Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Killing swans is a bad idea
CNN ^ | Feb 21, 2014 | Carl Safina

Posted on 02/21/2014 12:39:27 PM PST by Innovative

"Take a good look at them," I said, "because the state plans to exterminate them."

I kind of agree with the department's main reason for exterminating New York state's resident mute swans (by the way, that's the species' name, because they're usually silent).

Non-native species often pose problems. I just have two problems with the plan. One, I don't think mute swans are really too much of a threat to anything or anyone in New York state. They live mainly on Long Island and the lower Hudson, with a few on the Great Lakes. They number just around 2,200 birds, total, in the whole state. Not exactly a plague.

"Those are stupid reasons," she said, demanding to know who is planning to kill them.

I told her it's the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Local News; Outdoors; Pets/Animals; Society
KEYWORDS: conservation; environment; government; newyork; swans
More government running amok... wanting and succeeding in ruling everything.

"Comments on the draft mute swan plan may be submitted today to the NYSDEC Bureau of Wildlife, Swan Management Plan, 625 Broadway, Albany, NY 12233-4754 or by e-mail to: fwwildlf@gw.dec.state.ny.us."

1 posted on 02/21/2014 12:39:27 PM PST by Innovative
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Innovative

At least in England, the swans belong to the Queen and you daren’t touch them!


2 posted on 02/21/2014 12:42:22 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Innovative
Here are some swans with nasty dispositions that need to be exterminated:

Swan Attack!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvum2eRPXrY

3 posted on 02/21/2014 12:42:39 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Innovative
Non-native species often pose problems. I just have two problems with the plan. One, I don't think mute swans are really too much of a threat to anything or anyone in New York state.

Someone who hasn't seen one wipe out a flock of ducklings or goslings while leaving a trail of headless bodies in the water.
4 posted on 02/21/2014 12:44:35 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: fwdude

So you have one aggressive swan, that’s no reason to exterminate ALL swans.


5 posted on 02/21/2014 12:46:26 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: fwdude

I am still watching the video - the swan is not really attacking, maybe it just wants to be fed or be friends.

There was something on TV about a duck that “adopted” and followed a man and waited for him to show up every day.


6 posted on 02/21/2014 12:49:36 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Innovative

Check out some more of his videos (there are over a dozen.) No friendly intent with those swans!


7 posted on 02/21/2014 12:50:48 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: cripplecreek

“Someone who hasn’t seen one wipe out a flock of ducklings or goslings while leaving a trail of headless bodies in the water.”

Sure, one swan wipes out a flock of ducklings, eating their heads... Actually the aliens did that...


8 posted on 02/21/2014 12:52:05 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Innovative
Mute swans have made "dead" areas of the Chesapeake Bay. They eat the submerged vegetation (and have voracious appetites for it) which renders it a dead zone.

Virginia has tackled the problem by allowing the mute swans to be hunted.

They also displace native shore birds and have no natural predators.

Pretty to look at - but we should never allowed them to be imported.

9 posted on 02/21/2014 12:52:41 PM PST by Abby4116
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: fwdude

Wrong species.


10 posted on 02/21/2014 12:54:24 PM PST by dangus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Abby4116

Not an issue on Long Island. They mostly live on ponds created for the now-defunct duck-farming industry.


11 posted on 02/21/2014 12:56:49 PM PST by dangus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: afraidfortherepublic

Had a similar situation on vacation in Austria long ago...
Eating lunch by the lake and the swans came up and tried to take the food out of our hands while we were eating.

Didn’t dare swat them away because I didn’t know if I’d end up in jail over it.


12 posted on 02/21/2014 12:59:13 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Abby4116

There would probably be a hunting season on them around here but its hard to spot the difference between trumpeter swans and muties from more than a few feet away.

The DNR quietly eliminated nearly 60 of them from the lake I live on a few years back and now the population is nearly at the same level again.


13 posted on 02/21/2014 1:00:30 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: cripplecreek

“Someone who hasn’t seen one wipe out a flock of ducklings or goslings while leaving a trail of headless bodies in the water.”

Sounds like the perfect solution to the illegal alien geese from Canada and the year round ducks which are making our reservoirs vast e coli pools.

The left wing idiots in control of our drinking water reservoirs will fine a kayaker for getting their feet/boots a little wet to launch a kayak. Yet, they have zero problem with hundreds of illegal year round geese from Canada, dropping their massive amounts of goose poop each day in our drinking water reservoirs.


14 posted on 02/21/2014 1:01:18 PM PST by Grampa Dave ( Obozo Care is a Trinity of Lies! Obozo Care is probably a serious Black Swan event.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: cripplecreek

I lived on the water of Long Island for 20 years and never saw them attack anything unless it got close to one of their kids. Even then, it was to scare them away.

I have seen swans fight each other, and Canada geese will fight each other to death.


15 posted on 02/21/2014 1:05:03 PM PST by sakic
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Innovative

I told her it’s the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation.

The Enviro-NAZIs at work again.

Exterminate all non-native species.

One pair of mute swans keeps away Canada geese hords along with their poop. But I guess Cuomo likes poop. He creates so much of it when he speaks.


16 posted on 02/21/2014 1:07:55 PM PST by ZULU (Magua is sitting in the Oval Office. Ted Cruz/Phil Robertson in 2016.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: cripplecreek

If those are a bunch of Canada geese goslings, I say, go to it!!!


17 posted on 02/21/2014 1:08:36 PM PST by ZULU (Magua is sitting in the Oval Office. Ted Cruz/Phil Robertson in 2016.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Abby4116

Pretty to look at - but we should never allowed them to be imported.

I know some indians who thing the same thing about blondes.


18 posted on 02/21/2014 1:09:27 PM PST by ZULU (Magua is sitting in the Oval Office. Ted Cruz/Phil Robertson in 2016.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Abby4116

Why are mute swans a problem.

http://www.michigan.gov/documents/dnr/MuteSwanFacts_final_366761_7.pdf


19 posted on 02/21/2014 1:09:31 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Innovative

1. The government should do less, not more.

2. This guy is a dork — swans are killers.


20 posted on 02/21/2014 1:09:44 PM PST by Born to Conserve
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: cripplecreek

The same people put out something like that about hunters.

I WANT a bird that reduces goose poop. There are places in the Northeast where there are so many Canada geese, they pose a health problem.


21 posted on 02/21/2014 1:12:21 PM PST by ZULU (Magua is sitting in the Oval Office. Ted Cruz/Phil Robertson in 2016.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: Innovative
Swan meat recipes:

click here.

22 posted on 02/21/2014 1:15:12 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ZULU
The same people put out something like that about hunters.

Michigan actively encourages hunters. As far as geese are concerned, they can be and are hunted around here.
23 posted on 02/21/2014 1:16:25 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: ZULU
Pretty to look at - but we should never allowed them to be imported. I know some indians who thing the same thing about blondes.

The only thing with indians is that they came here from somewhere else before the blondes. Aint nobody spontaneously sprung from the earth in North America.

24 posted on 02/21/2014 1:30:45 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Mastador1

I have no argument. I like blondes.


25 posted on 02/21/2014 1:36:24 PM PST by ZULU (Magua is sitting in the Oval Office. Ted Cruz/Phil Robertson in 2016.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson