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VW workers may block southern U.S. deals if no unions: labor chief
Reuters ^ | Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:38am EST | Andreas Cremer

Posted on 02/20/2014 1:44:36 PM PST by Olog-hai

Volkswagen’s top labor representative threatened on Wednesday to try to block further investments by the German carmaker in the southern United States if its workers there are not unionized.

Workers at VW’s factory in Chattanooga, Tennessee, last Friday voted against representation by the United Auto Workers union (UAW), rejecting efforts by VW representatives to set up a German-style works council at the plant.

German workers enjoy considerable influence over company decisions under the legally enshrined “co-determination” principle which is anathema to many politicians in the U.S. who see organized labor as a threat to profits and job growth. …

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KEYWORDS: tennessee; uaw; volkswagen; workscouncil
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1 posted on 02/20/2014 1:44:36 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Unions by law have representation on corporate boards in Germany. Hence they can stop VW from putting any more plants in the South if they don’t like the outcome of this election.


2 posted on 02/20/2014 1:45:56 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Olog-hai

Switch to Toyota production. We’ll stop buying VW’s in the south and see how they like that.


3 posted on 02/20/2014 1:46:39 PM PST by TStro (Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.)
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To: Olog-hai
Only weirdos drive VWs anyway.
4 posted on 02/20/2014 1:48:40 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to behead anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Good old social market economy. Of course the “work councils” would prefer no overseas workers if they can’t get money out of them. VW being in third place sales-wise makes their position precarious, though, and the government can step in and put them in their place (whoops).


5 posted on 02/20/2014 1:49:14 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

I hate German Communists. By trying to peddle this union crap in the South, I hope they are met with violent opposition, if it is needed. They can build their next plant in Hell.


6 posted on 02/20/2014 1:49:49 PM PST by ohioman
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To: Olog-hai

Wasn’t VW Hitlers little innovation?


7 posted on 02/20/2014 1:49:51 PM PST by amnestynone (Lindsey Graham is feckless, duplicitous, treacherous, double dealing backstabbing Corksucker.)
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To: Olog-hai

Well it only took a week for the union to resort to the next level of mob tactics.

They’ll force unions on these workers one way or another.


8 posted on 02/20/2014 1:49:53 PM PST by kidd
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To: amnestynone

Ferdinand Porsche, actually. Of course, when Adolf took over and called the car the “KdF-Wagen”, then it became a state affair.


9 posted on 02/20/2014 1:52:18 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: TStro
Toyota. Honda. Nissan. Hyundai. Kia. Lots of choices to buy their plant and equipment for pennies on the dollar. Some of the workers who are not disposed to union blackmail might even get to keep their jobs.

Last I checked, all five aforementioned companies are operating every U.S. plant at or near 100% capacity.

10 posted on 02/20/2014 1:54:14 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Olog-hai

Time to take the union thugs out and give them a good pummeling.

Sorry, but it is the only thing they understand.


11 posted on 02/20/2014 1:54:45 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Insurgent Conservative)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I’m not exactly sure German Unions are much like UAW.
I could be wrong though.

Germans tend to value craftsmanship and create programs for workers to become masters in their fields.
UAW is all about power and control.


12 posted on 02/20/2014 1:56:49 PM PST by Zathras
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To: Olog-hai

“And I’m gonna take my ball and go home and tell my Mommy!”


13 posted on 02/20/2014 1:57:06 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I’d buy a Schwimmwagen if I could find one for a reasonable sum. Or a bus or a Kombi, take it apart and build a Pookie.

And if you know off the top of your head what any of that is, then you’re as weird as I am. :-)


14 posted on 02/20/2014 2:00:42 PM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: TStro; Olog-hai

I doubt that union workers will be making these:

Elio Motors and the Three Wheeled Car - A Moonshot Project ($6800, 84 mpg)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3119736/posts


15 posted on 02/20/2014 2:01:08 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

VW has been providing the turbo Diesel small car technology in the US for the last ~20 years that the domestics claim the peeps don’t want.


16 posted on 02/20/2014 2:02:30 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Olog-hai

Sent this letter to VW.

My husband and I bought a VW Passat TDI. We were glad to hear that the union did not win in the south. Now VW home office says they might not want to build cars in south if union doesn’t get in? If they want to get into US politics, maybe we should no longer buy VW’s. Please express our concern.


17 posted on 02/20/2014 2:03:05 PM PST by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: Riley
Questionable:

"According to Trevor Davies Engineering, manufacturer of the Pookie, "...of the 76 vehicles built between 1976 and 1980 none ever detonated a mine, though 12 were lost and two drivers were killed."[1] Remotely detonated mines were responsible for the loss of the 12 vehicles and one of the fatalities, though it is not clear[to whom?] if the remaining fatality, caused by an RPG, also resulted in the loss of vehicle and if that loss was included in the previous count."

18 posted on 02/20/2014 2:04:57 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Remember the Messerschmitt KR-175? Also a three-wheel bubble car; got about 64 mpg, but top speed was only 50 mph.


19 posted on 02/20/2014 2:05:08 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Remember that Volkswagen was a child, originally, of the Third Reich, and as such, being the “People’s Car”, it was only right it should be assembled by “the People”, which in German bureaucratese, meant “Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei”, abbreviated as NSDAP, but most popularly known as “Nazi”.

The Third Reich integrated all the labor unions into arms of the regime, and used the predisposition of the German people and their allegiance to the soil of Germany to further make the demand upon the “Volken” to see the subjugation of ALL the workers (”Arbeiter”) to the greater good of the State.

Even after the humbling defeat of the Third Reich, in their hearts, Germans still see organized unions as the salvation of their secular lives. Is it genetic or something?


20 posted on 02/20/2014 2:07:22 PM PST by alloysteel (Obamacare - Death and Taxes now available online. One-stop shopping at its best!)
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To: kidd
They’ll force unions on these workers one way or another.

Decisions are only final when conservatives lose. When liberals lose, they are allowed to keep voting for the same thing over and over. Until they win. Then it's final.
21 posted on 02/20/2014 2:07:37 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

their stylings are rather old and unimpressive compared to other brands.


22 posted on 02/20/2014 2:07:48 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Olog-hai
Why can't our Republican leaders learn how not to take No for an answer?

-PJ

23 posted on 02/20/2014 2:09:44 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Linda Frances
Volkswagen’s top labor representative threatened on Wednesday to try to block further investments by the German carmaker in the southern United States if its workers there are not unionized.

It looks like it's the union saying that, rather than the company.

I can't imagine the company itself insisting on the corrosive influence of the UAW before it will deign to open a plant in a Right-to Work state.

24 posted on 02/20/2014 2:10:06 PM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: Paladin2

more to it than that.

fedgov got involved in dealing with small car diesels b/c too many would siphon off too much diesel that truckers use. you don’ t put ethanol in diesel. lots of interests have quashed any move to commonplace large numbers of commuter diesel vehicles.

otherwise it’d be fantastic.


25 posted on 02/20/2014 2:11:04 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Zathras

Have to agree - the model for Union organizations in Germany is not one of force. The company gets as much out of it as the workers in that co-operation and high standards of workmanship and training are written into enterprise agreements. Pathways to better jobs are available for those willing to up skill and it is all done with typical German efficiency. Nothing like the antagonistic relationships between Unions and Business that a lot of western countries have. I’m not sure the UAW Union really want to go there as it will make them look bad indeed!


26 posted on 02/20/2014 2:11:55 PM PST by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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To: Paladin2

I just wanted the thing as a daily driver.

You might be able to mod the shoestring-engineered cab to be survivable in a command-detonated environment though, without compromising that ever-so-sweet virtually-nonexistent ground pressure unduly.

Oh- that, and some chain link panels on frames for the RPG.


27 posted on 02/20/2014 2:16:11 PM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

If they make good money, which they probably will, they will change their minds about curtailing future investments.


28 posted on 02/20/2014 2:16:33 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Olog-hai

The company says that the vehicle will cost $6800, achieve an 84 miles per gallon fuel economy, and they anticipate a five star NHTSA safety rating. The eight gallon tank will theoretically allow a driver to go 672 miles on a tank of gas. Top speed of the Elio is said to be over 100 miles per hour.


29 posted on 02/20/2014 2:16:40 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Olog-hai
My line of thought runs a bit different here. This is a very important vote not because of how VW thinks about more auto plants here but because of how the rest of the foreign auto companies view it.

This maintains the right to work non union atmosphere of the south. I believe that other auto makers will build plants in that area because of this decision.

I do not see how anything that VW now claims about this decision has any further relevance. They are not going to close a plant that is already built, in production, and making them money.

This is one more lesson to the liberals that clearly demonstrates that we are not Europe and not going to be either.

This whole line of crap in the media is nothing more than the leftist socialist lies and spin of the UAW after it lost a vote that was gift wrapped and handed to them on a silver platter.

What this vote says is that the auto workers themselves have chosen to not let the UAW do to them what it did to the auto industry and to the workers in Detroit, Flint, and other cities. In those places the UAW took their own members money and then caused them to loose their jobs. The union hierarchy got filthy mega-rich and the out of work union members got food stamps and poverty.

This is why the UAW is dieing.

30 posted on 02/20/2014 2:18:22 PM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“Only weirdos drive VWs anyway. “

Uhm, yeah. I love my Jetta TDI Sportwagen. It gets a good, honest 40 mpg combined. But if they go union I won’t buy another. I guess I’ll end up getting and old, used 300D as my next car.


31 posted on 02/20/2014 2:19:18 PM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: Olog-hai

This is pretty decent evidence of collusion between the VW German union and the UAW.


32 posted on 02/20/2014 2:19:44 PM PST by tanknetter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have been watching the development of that.

It seems to be a cross between an nineteen eighties B. D. Lightstar and a BMW Isetta.


33 posted on 02/20/2014 2:20:26 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Ford have been working on direct gas injection ilo Diesel since the 70's if not the late 60's.

http://papers.sae.org/780699/

Now it sounds like they finally put something in production (Eco-boost).

Ford have had small car Diesels in Europe for many years (decades?). Here in the US?; Not so much.

Now that Diesel has gone to really low Sulphur, the fuel prices have reversed so that gas is cheaper than Diesel/BTU.

34 posted on 02/20/2014 2:21:05 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Olog-hai

please Germany, Japan, Korea, etc....don’t bother coming here....we have an ungrateful evil greedy and criminal system and you’ll be under their thumb to your demise...


35 posted on 02/20/2014 2:22:21 PM PST by cherry
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To: Linda Frances

My TDI Station Wagons came from Germany. Now we have the US Jetta, but with no Station Wagon. No sale here.


36 posted on 02/20/2014 2:23:09 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Olog-hai
As the Worker's Council Reps are a part of management(unlike Senator Corker), I'm pretty sure that those statements were a violation of the Taft Hartley Act:

There are six types of unfair trade practices listed in Section 8:
1. Section 8 (a)(1) - to interfere with, restrain, or coerce employees in the exercise of rights guaranteed in Section 7:
2. Section 8(a)(2) - to dominate or interfere with the formation or administration of a union, or contribute financial or other support to it;
3. Section 8(a)(3) — by discrimination in regard to hire or tenure of employment, to encourage or discourage membership in any union;
4. Section 8(a)(4) - to discharge or otherwise discriminate against an employee because he has filed charges or given testimony under the Act;
5. Section 8(a)(5) - to refuse to bargain collectively with a union selected by a majority of the employees in an appropriate bargaining unit;
6. Section 8(e) - to enter into a “hot-cargo” agreement with a union.

People should call the VW management out on it, like the left tried to do with Senator Corker.
37 posted on 02/20/2014 2:23:52 PM PST by Blackyce (French President Jacques Chirac: "As far as I'm concerned, war alwaysmeans failure.")
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To: Riley

Tough neighbourhood! Near Kandahar is it?


38 posted on 02/20/2014 2:25:10 PM PST by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind, but now I see...)
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian
Tough neighbourhood! Near Kandahar is it?

Close. Washington DC area.

39 posted on 02/20/2014 2:26:26 PM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: Paladin2

yup, but the problem here is that there’s only a certain amount of diesel fuel capacity and fedgov wants most of that for truckers.

ecoboost isnt a diesel invention, it’s an option on most of their fleet - gas fuel.


40 posted on 02/20/2014 2:27:19 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Olog-hai

I would never buy a VW, union or not.


41 posted on 02/20/2014 2:27:44 PM PST by PGR88
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To: Olog-hai

What, now the owners of the company are going to force people to join a union?

I don’t see that flying in any right to work state.


42 posted on 02/20/2014 2:27:57 PM PST by jocon307
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To: Riley

I can understand a Kombi and even a Schwimmwagen, but a Pookie? WOW! Those ‘yoots’ in DC have become VERY sophisticated!


43 posted on 02/20/2014 2:30:45 PM PST by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind, but now I see...)
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian

Actually, I like it more for the widespread puzzlement it’d cause. Probably getting great mileage is an added bonus.


44 posted on 02/20/2014 2:33:58 PM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“Hence they can stop VW from putting any more plants in the South if they don’t like the outcome of this election.”

Well, sucks to be them, then. In the meantime, Toyota and Hyundai can keep making (more relialble than VW) cars with their hard-working, relatively content US workers. I don’t see a problem here.


45 posted on 02/20/2014 2:34:52 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Secret Agent Man
"fedgov wants most of that for truckers."

Diesel and heating oil used primarily in the NE are essentially the same product.

46 posted on 02/20/2014 2:36:56 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Olog-hai

as the next dictator, I’d tell VW to go home; there are more than enough world automakers who would take over their Chattanooga plant


47 posted on 02/20/2014 2:37:08 PM PST by Wuli
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To: Riley

Both the Schwimmwagen and the Pookie would a little chilly in the winter!


48 posted on 02/20/2014 2:43:45 PM PST by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind, but now I see...)
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian
Both the Schwimmwagen and the Pookie would a little chilly in the winter!

Fair point. I'd consideration of that, I'd ridiculously over-engineer the cab climate control.

49 posted on 02/20/2014 2:46:48 PM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

>> Hence they can stop VW from putting any more plants in the South

Won’t stop Nissan, Toyota, Kia, Hyundai...

Suck it, Volkswagen. Go ahead and lose to your right-thinking competition. After all, you’re not a business so much as a social welfare org.


50 posted on 02/20/2014 3:06:05 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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