Skip to comments.Ashley Wagner slams Olympic figure skating judges, calls for change
Posted on 02/21/2014 7:05:10 AM PST by NKP_Vet
SOCHI, Russia Ashley Wagner launched a withering attack on figure skating's hierarchy and the Winter Olympics judges on Thursday night after being pushed down to seventh in the ladies' individual competition.
The 22-year-old American fought back tears as she revealed her frustration and anger with the judging at the Iceberg Skating Palace and suggested that the two Russian skaters, gold medalist Adelina Sotnikova and fifth-place finisher Julia Lipnitskaia, had been given unfairly inflated scores.
"I feel gypped," said Wagner, who skated two programs without any falls and punched the air with delight at the end of her free skate.
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Agree - I couldn’t believe how low her numbers were on her long program. And no question that Kim shouldn’t won gold.
As I have posted in some of the football related threads, refs have prefs.
Recall the scandal regarding the French (IIRC) judge at the Olympics several years ago.
I would have had Kim Gold, Kerchner Silver and The Russian Bronze. Wagner should have been 5th or 6th.
Maybe they need instant replay.
Does anybody remember the '72 Olympics Gold Medal Basketball Game?
“As I have posted in some of the football related threads, refs have prefs”.
After Russian was taken out of the Hockey medal contention, this was to be expected. The two biggest events of the Winter Olympics are figure skating and hockey. Now Russian has Gold in one of them. And let’s not forget they said the other day they were cheated out of the win against the Americans when that goal was not allowed. They’re still raising hell about it.
I would have put Carolina Kostner in first.
The rules state that a goal cannot be scored when the net is not fixed in place. Since it was not, the refs really didn’t have a choice.
Pretty obvious to me that they were given inflated scores.
Kim should have one. But Ashely Wagner has never been a favorite of mine. She went through her long program in a perfunctory way, I thought, certainly without the finess of a Kim. Ashely is famous for mistake making under pressure, including the U S finals where she was fourth or fifth because of major mistakes but was chosen to go to the Olympics ahead of a skater who earned 3rd, who was not happy or felt that a fair decision. Her skate of the long program was far from her best artistically-she just didn’t make a major technical mistake.
i agree! it takes more than "no falls" to make for a clean skate... a clean program... she may not have fallen, but she was not exactly clean... she had some mistakes... and i know that a fall does not mean you automatically lose, or lose out on the gold... it all depends on the difficulty, style, etc... as it is, she almost didn't even make the team...
Part of the reason I don’t care that much for the Winter Olympics anymore.
Too many events are based on judging. I just want events where the results are objective, who is the fastest or whatever, without dealing with “style points.”
Flawless skating is not that makes the most points in this sport. A complicity of tricks and overall grace is that counts the most. So, you can lose a point at fall but gain five points at certain jump. You need to take it into account before judging.
What a sore loser are you, Ashley Wagner. That little Russian girl was fabulous, not to mention she performed an extra jump. She was the clear winner, IMO.
So you believe technical difficulty should have no impact on scoring? If just not falling is the game everyone can just do the minimum ... Doesn’t sound like much of a competition to me.
Yep, I could skate for five minutes without falling, but I don’t think I would come close to winning a Gold Medal for it. ;)
I don’t think Wagner should have medalled, but her scores seemed very low for a clean program. Kim, however, got completely ganked. I think Kim should have gotten the gold, Russian silver and Italian bronze.
Mine neither after this whine fest. She takes the gold for sour grapes and bad sportsmanship.
I’m has hetero as any guy out there but that performance was magical.
I fell in love with her.
At least McKayla after her little incident in London showed a sense of humor about it, and won over people.
GROW UP AND QUIT WHINING!!
When nothing you say will make any difference you graciously don’t say anything.
Gongradulations your attitude just ruined any chance of getting commercial success from being an olympian
She may have some valid points but she needs to shut her mouth. For starters she finished 4th in the US Nationals and they decided to bump the third place finisher to make a place for her on the olympic team. She gipped someone else’s opportunity to skate in Sochi and she should have been grateful to been given a second chance instead of sounding like a whiny primadonna.
Maybe they need instant replay.
Why? Judging in figure skating is purely opinion
Why is Wagner complaining and not any of the others???
It’s a judged sport, it lack absolutes, it’s why I don’t watch them.
That was a joke. There is no point to instant replay where there is no objective standard.
“After Russian was taken out of the Hockey medal contention, this was to be expected. The two biggest events of the Winter Olympics are figure skating “
The Russians also lost their expected gold medal in the men’s skate when their golden boy fell in warm up and withdrew and then their little prodigy girl would have won gold in the team competition but fell twice and blew it in the individual ladies skate.
There was no way the Russians weren’t going to get a gold in the ladies or men’s individual.
Judging is a very big reason that I don’t really follow figure skating or gymnastics anymore. Tired of politics trumping skill.
I'm getting guilty pleasure out of the pre-ordained winners falling short. It's happened with these women and it happened with the speed skaters. They haven't been gracious. Besides which it's real easy for someone who's too sure of themselves to fall a bit short.
So I'm not blaming the judges. Maybe having one older skater in the trio instead of three teenagers might've better prepared them for the intensity of this competition, and the nuances of how the voting goes.
There are some great stories being told. Isn't it something how most of them belong to those who are grateful for this opportunity to reach beyond expectations?
Ummm, I beleive we need a pic, or two . .
Send Tonya to have a word with them....
She can feel however she wants but it is bad form to whine about it and won’t change the outcome. Life isn’t fair and she needs to be a good sport.
Shouldn’t judge a book by its cover but after seeing her photos she looks like a pain in the ass.
I agree with you on Ashley Wagner. She is not a favorite of mine either. She has no room whatsoever to complain about feeling “gypped” when she was beaten fair and square at Nationals, but was selected for the Olympic team anyway. Mirai Nagasu can school her on getting gypped.
Yes, I whole-heartedly agree. Out of the entire bunch Carolina was the only one I truly enjoyed watching. She is a class act.
She reminds me of Tonya Harding —
It’s the Euroweenie figure skating world, kid. Get used to it.
When you take up a “sport” where it all comes down to “judging”, this is what you can expect. Quit whining about it when it doesn’t go your way.
Ashley, you didn’t even deserve to be there.
Take the loss like a man er woman
It is because of A) They are in Russian so they have home team advantage and B) it is the all gay thing that obama sent over with NBC’s help.
I said Kerchner but of course meant Kostner. I can see why you’d say that and wouldn’t have had any problem with that. I really loved her short program skate.
Indeed, her short was exquisite.
It was a pity that Gracie Gold fell, I felt that her skating was the most beautiful, the Russian winner didn’t have the same elegance as Gracie and the Italian girl.
does anyone expect America to get a fair shake at the Olympics when it comes to judging???
I'm happy to see that you used the word "event" as opposed to "sport." Don't get me wrong: While figure skaters, gymnasts, divers, ski jumpers, etc., are no doubt highly skilled, world class athletes, not all athletic events are sports.
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