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US Navy SEALs On Power Grid Attack: ‘A Carbon Copy’ of How We Would Do It
SHTF Plan ^ | 2/19/14 | Mac Slavo

Posted on 02/20/2014 4:16:49 PM PST by Kartographer

US Navy Seals have said it is a carbon copy of how they would carry out such an operation.

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1 posted on 02/20/2014 4:16:49 PM PST by Kartographer
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To: Kartographer

Krystalnacht preparation?


2 posted on 02/20/2014 4:22:29 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Kartographer

Thanks for letting me know.

The secret’s safe with me. I won’t tell anyone.


3 posted on 02/20/2014 4:22:53 PM PST by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: Kartographer

I remember way back in the 60s or maybe early 70s. William F. Buckley mentioned how vulnerable we are to terror attacks on our power grids, reservoirs etc. He used a term for it which I have forgotten.

It is amazing how little we actually have suffered.


4 posted on 02/20/2014 4:24:23 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: Kartographer

Or anyone else with a brain. Why sneak into a place when rifles can reach out more than a mile? Also, I think the DC snipers were a trial run. Watch and see.


5 posted on 02/20/2014 4:24:50 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: yarddog

” He used a term for it which I have forgotten.”

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He probably used a term that I would have had to look up in the dictionary.:-)

He was fantastic.

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6 posted on 02/20/2014 4:28:10 PM PST by Mears
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To: Kartographer
HaH! Navy Seals would have to go to the gym to work out first, then they'd have to tan and make sure their 'do was up to Seal standards, sign a movie and a couple book contracts. Then maybe....just maybe....they'd service the target with something smaller than a 16-inch naval gun.

Caveat-former SF here :)

7 posted on 02/20/2014 4:30:09 PM PST by Sarajevo (Two cannibals are eating a clown. One says to the other: "Does this taste funny to you?")
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To: Mears

I don’t think this is the correct word but it was something like “Flow Technology”.

He was probably too smart to use such a simple word tho.


8 posted on 02/20/2014 4:30:19 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: Sarajevo

LOL.


9 posted on 02/20/2014 4:33:25 PM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Sarajevo

And gel their hair
:-)


10 posted on 02/20/2014 4:40:55 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Kartographer

This was a well planned attack and not the actions of some random nut. My only question is why did they only use high powered rifles? Wouldn’t some type of explosive be more effective? Imagine the havoc if they had been armed with RPGs.


11 posted on 02/20/2014 4:42:49 PM PST by The Great RJ
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To: Kartographer

Sorry.

This is nothing mkre than the same BS I have observed for 30 years.

The lines between San Jose and Morgan Hill, even as far south as the MDF or CO in Salinas have been cut by vandals every couple years.

The Metcalf power substation has been similarly vandalized.

The lines in the Oakland are also cut for a variety of reasons related to vandals and backhoes.

There really isn’t anything to be alarmed about on this issue, in this area.

I believe these same areas were attacked around 2006/7 at which time I took an interest in ham radio but, it’s happened many times before.

Oh, and the circuits are not hidden. The right of way diagrams are online. You can Google them.

I won’t say where as I am bound by agreement but, they are publicly accessable.

However, as always, Be Prepared


12 posted on 02/20/2014 4:45:14 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: The Great RJ

Maybe some transformer company or union electrical workers decided they needed some extra cash.


13 posted on 02/20/2014 4:47:10 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Liberty or Big Government - you can't have both.)
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14 posted on 02/20/2014 4:47:15 PM PST by RedMDer
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To: The Great RJ

“Wouldn’t some type if explosive be more effective?”

The question answers itself....


15 posted on 02/20/2014 4:47:29 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Kartographer

napy janet of the infamous DHS said it WAS GOING TO HAPPEN!
Then she quit.
Looks to me like the false flag team BOOTED THEIR ROUND.
Government ops in the UNITED STATES.
See it goes to show you. THIS GOVERNMENT FAILED


16 posted on 02/20/2014 4:57:52 PM PST by Tigen (I shall raise you one .)
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To: Sarajevo

Spoken like a true Green Beanie. Wasamatta? D-boys turn ya down?


17 posted on 02/20/2014 5:02:41 PM PST by Mathews (Ecclesiastes 10:2 (NIV), Luke 22:36 (NIV))
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To: Kartographer

Kinda related and funny as hell!

Warning some harsh language.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XlH7as17tc


18 posted on 02/20/2014 5:28:03 PM PST by TsonicTsunami08
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To: Kartographer

They would fail?


19 posted on 02/20/2014 5:30:08 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: TsonicTsunami08

Cute girl!


20 posted on 02/20/2014 5:47:57 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: The Great RJ
Wouldn’t some type of explosive be more effective?

I don't know about you, but I don't play anywhere near substations lest they reach out and touch me. May we be more vigilant in regard to those who would physically harm our infrastructure than we have been with those who would redefine our Constitution.

21 posted on 02/20/2014 6:20:03 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: yarddog
I remember way back in the 60s or maybe early 70s. William F. Buckley mentioned how vulnerable we are to terror attacks on our power grids, reservoirs etc. He used a term for it which I have forgotten.
It is amazing how little we actually have suffered.

I LOVED listening to him. He ALWAYS used a word I had never heard of before.
When getting interviewed he was asked if he had EVER taken public transportation. He said no. He was asked, "Never?" He answered, "Well, everyone has a lacuna in his life."

Lol. Whaaaaaa? I did look it up and it's a great word, 100% appropriate for his meaning.
Lacuna (pl. lacunas or lacunae) may refer to:
Lacuna (manuscripts), a missing section of text
Lacuna (music), an extended silence in a piece of music
Lacuna (linguistics), a lexical gap in a language
Lacuna (law), the lack of a law or legal source addressing a situation
Lacuna (histology), a small space containing an osteocyte in bone or chondrocyte in cartilage
Lacuna (comics), a fictional Marvel Comics superhero The Lacuna, a 2009 novel by Barbara Kingsolver Lacuna, Inc., a fictional company in Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Lacuna, a character in Xanth by Piers Anthony
Lacunary function, in mathematics
Jessie Lacuna, a Filipino swimmer
Lacuna (film), a 2012 film

Whodda thunk?

22 posted on 02/20/2014 6:22:42 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: Kartographer

Breaking news! After the attack on the electric Grid, NERC, FERC, BERT and ERNIE will find some Reliability Coordinator guilty of something.

Called in at the last possibility to share in the blame.


23 posted on 02/20/2014 6:28:51 PM PST by hadaclueonce (Because Brawndo's got electrolytes. Because Ethanol has Big Corn Lobby)
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To: cloudmountain

He was also a pretty good writer of fiction. I have his book “Red Hunter” about the McCarthy era. Gives a different view of McCarthy than you get from the regular media.


24 posted on 02/20/2014 6:49:51 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: Vendome

“The lines in the Oakland are also cut for a variety of reasons related to vandals and backhoes.”

Ohhhhh....backhoes.

Will leave it at that.


25 posted on 02/20/2014 7:11:14 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Insurgent Conservative)
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To: Vendome

Do they always cut the telecom lines before the vandals go after the power lines? Do they use spotters and determine ranges and best shooting positions before they vandalizes these lines? If they do then you guys must have some very sophisticated vandals and that would worry me just as much.


26 posted on 02/20/2014 9:19:18 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Do reAl terrorists shoot at a sub station?

I get your viewpoint but, hope you understand myeexperience and how I arrive at mine.

This almost like a naturally occurring weather experience

there are reasons why....


27 posted on 02/20/2014 11:44:56 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Vendome

No Pi$$ contest meant, if you mean that this might be pratice for a ‘flase flag’ I am in agreement that is certainly a good possiblity.

But this wasn’t a bunch of bored ‘yutes’ nor was it a group of drunk ‘rednecks’ and it wasn’t some gang bangers looking for respect or to mark their territory.

Someone put some thought into this. They purposely ran with a cheap and simple plan, because those are the ones that usually work. ‘James Bond Dr. No’ plans usually fail or are found out. As I have reminded people before look what was accompished with some plane tickets and some box knives.


28 posted on 02/21/2014 9:41:53 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

We’ve found in the past it has been disgruntled contractors(employees) or Union guys.

I’m not ready to jump on the false flag scenario for this.

Again, 30 years of experience in this field.

Early 90’s and I work for a little company that wholesales wireless backup to Splint(yeah Splint. I have reasons dating back to 1984 why we call them that) ATT and a few other companies.

Constantly heard about cuts through ATT & Splint and we’d call em, show them our routing, hook em in with a partner company “MFS”, who co-lo’d in the same office suite(a plexiglass window demarcated our distrubution sites) and these companies were already interconnected to MFS or we could find paths at various telecom hotels or CO’s.

Maybe there was a false flag but, it seems lame to cut some fiber down one manhole. I can think of better ways than that on those same routes.

I’d light up the MDF, some DLSAM’s and blow up termination blocks, pour gas on them and have a cigarette.

Cutting a fiber line is more of an annoyance anymore.

We got machines that put em back together.

As for using a substation for target practice?

Wouldn’t it be more fun and completely more damaging to make your own chaf from tin foil and blast a bunch of that all over?

More like some drunk or retard.


29 posted on 02/21/2014 10:42:40 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Vendome
"Maybe there was a false flag but, it seems lame to cut some fiber down one manhole. I can think of better ways than that on those same routes."

And there you have presented one reason I think as I do; Someone in the 'business' would have done a much better job.
30 posted on 02/21/2014 10:51:43 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: yarddog
He was also a pretty good writer of fiction. I have his book “Red Hunter” about the McCarthy era. Gives a different view of McCarthy than you get from the regular media.

From the Internet: The Redhunter: A Novel Based on the Life of Senator Joe McCarthy by Buckley, William F. (Dec 19, 2009).

I might buy this book. Buckley was such a good writer.
Did you like the book?

31 posted on 02/21/2014 4:07:32 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

Yes it was readable. Not great but pretty good. Although it was a novel it did give a bit of history.


32 posted on 02/21/2014 4:10:20 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: yarddog
"Pretty good" is just about all we can get these days. Sad commentary. But, I may just be getting OLD.

I was a history minor (U.S. and European history) in college. I still have that same interest in it.
History is so very, very, very important in that is explains WHO we are and WHY we are the way we are. How important is that for us to know? [Rhetorical.]

33 posted on 02/21/2014 4:14:51 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: Mathews
D-boys took all of our missions back in GW1. It seems that their own mission profile was rather limited so they had to do something to justify their existence. Now, they guard General Officers.

BTW- The average Seal isn't considered Teir-1.

34 posted on 02/22/2014 8:39:30 AM PST by Sarajevo (Two cannibals are eating a clown. One says to the other: "Does this taste funny to you?")
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To: Vendome; Kartographer
I just wanted to mention that the technique of shooting the transformers at sub-stations was taught in the SF Engineer course a few years back, along with sniping the large ceramic insulators.
Reason: While they generally don't take down an entire power grid (unless done in unison with several other attacks on other stations), they are a good confidence target for green "guerrilla's". They are generally out in the open, and have poor security.
They are also a political target since people will look to their own government to protect these assets. When they are destroyed, the government/security forces get a black eye.

If an insurgent wanted to make a quick announcement that his group was operating in the area, this is an easy way to do it.

Jus' sayin'

35 posted on 02/22/2014 8:53:32 AM PST by Sarajevo (Two cannibals are eating a clown. One says to the other: "Does this taste funny to you?")
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