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OK, new laptop with Windows 8.1 -- Bring on the advice (LOL ducking)

Posted on 02/19/2014 8:39:53 PM PST by F15Eagle

Yes I would love to take it back to Win 7 (like one of my other machines) but not an option at the moment.

I will hear, get a Mac, etc. LOL but I know some of you have dealt with it already and I just want to learn from your experience.

This will allow me to purge and reload my old laptop that has Vista Home Premium. Worked well for several years but it needs a full reload.

Thanks in advance.

I DID wait until they went from the 8.0 to the 8.1 - Is 8.2 already out?


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I haven't opened it yet -- It's an HP, 17=inch screen, 4gb, 1/2 gig drive, AMD A8 quad-core.

$350 at OfficeDepot or OfficeMax. If you can find one. They sell pretty fast. I got that last one new in a box in my city. The OfficeMax in the next city is out, display-only, and maybe the OfficeDepot has one.

Got the keywords started. This should be a fun thread.

1 posted on 02/19/2014 8:39:53 PM PST by F15Eagle
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To: F15Eagle

I assume you meant to say it has a 500 gig hard drive.


2 posted on 02/19/2014 8:41:18 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: F15Eagle

You forgot the “Get Linux” posts too


3 posted on 02/19/2014 8:41:34 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: F15Eagle

Don’t you think you should open it and give it a try before asking for help?

heh


4 posted on 02/19/2014 8:43:02 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: ShadowAce

tech ping, I think


5 posted on 02/19/2014 8:43:32 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: F15Eagle

Windows 8 ...... run away!


6 posted on 02/19/2014 8:43:36 PM PST by TsonicTsunami08
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To: GeronL

Well, maybe he needs help getting the box open!


7 posted on 02/19/2014 8:43:41 PM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

I really hope not. :p


8 posted on 02/19/2014 8:44:06 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: SeaHawkFan

Thanks for correcting my error - yes, 1/2 terabyte.

Thank you.


9 posted on 02/19/2014 8:44:27 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: GeronL

lol


10 posted on 02/19/2014 8:44:39 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: F15Eagle

When you get on the desktop run your curser right down in the lefthand corner and right click. Most of what you will need will come up on that menu.


11 posted on 02/19/2014 8:44:56 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (This is not just stupid, we're talking Democrat stupid here.)
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To: F15Eagle

Remove Windows 8 and install Windows 7

Immediately


12 posted on 02/19/2014 8:46:10 PM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: GeronL

Hehehe -— I’m avoiding all the “sign up for this” that I know is coming.

I know somebody once recommended a way to get rid of that gosh-awful interface on 8.

Just want to be sure I only go down the correct path before laying stuff down on it. Saw a buddy freaking out over Windows 8 last year -— nice laptop, lousy OS.


13 posted on 02/19/2014 8:46:15 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: F15Eagle

Just download StartisBack and you wont see any difference between windows 8 and 7..Ive been using that app since I got my Dell PC back in November and it boots up to the desktop, I dont even use the little tiles, you look at my PC and you would think Im on Windows 7..and I think Windows 8.2 might be coming out in April from what I hear there was a delay


14 posted on 02/19/2014 8:46:22 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

ROTFLOL


15 posted on 02/19/2014 8:46:32 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

Thank you


16 posted on 02/19/2014 8:46:49 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: F15Eagle

Just use the 8.1 for a few days and you will come to like it, google any tweaks that you want to make, for instance to go straight to desktop instead of the tiles, or how to change settings on the corners, etc.

I like my tile page now, since I got rid of what i don’t want and use it like desktop icons, I rarely access it.


17 posted on 02/19/2014 8:49:07 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: F15Eagle

Windows 8.1 is cool, and different. It is built to support touch. Is yours a touch screen? The key to surviving is to be open to it - adapting to drastic changes to UI/UX is not easy, but those changes are usually made with a whole lot of thought.


18 posted on 02/19/2014 8:49:17 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda; KosmicKitty

Thanks - yeah I like 7 Home Premium on my desktop.

I FReep mostly on this machine but this machine I’m gonna skinny down to just the OS with none of the bloatware (it’s my Vista machine).

It used to be fairly decent - it does have 17” monitor which I like in a laptop.

The new one is a low-cost alternative to this one and my 7 machine is having problems - hopefully not hardware but it’s acting up.

Will BBL for rest of thread.


19 posted on 02/19/2014 8:49:27 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: andyk; ansel12

Thanks - no, no touch capability - but the mouse is A-OK for me.

BBL


20 posted on 02/19/2014 8:50:20 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: F15Eagle

Just stick to the desktop, which is pretty much like Win7.

Supposedly a “boot to desktop” option is coming.


21 posted on 02/19/2014 8:51:25 PM PST by ltc8k6
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To: F15Eagle
does it look something like this:

lol

22 posted on 02/19/2014 8:51:41 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: F15Eagle

I got a 8.1 laptop for my wife the other week. Some hints:

Plan on spending some time learning. And don’t expect things to be how they used to be. Give up on the “Why did they...” thoughts and just adapt.

Keep your receipt if you don’t like it.

Keep it away from open windows, fire places, or hard surfaces.

Keep you firearms locked up.

After a couple of weeks and me taking the effort to figure out how to do stuff on it my wife is using it okay. But I was losing my cool too - with her impatience mainly.

“It won’t even let me print from a website, this is stupid. I’m using your old computer.”

A google search that I did of “how do I print from a website on Windows 8.1?” solved the problem easily. But it sure doesn’t come easy or intuitive to learn imho.


23 posted on 02/19/2014 8:51:44 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: F15Eagle

The only issues I have had with Windows 8 is that my bluetooth that came with the PC was not compatible with the Windows 8 updates, which caused my computer to take 5 minutes to shut down, no one could figure out why it was doing that, then I went on the Dell forum and was told that particular update caused the problem(Not even Dell tech support knew what it was, they were all DUH we dont know) so I removed the update and its been fine ever since. The StartIsBack app is great, do some research about it its great, once you have it installed you wont have to worry about those annoying tiles again


24 posted on 02/19/2014 8:52:35 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: F15Eagle; GeronL
Go directly and unload windows #8
GO DIRECTLY TO WINDOWS #7
Anything that windows has in an 'even number' is WONKEY !!
Do: either load Windows 7 ,... or await Windows #9(until they get it right !!)
25 posted on 02/19/2014 8:54:10 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: F15Eagle

The tiles is the interface from Idiocracy.


26 posted on 02/19/2014 8:55:12 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: F15Eagle

What I’m trying to find is a while back somebody posted an URL for a site that provides maintenance patches, etc for older Windows Operating systems.

I visited the site and got the distinct impression it was run by a bunch of ex-MS engineers, people with some reputation.

Didn’t bookmark it! Dang!

I’m not super worried about Apr 8th... but whether I’m worried or not, it is coming!


27 posted on 02/19/2014 8:55:34 PM PST by djf (OK. Well, now, lemme try to make this clear: If you LIKE your lasagna, you can KEEP your lasagna!)
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To: ltc8k6

With 8.1 it is easy peasy to boot directly to the desktop.

http://www.howtogeek.com/166445/how-to-skip-the-start-screen-and-boot-to-the-desktop-in-windows-8.1/


28 posted on 02/19/2014 8:55:35 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (This is not just stupid, we're talking Democrat stupid here.)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

Good, I have 8.1 but was not aware they’d already added the option.


29 posted on 02/19/2014 9:00:22 PM PST by ltc8k6
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To: F15Eagle

I go an HP laptop about a year ago that has Windows 8 on it. There is one of those little squares, when I click on it, it allows me to work it just like my Windows 7. I never did figure out all the other squares, except to play solitaire games. :-(


30 posted on 02/19/2014 9:00:41 PM PST by Spunky (BIG GOVERNMENT MAKES SMALLER CITIZENS.)
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To: F15Eagle

Classic Shell


31 posted on 02/19/2014 9:00:58 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Hated Win8 for about 2 weeks.

Then I liked it.

8.1 is a nice improvement.

I have Win7 on my work computer, and I like both equally now.


32 posted on 02/19/2014 9:02:08 PM PST by ltc8k6
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To: F15Eagle

I will never buy another HP laptop. Ever.

Next computer I will buy is a Mac.

By this time, windows could have managed to have virus free software, but they don’t.


33 posted on 02/19/2014 9:04:31 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: ltc8k6
ltc8k6:" I have Win7 on my work computer, and I like both equally now.

Good !! .. and GOD Bless !!
ME ... not so much !!

34 posted on 02/19/2014 9:06:55 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

If you have it boot to the desktop, it’s really pretty much just like Win7.


35 posted on 02/19/2014 9:11:56 PM PST by ltc8k6
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To: F15Eagle

Well, it should make good target practice...


36 posted on 02/19/2014 9:32:40 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: F15Eagle

You get what you pay for. And $350.00 for an HP laptop with Windows 8.x buys you a junk-quality laptop.

Take it back for a refund and buy something that will last longer than a year. HP is THE WORST possible laptop you could have bought. Square Trade lists HP laptops as having more catastrophic failures during the first one year and first three years than any other brand. This is consistent with what I’ve seen in my own PC repair business.

Buy a Dell refurb E5530 Latitude instead: i5 processor, 500GB 7200 rpm HD, 4GB RAM, DVD+-R/W

Any other advice to you is a waste of my time if you’re intent on sticking with a $350.00 HP laptop with Windows 8.x. All I can say is you’re going to end up regretting it.


37 posted on 02/19/2014 9:33:59 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: F15Eagle

PC’s are on their last leg!The prices even for used PC’s are dropping like a rock on ebay thanks to windows OPS.


38 posted on 02/19/2014 9:45:47 PM PST by plainshame
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To: F15Eagle

Too late for you, but there are actually more new Win7 systems available now than a year ago. For a while it was hard to find them, but Microsoft has caved in and is allowing OEMs to offer new Win7 systems.


39 posted on 02/19/2014 9:47:11 PM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: catnipman

i have both the Dell 5530 and the HP probook 4520s - the HP served me well over a 18 month v- at MS, and i use the Dell on my current v-.

Win 7 Enterprise on one and Win 7 Pro on the other. unless coding on the bleeding edge of .net, 7 is fine. you need 8
if developing using the Win 8 SDK.


40 posted on 02/19/2014 9:49:47 PM PST by RitchieAprile
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To: F15Eagle
Upgrade to 8.1, set the thing to boot to the desktop, and settle in. That hardware will run 8.1 perfectly well. If you want to think about a cost-effective upgrade (and who doesn't love tweaking computers?) you might consider a 240-GB SSD. They're under $0.50 a GB if you wait for a special. That will make a marginal lappy scream.

Two things will make Win8.1 a better experience. One is knowing that pressing the Windows key and the X key (when you're on the Desktop) brings up a nice start menu, and the other is right-clicking on the Start icon will do the same. It isn't quite a Start button but it's enough to go with.

I've gotten used to 8.1 enough to no longer be put back by its quirks.

41 posted on 02/19/2014 9:51:09 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: F15Eagle

bought my son one last weekend and he is playing his old games on it. Can’t be too bad.


42 posted on 02/19/2014 9:53:57 PM PST by huldah1776
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To: F15Eagle
Since ex post facto advice won't do you much good, let's hope your new purchase works to your satisfaction and you get some enjoyment from it.

I normally enjoy the tech discussion threads in here, but in this one it's like a lot of normally decent people taking a twisted delight in telling an excited kid how much his/her new Chistmas present is gonna suck.

It's actually rather sad, imho.

43 posted on 02/19/2014 9:54:48 PM PST by tomkat
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To: F15Eagle

Download and install Classic Shell (free) to bring back the start menu, makes using it much less annoying.


44 posted on 02/19/2014 9:56:04 PM PST by KEVLAR (Liberty or Death)
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To: F15Eagle

Microsoft Word and Excell have driven our office mad as not all computers have the same version and working on one computer then another causes docs to not open

Saving new docs in the old formats is what we did for a while but now

all computers are loaded with a word / spreadshett program called “LIBRE”

its Free - it works great and none of us use microsoft now.

Im not an expert I but like what our office has done to give the middle finger to Microsoft


45 posted on 02/19/2014 10:04:04 PM PST by jcon40
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“Get Linux”

Heh, heh...

Certainly a viable option if the laptop was a decade old and running XP. Not such a good thing on a brand-new still under warranty box.

Due to my personal loathing of anything WinAte, I would only buy a machine with WinAte on it if a major cat-astrophy killed off ALL of my machines and a WinAte device was the only remaining unit in the world.. (Translate: never)

But now that you do have it (WinAte that is), along with the assorted persons who would suggest that you need a couple shots of a heavy-duty antibiotic to cure your problem, there are a lot of blogs/forums/techie-stuff with more suggestions on how to 'improve' (or is that 'fix') WinAte than you will be reasonably able to try/test/verify in your lifetime. Do a lot of reading first, then apply whichever 'fixes' seem to move WinAte more toward what YOU want it to do (as opposed to BalmerGates vision of what they want you to think you want it to do.) And don't get too carried away with changes until the warranty is up so HP can't blame any nonsalubrious manifestations on you. ;-)

And periodically give us an update on what you've done since you DID venture down the road that I and probably many others are avoiding.

In the meantime, I have two Win XP laptops to rescue from WinXP-EOL, so no brandy-new stuff here for the foreseeable future.. The newest XP laptop will end up with Win7, and I am so confident that will work that I left it for last. The oldest which probably could have been made to run WIn7, was so hardware-challenged that I chose to try to, and now after a whole lot of finegeling succeeded to, make it a Linux laptop. Still some rough spots with it, but now I'm pretty confident it will work out.

46 posted on 02/19/2014 10:04:17 PM PST by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: tomkat

I had a buddy like that. If you bought a new car he would go over it with a magnifying glass to find some blemish or something wrong with it. I guess that’s how some people get their jollies.


47 posted on 02/19/2014 10:10:35 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (This is not just stupid, we're talking Democrat stupid here.)
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To: F15Eagle

Get used to having the Fisher-Price interface.

I like it but I like 7 better.

I have to use it because my clients use it.

When you get through the learning curve, it will be a good thing especially since you have the 8.1 version already.

It works much better with a tablet but using a touch mouse helps too.

I think you’ll like it.


48 posted on 02/19/2014 10:16:13 PM PST by Only1choice____Freedom (As long as America's tolerence of failure is not overwhelmed by a desire to succeed, we will fail.)
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To: NoCmpromiz

bump


49 posted on 02/19/2014 10:20:26 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: F15Eagle

Just burn it


50 posted on 02/19/2014 10:31:56 PM PST by Nifster
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