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New photos of bighorn lamb born north of Tucson released
Arizona Daily Star ^ | Feb. 18, 2014 | unknown

Posted on 02/22/2014 3:06:20 PM PST by Daffynition

The Arizona Game and Fish Department released new photos Friday of another lamb born in the Catalina Mountains north of Tucson.

So far, three lambs have been spotted in the Catalinas, born to bighorns relocated there from Yuma.

Game and Fish said this week that 12 of the 31 bighorns relocated have died, most being killed by mountain lions.

(Excerpt) Read more at azstarnet.com ...


TOPICS: Outdoors; Pets/Animals; Science
KEYWORDS: arizona; lamb; tucson
Cost of the program was reportedly $600,000 with no details provided. None. The media also reported that plans for the project had been underway for a year.

Two weeks ago, helicopters firing nets captured 31 bighorn sheep in the mountains near Yuma, 240 miles to the west. The bighorns were examined by vets and transported to the Catalinas, where they were released with satellite tracking collars. Two days ago, the local media announced that two of the bighorns have already been killed and eaten by mountain lions, which falls squarely in the “what did you expect” and “that didn’t take long” categories.

It gets worse. The two “guilty” mountain lions were tracked down and shot for killing the two sheep. A Forest Ranger killed one of the lions, and the hunter in the other case was a private citizen hired to kill the other lion. Both lions were found next to the bodies of their prey. Duh, that was difficult, wasn’t it? Just to make sure they had the right lions, an autopsy was performed, and sure enough, sheep parts were found in the digestive tracts of each one. Double duh. I breathed a sigh of relief when I read that because I would have been heartbroken had an “innocent” lion been killed.

It is difficult to wrap my mind around this insane (and that’s the correct word) program. No rational human being ANYWHERE could possibly support it, yet it happened. And will continue to happen, according to a spokesperson for Arizona Game and Fish, who said just yesterday, “We’re in this for the long run.”

Here’s the kicker. Bighorn sheep disappeared from the Catalinas in 1992, when the last one was seen there. Why? The mountain lions ate them, that’s why. The sheep were thriving in the nasty, barren mountains near Yuma because there are no lions in those mountains. But mountain lions THRIVE in the Catalinas because there is plenty of game, especially deer. Occasionally, one of the lions will wander down into the populated Catalina foothills, where I live and play golf (yes, lions have been spotted on the golf course), and partake of an easy, tasty snack which is usually someone’s pet.

So what does Arizona Game and Fish do when that happens? First, it will provide NO NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC OF SPECIFICALLY WHERE A MOUNTAIN LION IS SPOTTED (how thoughtful to all the people in the neighborhood where a mountain lion is known to be roaming). Second, the lion is tracked, darted, hauled right back into the mountain wilderness, and released (I have no problem with this part of the policy).

Now however, Game and Fish turns right around and introduces the lions FAVORITE PREY, bighorn sheep, into the lion’s natural territory and institutes a policy of killing the lions when they do what predators instinctively do. This may help you to understand why I consider most environmental and conservation groups and their fellow travelers in state and federal agencies to be a threat to our society. They not only throw up insideous blockades to human activity, they end up damaging the very creatures they claim they are protecting. The leaders of these irrational and nihilistic private and governmental organizations, and the dupes who join them, will do anything to further their radical agenda, however insane it may be.

http://www.theburningplatform.com/2013/12/09/the-twilight-zone-wolves-bighorn-sheep-and-mountain-lions/

1 posted on 02/22/2014 3:06:20 PM PST by Daffynition
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To: Daffynition

Your government in action: Wasting your money as creatively as their pin-heads allow.


2 posted on 02/22/2014 3:10:36 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Daffynition

they gots mountain lions there

crap we were hoping to send them some of ours


3 posted on 02/22/2014 3:11:11 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: bigheadfred
You said cougars. Heh.


4 posted on 02/22/2014 3:14:26 PM PST by Daffynition ("If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right." ~ Henry Ford)
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To: Daffynition

They reintroduced bighorns round here.

The cats ate them all.

They reintroduced wild turkeys round here.

The cats ate them all.

One bright moment I was driving to work one morning and a cat crossed the road with a poodle in its jaws.

Now if they would eat the wolves...


5 posted on 02/22/2014 3:16:33 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: bigheadfred

I need to introduce big cats to my neighborhood.


6 posted on 02/22/2014 3:19:11 PM PST by FreedomStar3028 (Evil must be punished.)
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To: Daffynition

big difference between a mountain lion and a cougar

a mountain lion will choke the life out of you, bury you, leave you for dead, but come back for you later

a cougar will...

oh... wait...


7 posted on 02/22/2014 3:20:45 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: FreedomStar3028

;-))


8 posted on 02/22/2014 3:25:06 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: bigheadfred
They got 'em down south too.


9 posted on 02/22/2014 3:32:51 PM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Explain again, why don't you need to fill out form 4473 to buy a pressure cooker?)
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To: Daffynition

The Copenhagen Zoo should have just sent their giraffe to the Arizona Game and Fish Department. Would have spared them a lot of controversy, and might have saved the life of a mountain goat.


10 posted on 02/22/2014 3:35:26 PM PST by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

I wonder how much that costs the U.S. taxpayers?


11 posted on 02/22/2014 3:35:29 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: AZLiberty

Oh, sorry, bighorn sheep.


12 posted on 02/22/2014 3:35:54 PM PST by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: AZLiberty
Oh, sorry, bighorn sheep.

what are we trying to save here

the goat the giraffe or the sheep

or am i lion if i thought it was pride

13 posted on 02/22/2014 3:46:15 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: bigheadfred

Typically it doesn’t cost us anything. Just stay away from the Nogales, AZ Walmart Supercenter parking lot on a Saturday afternoon. Compared to well off Canadians, our other common foreign visitors, people from Mexico are generally good drivers. Only problem is, they’re used to driving without insurance.


14 posted on 02/22/2014 4:11:01 PM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Explain again, why don't you need to fill out form 4473 to buy a pressure cooker?)
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To: bigheadfred

Mary had a little sheep
and with the sheep she went to sleep
the sheep turned out to be a ram
and Mary had a little lamb.


15 posted on 02/22/2014 4:15:28 PM PST by NY Cajun
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To: FreedomStar3028

Detroit!
You live in Detroit?


16 posted on 02/22/2014 5:03:35 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT
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To: NY Cajun

I’m stealing that if I can remember it correctly...


17 posted on 02/22/2014 5:37:04 PM PST by PLMerite
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To: AZLiberty

Remember the vid of the golden eagle snatching a mountain goat and dropping it to its death? Mother Nature at her finest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VklTs-Tid_I

Or:

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=video+eagle+throw+mountain+goat+to+daeth&FORM=HDRSC2#view=detail&id=95AB8FA36E33382FC03BC3709A3F449D92928842&selectedIndex=20


18 posted on 02/22/2014 7:42:00 PM PST by Daffynition ("If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right." ~ Henry Ford)
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To: goat granny
Goats of the mountain kind, dearie. ;)


19 posted on 02/22/2014 7:44:14 PM PST by Daffynition ("If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right." ~ Henry Ford)
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To: bigheadfred

I was acquainted with a lovely young woman whose family lived north of Tucson at the foot of the Catalina Mountains. I do recall her telling me that a mountain lion had roughed her family dog up pretty badly but it had survived the encounter.


20 posted on 02/22/2014 7:44:51 PM PST by Rodamala
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To: bigheadfred
It's 5 o'clock somewhere


21 posted on 02/22/2014 7:46:41 PM PST by Daffynition ("If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right." ~ Henry Ford)
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To: bigheadfred

22 posted on 02/22/2014 7:49:07 PM PST by Daffynition ("If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right." ~ Henry Ford)
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To: Daffynition
It's 5 o'clock somewhere

Well at least those kids are some where safe instead of being on the road when I am on the road heading home from work.

23 posted on 02/22/2014 8:02:00 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: bigheadfred
It's a jungle out there...

You have a job????

24 posted on 02/22/2014 8:06:41 PM PST by Daffynition ("If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right." ~ Henry Ford)
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To: Daffynition

Governor Brewer is cool with this? I really don’t know her at all.


25 posted on 02/22/2014 8:42:39 PM PST by lee martell
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To: Daffynition

They are cute, but my Angora’s were way prettier...imho :O)


26 posted on 02/23/2014 12:07:23 AM PST by goat granny (.)
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To: goat granny
I'm sure they were....


27 posted on 02/23/2014 4:16:31 AM PST by Daffynition ("If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right." ~ Henry Ford)
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To: Daffynition

LOL daffy, your nuts, good think I like nuts...GG


28 posted on 02/23/2014 6:13:48 PM PST by goat granny (.)
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