22 posted on 02/19/2014 5:24:44 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: nickcarraway

Oakland is on its way to being the next Detroit.


23 posted on 02/19/2014 5:26:14 PM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: nickcarraway

The Black Panthers will enjoy all the new targets. Easy pickings.


24 posted on 02/19/2014 5:28:22 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Obama lied; our healthcare died.)
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To: nickcarraway

I could grow a third nipple.


25 posted on 02/19/2014 5:29:22 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: nickcarraway

It will be a dark day when Silicon valley moves to Oakland. Kinda like the fashion industry moving to Detroit


26 posted on 02/19/2014 5:29:31 PM PST by clamper1797 (Evil WILL flourish when good men WILL not act)
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To: clamper1797

No pun intended BTW


27 posted on 02/19/2014 5:31:30 PM PST by clamper1797 (Evil WILL flourish when good men WILL not act)
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To: nickcarraway

Oakland, Texas or Oakland, Tennessee maybe. Oakland, California? No thanks.


28 posted on 02/19/2014 5:33:20 PM PST by hometoroost
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To: faithhopecharity

It might turn the wimps into actual manly men. Good idea.


29 posted on 02/19/2014 5:35:49 PM PST by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: nickcarraway
There is no need to expand. Silicon Valley has plenty of empty commercial real estate right now. One expansion that is occurring, slowly, is toward south - Morgan Hill, San Martin, and even Gilroy. There are businesses in Pleasanton and Livermore, but I wouldn't call it "expansion." Nobody in his right mind would even think about Oakland. It's a crowded place with horrible traffic and expensive bridges.
30 posted on 02/19/2014 5:46:06 PM PST by Greysard
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Well, if they can redevelop Oakland, which has a lot of blight, it woulf be a good thing.

Depends, I guess, on what would be done.

I'm actually from and in the Oakland area, though I've never lived or done regular work in the actual city and therefore get to avoid it.

There are pockets of development, which tend to look like dense "smart growth" and may bring with them "streetscape improvements" that are supposed to make the area more "vibrant," with as many other New Urbanist buzzwords as you can cram in.

I'm not afraid to visit Oakland at all, and within the past year I've actually driven through the middle of West Oakland and East Oakland multiple times, even at night, but I began a little boycott of the city after it began a regime of road narrowing, which is being advocated from high levels of government under various euphemisms, because we can have a shiny new city if we make it green, and hip, or something.

This is not at all to say that a city has to pour all its resources into taking care of its worst problems, with nothing left over for lesser priorities. It's just that I don't care to pay for inducing road stenosis.

Meanwhile, my problem isn't just with civic priorities. I still wouldn't care to drive through Oakland's rougher neighborhoods for fun, much less walk or ride on one of those new bike lanes. If you're trying to restore an old Victorian, construction workers are regularly robbed, and even the nicer neighborhoods are increasing in crimes like burglary and even armed robbery. Some neighborhoods have begun hiring private security.

31 posted on 02/19/2014 5:47:36 PM PST by Lonely Bull
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To: nickcarraway

Do I REALLY have to say anything about Oakland???


32 posted on 02/19/2014 5:47:39 PM PST by Organic Panic
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To: Lonely Bull; Dilbert San Diego

Oops: “I’m not afraid to visit Oakland at all” was intended to be more like “I’m not afraid to visit Oakland in general.”


33 posted on 02/19/2014 5:50:33 PM PST by Lonely Bull
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To: CorporateStepsister

Putting the nerds in Oakland is more likely to turn them into beef jerked than Clarence Beeftanks. But it’s definitely worth a try.


34 posted on 02/19/2014 5:50:38 PM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: Huskrrrr

“Land is cheaper in Oakland...so is life.”

So true. There is a reason the land is cheap in Oakland. Also Detroit.


35 posted on 02/19/2014 5:56:11 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: nickcarraway

That bus that takes tech workers to their job in San Francisco would have to be up armored and equipped with a pair of chain guns in Oakland.


36 posted on 02/19/2014 6:01:10 PM PST by Hardastarboard (The question of our age is whether a majority of Americans can and will vote us all into slavery.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Actually the carry provisions just got loosened up by court decision. It could be a good thing for Oakland over time.


37 posted on 02/19/2014 6:38:13 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster
Actually the carry provisions just got loosened up by court decision.

Maybe.

Read my tagline, then tell me if you'll be holding your breath till you get one.

38 posted on 02/19/2014 6:48:40 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: nickcarraway
Oakland's Mayor Jean Quan said the city would absorb the new residents to the city even if they were "white people from the Midwest."

Contemplate that, for a moment, will you?

39 posted on 02/19/2014 6:55:22 PM PST by gaijin
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To: Navy Patriot

Oh, I’ve had mine for a couple decades. We had concealed carry before concealed carry was cool, before FL even. I don’t live in CA, I just visit every now and then.


40 posted on 02/19/2014 6:58:53 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Lonely Bull; Dilbert San Diego
Some neighborhoods have begun hiring private security.

Private security guards are visible in Oakland's Rockridge district.

41 posted on 02/19/2014 7:05:02 PM PST by thecodont
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To: FreedomPoster
I don’t live in CA, I just visit every now and then.

Be sure and bring your gun.

42 posted on 02/19/2014 7:12:21 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Unfortunately, that isn’t very practical. So I avoid Oakland.


43 posted on 02/19/2014 7:33:30 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Why a neutron bomb? Couldn’t it benefit from an old fashioned 10 megaton blast to clear out all the blight.


44 posted on 02/19/2014 7:52:50 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not really out to get you.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

It would leave the buildings standing, and trees, etc. Then maybe in a couple thousand years American patriots could reclaim the city.

Big holes have a tendency to fill up with water and breed mosquitoes, snakehead fish, and Godzilla. We wouldn’t want that, would we?

On second thought, they are definitely a better choice than Democrats and lefties.

Humm! Gotta rethink my weapon of choice position.

I’m looking at a pack of “The Big Bang Theory” trading cards. Are they trying to influence my decision?


45 posted on 02/19/2014 10:38:08 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

related:

Scorned Oakland ‘gentrifier’ accepts the label but calls for truce
San Jose Mercury News | 02/13/2014 | Matt O’Brien
Posted on 2/19/2014 8:17:26 PM by Lonely Bull
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3124889/posts


46 posted on 02/20/2014 3:51:08 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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