Skip to comments.Leftists become incandescent when reminded of the socialist roots of Nazism
Posted on 02/25/2014 3:44:02 PM PST by cripplecreek
On 16 June 1941, as Hitler readied his forces for Operation Barbarossa, Josef Goebbels looked forward to the new order that the Nazis would impose on a conquered Russia. There would be no come-back, he wrote, for capitalists nor priests nor Tsars. Rather, in the place of debased, Jewish Bolshevism, the Wehrmacht would deliver der echte Sozialismus: real socialism.
Goebbels never doubted that he was a socialist. He understood Nazism to be a better and more plausible form of socialism than that propagated by Lenin. Instead of spreading itself across different nations, it would operate within the unit of the Volk.
So total is the cultural victory of the modern Left that the merely to recount this fact is jarring. But few at the time would have found it especially contentious. As George Watson put it in The Lost Literature of Socialism:
It is now clear beyond all reasonable doubt that Hitler and his associates believed they were socialists, and that others, including democratic socialists, thought so too.
The clue is in the name. Subsequent generations of Leftists have tried to explain away the awkward nomenclature of the National Socialist German Workers Party as either a cynical PR stunt or an embarrassing coincidence. In fact, the name meant what it said.
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Self-ping to read later.
Socialism isn’t just the root of fascism, it’s the entire organism.
to read later
Good find. Pass this along to every Liberal you know and watch their heads implode. I predict they will ultimately shake their heads and walk away. After all, what Liberals can’t accept the simply reject and continue to believe in unicorns and rainbows. Nice job. Thank you.
"The goal of socialism is communism." ...............and the ever popular "The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation." Vladimir Lenin
Surprise, surprise, no response.
Yes, of course. The real reason why the Communists hated the Nazis so much was because they were competing for the same territory.
Hitler got a lot of his ideas from Mussolini—who started out his political career as a card-carrying Communist.
I remind lefties of my acquaintance of this all the time. Sunlight to vampires.
I thought they banned incandescent bulbs... oh that’s right... just the bright ones, which liberals are not.
“Leftists become incandescent when reminded of the socialist roots of Nazism”
The headline needs a little tweaking.
Leftists become “CFL or LED” when reminded of the socialist roots of Nazism
Goebbels took a lot of his propaganda directly from a book called “Crystallizing public opinion” by Wilsonian progressive Edward Bernays.
I actually try to moderate my opinion of Bernays with the idea that he was more of a fool than an evil man. He did a lot of good things in his life and was genuinely horrified upon finding that his propaganda methods were being used by the nazi.
“It is now clear beyond all reasonable doubt that Hitler and his associates believed they were socialists, and that others, including democratic socialists, thought so too.”
Kind of hard to hide when Nazi stands for National Socialism. Perhaps we should stop calling them Nazis and call them National Socialists instead. It would be a correct moniker for them.
“The clue is in the name. Subsequent generations of Leftists have tried to explain away the awkward nomenclature of the National Socialist German Workers Party as either a cynical PR stunt or an embarrassing coincidence. In fact, the name meant what it said.”
Indeed. And the volkswagen literally means “the people’s wagon”. Sounds like a very socialist friendly term IMHO.
Hitler was a Fascist. And Fascists are Socialists.
Whereas Communism involves the state's ownership of the means of production, Fascism requires the state to merely control the means of production.
Observe The Won's cultivation of and cozy relationship with the corporatists. Obama, Buffet, GE, Hollywood, etc. are no different than Hitler, Krupp, Thyssen, Riefenstahl, etc.
Personally, I disagree with some of Hannan's more generous conclusions. Many leftists would not hesitate to send global warming skeptics to the camps...if they could.
The George Bernard Shaw quote, in particular, is absolutely chilling. Especially, since there are leftist intellectuals today who hold the same thoughts...
However--Josef Goebbels was indeed a left wing Nazi, almost an urban revolutionary (like the Strasser brothers and Ernst Rohm). There are even mainstream historians who admit this.
exactly, the same territory and the same audience
Left and right don’t mean the same things in continental Europe as they do in the English speaking world. Left and right have the same general connotations in Great Britain, Canada, the USA, and Australia.
I think I would put myself about dead center between conservative and libertarian on that graphic.
I would just simply say, Nazism VS Communism is just like Coke VS Pepsi.
The Same ingredients just marketed differently.
I would think that the terms in which an organization identified itself, - in its founding documents and in the name it took - would be the "way they were traditionally identified."
In the case of the Nazi party, the name they took was die Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, or "the National Socialist German Workers Party."
The only "tradition" here is the traditional degree to which Left wingers would like to re-write history so as to airbrush out their failures and redirect the responsibility onto their political enemies. In this case they cannot do this, because the record is very clear.
In the case of the racial history of the American South, their efforts have been much more successful.
I think the most dishonest narrative ever perpetuated by academia and the media is that Fascism is/was a right wing ideology.
Libs understand it,they choose to ignore it.They are hopeless fools.
This whole thing of defining what socialism is is cute. It’s like talking about the difference between being beaten and being flogged.
I know it’s true, but I’ve read it here and elsewhere hundreds of times, so how come it’s not catching, and since it’s not catching, maybe different methods oughta be used. I mean, it’s become a tired refrain, we are all already persuaded, enough.
Of what importance is that if I range men firmly within a discipline they cannot escape? Let them own land or factories as much as they please. The decisive factor is that the State, through the Party, is supreme over them, regardless whether they are owners or workers. All that, you see, is unessential. Our Socialism goes far deeper..."
"The people about us are unaware of what is really happening to them. The gaze fascinated at one or two superficialities, such as possessions and income or rank and other outworn conceptions. As long as these are kept intact, they are quite satisfied. But in the meantime, they have entered a new relation; a powerful social force has caught them up. They themselves are changed. What are ownership and income to that? Why need we trouble to socialize banks and factories? We socialize human beings."
Adolph HitlerThe Voice of Destruction pp 191-193
Straight from the horses, er, mouth so to speak. This reference really drives them nuts. Also - a little too eerily familiar in tone, no?
I’ve been making similar comments about right vs left for a long time, love it! a liberal friend was dumbfounded when I pointed out that Nazis, commies and socialists are all the same and that they require total government control of the people.
You have taken the bait to heart - dished out by the US socialist left which more closely identifies itself with the Communist movement. Ever since Hitler betrayed the Communists by invading Russia, the US left has hated the NAZIs and sought to identify their enemies in the US as NAZIs or ‘right wingers’.
You, as a proud Conservative, are neither ‘right’ nor ‘left wing.’ Rather, you stand for conserving the principles this country was founded on, as well as Christian morality, etc.
Labeling yourself as a ‘right wing’ Conservative is to fall for the semantic trap laid by the left - words mean things and to fall for the trap is to muddle your message - as the left wishes.
"Right wing" came out of France not Germany, so it is ill fitting anyway; but the fact is conservatives were no friends of the nazi party.
The right v. left paradigm just does not apply to American conservatism, which tries to conserve an ideology quite differnt that either of the groupings in the French Revolution from which the terms are derived.
The American Left, OTOH, is just a branch of the European Left.
It should be noted that while Nazism is at root a socialist and leftist ideology, it also incorporated a great deal from the European Right. What it has almost nothing in common with is today’s American conservatism.
The origins of ‘left’ and ‘right’ are based on the events of the French Revolution. When the Estates General was convened in 1789, the radicals and ‘progressives’ sat on the left hand side of the chamber, the conservatives (who literally wanted to conserve France’s traditional institutions, including Christianity) sat on the right.
Conservatism can therefore accurately be described as ‘right-wing’. There was nothing conservative about the Nazis. They were radicals who loathed Christianity and the old order and sought to tear it down and rebuild society in their own image, embracing such ‘progressive’ policies such as eugenics.
Exactly. Plus Hitler was a vegetarian, an anti-smoker and anti-gun rights for citizens. Those are FAR from American right wing viewpoints.
A former co-worker of mine who is very liberal, when I reminded him what Nazi meant he did indeed become incandescent. Liberals hate the truth and what I found is they do everything to berate YOU or try to change the subject but refuse to face facts.
He is being too diplomatic, especially since the proper socialist term for rank and file liberals is “useful idiot”.
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