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Sept 2011: Five ft tall man with Down Syndrome beaten by Police-bulge in pants:Colostomy Bag
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Posted on 02/25/2014 9:32:06 PM PST by Altariel

SOUTHWEST MIAMI-DADE, FLORIDA - All Gilberto Powell, 22, a five foot tall man with Down Syndrome, wanted to do was walk a half block home from a friend's house, but this was enough time and distance for the police to intervene.

Police "followed" Powell because they noticed a "bulge in his pants." He was not happy to see the cops; this was only his colostomy bag (which police ripped from his body). Powell was then beaten down in the street by police, leaving him bruised and battered from blows to the face.

The beating officer insisted Powell ran, but Powell disputes this and said he did everything he could to comply. When Powell's mother asked the cop if he could tell her son had Down's Syndrome, the cop said he wasn't a doctor.

Powell said he felt "helpless" and wants an apology from the police. He also wants to community to be aware that this could happen to YOU


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Full Title: Five Foot Tall Man With Down Syndrome Beaten By Police For ‘Bulge In Pants’ That Turns Out To Be Only A Colostomy Bag

1 posted on 02/25/2014 9:32:06 PM PST by Altariel
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To: Altariel

Just Protecting and Serving.


2 posted on 02/25/2014 9:35:32 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Altariel
Powell said he felt "helpless" and wants an apology from the police.

Mr. Powell, the police owe you more than an apology. They owe you money, big time.

By the way: The police should have NO authority to order citizens to stop just because they have "bulges in their pants".

Methinks that the police officers suffer from feelings of inadequacy.

3 posted on 02/25/2014 9:40:25 PM PST by Flyin' Hawaiian ("No private messages, please. Thanks.")
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To: Altariel

My first wife used to beat me because the “bulge in my pants” wasn’t big enough. I’m speaking about my wallet, of course.


4 posted on 02/25/2014 9:40:32 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Altariel

Just think what they would have done to John Holmes. He’d been shot on sight. Cop: “I thought he had a rocket launcher in his pants.”


5 posted on 02/25/2014 9:40:58 PM PST by TaMoDee (Go Pack Go! The Pack will be back in 2014!)
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To: Altariel

This is the way of the world, under Obama Amin.


6 posted on 02/25/2014 9:42:13 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Altariel
The ‘brave’ cop ripped off the man's colostomy bag. I would say justice would be the victim being allowed to beat the sh*t out of the cop.
7 posted on 02/25/2014 9:42:44 PM PST by bramps (Go West America!)
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To: Altariel
This seems to have happened back in 2011. I wonder if they got any justice? Media is quiet right now.
8 posted on 02/25/2014 9:45:51 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Altariel

Is it true that anyone with an IQ greater than 100 is prohibited from becoming a cop?


9 posted on 02/25/2014 9:48:17 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not really out to get you.)
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To: Altariel

These ‘mistakes’ are happening WAY too often. And I notice that it never seems to happen to some of the gangbangers or yutes in our cities.

This is an outrage.


10 posted on 02/25/2014 9:48:36 PM PST by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: bramps

Gee, every cop is trained to recognize a colostomy bag, yep they should have known. A bulge in the pants could be a colostomy bag, a gun or an erection. They should wait and see and risk their live while waiting.


11 posted on 02/25/2014 9:49:08 PM PST by doc1019
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To: Altariel

Good thing he wasn’t walking his dog.


12 posted on 02/25/2014 9:50:49 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Altariel
If government were local and small, the police would know this kid.

Instead big government sends strangers with guns into your local community to "protect you" and things like this happen.

13 posted on 02/25/2014 9:50:59 PM PST by freerepublicchat
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To: doc1019

“Gee, every cop is trained to recognize a colostomy bag, yep they should have known. A bulge in the pants could be a colostomy bag, a gun or an erection. They should wait and see and risk their live while waiting.”

They should have just left him the hell alone.


14 posted on 02/25/2014 9:53:02 PM PST by ebshumidors
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To: doc1019
why were the coppers even interested in this guy?...you mean the cops can just interpret whatever they want as a danger?....

the coppers intervened for no apparent reason, certainly no legit reasons.....

15 posted on 02/25/2014 9:54:40 PM PST by cherry
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To: doc1019
Gee, every cop is trained to recognize a colostomy bag, yep they should have known.

Even when they ripped from his body they thought it was suspicious...They probably thought it was a terrorist bomb or some wierd drugs...They put it on the hood and started poking it with their night sticks...

Ahhhhhhhhhh

I'm getting that monkey movie feeling again....

It's a mad house!

16 posted on 02/25/2014 9:54:47 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: doc1019
Gee, every cop is trained to recognize a colostomy bag, yep they should have known. A bulge in the pants could be a colostomy bag, a gun or an erection. They should wait and see and risk their live while waiting. So we are not citizens, but mere subjects who must submit to statist searches, just because our clothes don't look right to the police? Sorry, but I prefer to defend liberty. I reject the presumption that the police have the right to search my person just because I "might" be carrying a gun. Your sarcasm mocks Mr. Powell's pain.
17 posted on 02/25/2014 9:55:01 PM PST by Flyin' Hawaiian ("No private messages, please. Thanks.")
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To: ebshumidors

And if it had been a gun? What then? You would be speaking out the other side of your mouth and condemning the police for not acting.


18 posted on 02/25/2014 9:57:15 PM PST by doc1019
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To: Alaska Wolf

ping


19 posted on 02/25/2014 9:59:10 PM PST by null and void (<--- unwilling cattle-car passenger on the bullet train to serfdom)
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To: doc1019

You are the guy I have been looking for. I’m doing research on the taste of leather. Since you seem to have licked a few leather boots in your time, help me out, how do they really taste.


20 posted on 02/25/2014 10:00:48 PM PST by gusty
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To: doc1019

Um, we would be speaking out because people don’t have the right to bear arms? Is that what you’re saying?


21 posted on 02/25/2014 10:01:02 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: doc1019

Why would a Down Syndrome kid be carrying a gun?


22 posted on 02/25/2014 10:01:03 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Viennacon
This is the way of the world, under Obama Amin.

Yeah, right. This kind of thing never happened before Obama. All we have to do now is wait for Obama to leave office and it will stop happening.

Geez.

23 posted on 02/25/2014 10:02:36 PM PST by Ken H (What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
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To: Olog-hai

And the cops knew this? Even if they knew, you are telling me that a person with downs couldn’t be armed?


24 posted on 02/25/2014 10:03:29 PM PST by doc1019
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To: doc1019

What if your glasses “might” actually carry a tiny explosive weapon? What if your watch “might” have a poisonous drug in it that you “could” use to kill someone? What if your cell phone “might” have a detonator for a bomb in it? If the police DEMAND that YOU have to stop walking on a public sidewalk based on their whims, will YOU submit? If not, then you are a hypocrite.


25 posted on 02/25/2014 10:04:25 PM PST by Flyin' Hawaiian ("No private messages, please. Thanks.")
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To: Olog-hai

Why not?


26 posted on 02/25/2014 10:04:32 PM PST by doc1019
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To: doc1019
Gee, every cop is trained to recognize a colostomy bag, yep they should have known.

When Powell's mother asked the cop if he could tell her son had Down's Syndrome, the cop said he wasn't a doctor.

Hey doc they couldn't even tell this guy had Down's Syndrome.

So I'm confident these officers will now be up for promotion to detective!

27 posted on 02/25/2014 10:05:02 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: doc1019
Gee, every cop is trained to recognize a colostomy bag, yep they should have known. A bulge in the pants could be a colostomy bag, a gun or an erection. They should wait and see and risk their live while waiting.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

What part of the above is so difficult to understand?

28 posted on 02/25/2014 10:05:46 PM PST by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: gusty

Thanks for the Retort of the ages! Rock on!


29 posted on 02/25/2014 10:05:47 PM PST by GOYAKLA (Waiting for the Golden Screw to be removed from Obama's navel and his a$$ falls off!)
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To: Olog-hai
Why would a Down Syndrome kid be carrying a gun?

To keep crazy people from ripping off their colostomy bag?

30 posted on 02/25/2014 10:06:12 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: doc1019

Seems highly unlikely that the officers in question would be this badly trained as to fail to recognize someone with Down Syndrome, much less someone with a colostomy bag versus a gun.


31 posted on 02/25/2014 10:08:44 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: doc1019
You are on to something. I think the police should wait for the short bus to come down the street, drag the occupants all off the bus, and then beat them all into submission. You never know, someone might be armed, with a pen knife or something. Constitutuions, who needs those for Gods sake, we got to eliminate the danger of tooled up Down’s Syndrome people.
32 posted on 02/25/2014 10:09:13 PM PST by gusty
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To: dragnet2

True; you gotta watch out for your colostomy bag in Obama’s America.


33 posted on 02/25/2014 10:09:22 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: doc1019
So, was Powell reaching for his bag in a threatening manner?

Just what got this cope so interested? If Powell was doing nothing at all with thei threatening bag, why did this brave cop decide to roust him?

But, the cop went home safe that night, that is all that really matters, right?

34 posted on 02/25/2014 10:12:43 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: All

just to relieve the monotony, let me argue the other side.
right now in this country, we have an epidemic of people running from the cops. its usually young Africa American males, who must have a gene that makes them right on site.
i’m not a cop and I don’t know any, but I can imagine the frustration that nowadays people don’t even have the common sense or even duty as a citizen to obey a cop.

now, of course, there will be tragedies. like the combination of a bad cop and maybe this down syndrome person.
but honestly, to me its a liberals whine to take one small example and say, we need to let people break the law.
ala Trayvon.


35 posted on 02/25/2014 10:14:18 PM PST by willywill
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To: Altariel

36 posted on 02/25/2014 10:14:39 PM PST by stormer
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To: An.American.Expatriate
What part of the above is so difficult to understand?

Apparently, "doc" seems to be under the impression that we have an "it's totally OK to search any bulge bigger than yours" exception to the Fourth Amendment.

37 posted on 02/25/2014 10:15:09 PM PST by Flyin' Hawaiian ("No private messages, please. Thanks.")
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To: Olog-hai

Are you a police officer? Do you have a background in law enforcement? I do. Until you put yourself in the shoes of the police ... judge not.


38 posted on 02/25/2014 10:15:16 PM PST by doc1019
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To: Olog-hai; Altariel

The cop involved has quite a history.

http://www.miaminewtimes.com/2011-12-29/news/miami-dade-cop-fernando-villa-had-problems-long-before-his-dui/full/


39 posted on 02/25/2014 10:15:32 PM PST by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with violence, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: doc1019
Powell was then beaten down in the street by police, leaving him bruised and battered from blows to the face.

Then he was NOT arrested and let go....

Ohhhhhhhh.....gezzzz

40 posted on 02/25/2014 10:17:31 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Ken H

It’s fair to say corrupt elements of law enforcement have been running wild under this president, for instance, the anal cavity search of that man in Arizona on a roadside, not to mention all the TSA insanity.


41 posted on 02/25/2014 10:19:07 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: willywill
right now in this country, we have an epidemic of people running from the cops.

LOL!

I can't imagine why....

42 posted on 02/25/2014 10:19:27 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: doc1019
condemning the police for not acting.

Are you daft man? Where his other behaviors indicating it was likely to be a weapon??????? Or maybe this officer had penis envy problems and not only needs to be fired for his stupidity, but mental counselling for his envy problems.

Maybe this all goes back to some similar mental "envy" problems you have, so I am sorry /Not


A colostomy bag? Sheeh!

43 posted on 02/25/2014 10:21:04 PM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS.. We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? Dem's did and voted!)
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To: doc1019
Until you put yourself in the shoes of the police ... judge not.

I'll put myself in the shoes of a free citizen, thank you very much. And as a free citizen, I judge the actions of all government officials based on the Constitution. If police officers cannot abide by those standards, then they should seek work elsewhere.

44 posted on 02/25/2014 10:22:35 PM PST by Flyin' Hawaiian ("No private messages, please. Thanks.")
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To: Paleo Conservative

This cop is probably just sorry the guy did not have a dog with him he could have shot.


45 posted on 02/25/2014 10:22:40 PM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS.. We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? Dem's did and voted!)
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To: doc1019

Things are different in Obama’s America.

And with all due respect, you have offered zero insight as to how a policeman really ought to handle this situation, other than a blanket stereotype of the “blue wall of silence”. The trust between people and police must not break down, or else anarchy will ensue. (Look at Detroit, after all.)

Let’s start over, with you on the scene of this young Downs man, not able to articulate clearly, with a bulge in his pants that may or may not be a firearm—and you just implied that police training is not enough to differentiate between the two, somehow. What to do next? I’m listening.


46 posted on 02/25/2014 10:24:12 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: doc1019

You picked a real a winner to defend. Next time googling the officer’s name will save you a lot of embarrassment.

http://www.miaminewtimes.com/2011-12-29/news/miami-dade-cop-fernando-villa-had-problems-long-before-his-dui/full/


47 posted on 02/25/2014 10:24:17 PM PST by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with violence, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: doc1019
... judge not.

I'm think the employer of the public servant is more than justified in judging whether said public servant is serving the public's interest.

48 posted on 02/25/2014 10:25:17 PM PST by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: doc1019

Was he doing anything...anything at all, wrong?

I know quite a few downs syndrome people...and quite a few people who are disabled with colostomy bags. Those people do not go out looking for trouble. People in those conditions are almost universally very reserved.

This is another travesty.

They allowed their, what I am willing to bet were unwarranted suspicions of him to cause them to intrude on his walk home, and when he was not fast enough responding to them (and Down’s Syndrome can easily make that happen), so they beat him to the ground and ripped his colostomy bag off of him.

It’s indefensible unless they can show in any way that he was participating in any criminal/illegal behavior, or that he was a threat to anyone. But it is a pretty sure thing that he wasn’t.

They should have just left him the hell alone.


49 posted on 02/25/2014 10:26:04 PM PST by Jeff Head
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To: doc1019

Hey doc, ya wanna bet the tax payers down their Florida, who are already beat down, pay big time dollars for this beat down of this Down Syndrome kid?

By the time this is over, the local government and their agents down there will be happy to settle with our money!

Bet the rent.


50 posted on 02/25/2014 10:27:07 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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