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Horror: Cops tackle, beat, pepper-spray, pin, suffocate, kill innocent man
Daily Caller ^ | 02/25/2014 | Robby Soave

Posted on 02/26/2014 7:01:29 AM PST by Rusty0604

Disturbing video of a police incident in an Oklahoma parking lot shows a man who had committed no crime dying after being roughed up and violently restrained by four cops–all while his grief-stricken wife watched in horror.

The man, 44-year-old Luis Rodriguez, died in a Moore, Oklahoma movie theater parking lot. Police were responding to a reported domestic disturbance. Rodriguez’s wife admitted to slapping the couple’s 19-year-old daughter in the face over a disagreement about the girl’s behavior. Rodriguez, however, was not involved and had not done anything wrong, according to local news reports.

But when police arrived, they wanted to question Rodriguez. According to the Moore police department, Rodriguez was not cooperative, and cops were forced to handcuff and restrain him.

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TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: cops; donutwatch; luisrodriguez; moore; standingarmy
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1 posted on 02/26/2014 7:01:30 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

and all of them can “carry” anywhere because they are “trusted” ... yet I cannot.


2 posted on 02/26/2014 7:04:10 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag ("There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Rusty0604

“Police Chief Jerry Stillings said that he has not yet seen any footage demonstrating that the cops misbehaved.”

Thugs protecting thugs.


3 posted on 02/26/2014 7:05:42 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Rusty0604

I guess the police motto has gone from serve and protect to beat and kill.


4 posted on 02/26/2014 7:06:31 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Rusty0604

If it happened the way the headline says then heads should roll. But the story itself reads somewhat differently. Need more info.


5 posted on 02/26/2014 7:06:49 AM PST by skeeter
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To: skeeter

same here. But if its true, these cops need to serve long time hard time.


6 posted on 02/26/2014 7:09:39 AM PST by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: Rusty0604

We’re looking at this all wrong, obviously our priorities are screwed up.

All the cops got to go home safe at the end of their shifts, and that’s the important thing. As a bonus, no dogs are known to have been killed.


7 posted on 02/26/2014 7:11:22 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Rusty0604
The only important thing is that the five officers got to go home to their families that night.
8 posted on 02/26/2014 7:13:44 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (If Barack Hussein Obama entertains a thought that he does not verbalize, is it still a lie?)
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To: skeeter
But the story itself reads somewhat differently.

I saw your comment so I went to read the story. The headline is essentially correct, he was "restrained," then pinned down until he expired. Pepper spray may or may not have been used.

9 posted on 02/26/2014 7:14:14 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Rusty0604

Surprisingly the wife was allowed to video the incident. This evidence will mysteriously disappear from the police custody.


10 posted on 02/26/2014 7:15:22 AM PST by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us of Obama’s America)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

And three are now on paid vacation.


11 posted on 02/26/2014 7:15:24 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: skeeter

I’m not clear how the cops ended up there over his wife slapping a 19 yr. od daughter. Maybe they assumed the man was guilty of something or maybe the guy dared voice displeasure over the cops’ questioning tactics?
Doesn’t seem like it should be a death sentence in any event. No report of the guy attacking the cops, just being uncooperative. What more info do you need?


12 posted on 02/26/2014 7:16:58 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Cyber Liberty
I'm not going to be compelled to defend the police here, suffice it to say I found the headline misleading.

We don't really know what they guy did to get cuffed, we don;t know whether he succumbed to the "beating" (not in evidence) or had some sort of medical condition the cops were unaware of. Personally I need that info before drawing a conclusion.

Having said that I believe without a doubt that cops too often opt for a violent solution to problems far too quickly these days. Here it cost another guy his life.

13 posted on 02/26/2014 7:19:32 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Rusty0604

Isolated incident, nothing to see here.


14 posted on 02/26/2014 7:23:13 AM PST by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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To: skeeter

The headline appears to be over-the-top, but we’ve seen from numerous recent stories about violent cop-induced deaths that we can no longer give them the benefit of the doubt.


15 posted on 02/26/2014 7:24:31 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Rusty0604

To be on the safe side, officers later stopped by the suspect’s house to kill his dog.


16 posted on 02/26/2014 7:28:16 AM PST by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
Its a symptom of a combination of misguided enforcement tactics and the generally widening gulf between the public sector and the public at large. IMO.

The former can be remedied, the latter (far more serious) cannot.

17 posted on 02/26/2014 7:28:47 AM PST by skeeter
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To: skeeter

Agreed. Meanwhile, cops need to be treated like everybody else by the criminal justice system. They must not be allowed to beat and murder members of the public under color of law.

These guys on paid administrative leave? Need to be in jail with bail set at hundreds of thousands of dollars each, because that’s where you or I would be in the same situation.


18 posted on 02/26/2014 7:32:52 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Rusty0604

We are seeing more and more of this, and more often than not, it seems as though it is happening to innocent people. Cops get the wrong house, tear up the house, shoot the victims, etc. I guess this would be a great way to get rid of that pesky neighbor, if you were dishonest and had no conscience.


19 posted on 02/26/2014 7:37:21 AM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: Cyber Liberty
Need to be in jail with bail set at hundreds of thousands of dollars each, because that’s where you or I would be in the same situation.

Same could be said for the AG.

A fish rots from the head.

20 posted on 02/26/2014 7:37:32 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Rusty0604

So... if Rodriguez had been polite and respectful to the police than he most likely would still be alive. Sure the police over-reacted and should be punished to the full extent of the law but the situation could have easily been avoided by common sense.


21 posted on 02/26/2014 7:39:20 AM PST by thejokker
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To: Rusty0604

and do the cops get paid vacation until the story dies down

??


22 posted on 02/26/2014 7:41:29 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Rusty0604

Security camera footage has yet to be released as well, and could shed more light on how Rodriguez died


Yeah, like the costco security cameras that were oddly not working when cops gunned down Erik Scott?


23 posted on 02/26/2014 7:41:42 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: skeeter

When questioned by cops in a situation like that, one’s response should always be “I have nothing to say.”. And those exact words should be repeated no matter what the cops say or ask. It makes them look foolish and clearly the escelators of the event if something happens.

And if they try to restrain you, let them.


24 posted on 02/26/2014 7:44:13 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: Cyber Liberty

ever notice that anytime a cop kills someone they get a paid vacation?

how’s that for incentive!


25 posted on 02/26/2014 7:48:39 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Rusty0604

A similar incident happened a few years ago close to where I live: In that case, a man was accused of loitering outside a store. By all accounts, the guy was a regular customer, and the store managers didn’t mind him standing there. But, this time, a police officer happened to be at the store, and when he came walking out, he confronted the guy.

To make a long story short: The officer tried grabbing and pepper spraying the man to arrest him. A few customers came out to help the officer pin the man down. Then backup arrived. As the whole crowd was putting the man into the patrol car, they realized he wasn’t moving. Autopsy results showed that he was killed by asphyxiation.


26 posted on 02/26/2014 7:49:35 AM PST by Tired of Taxes
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To: Rusty0604

Fortunately, no cop’s ego was permanently bruised during this incident.


27 posted on 02/26/2014 7:50:03 AM PST by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: Shery
We are seeing more and more of this, and more often than not, it seems as though it is happening to innocent people.

It's because innocent people are starting to object to the treatment, and cops see the objections as "resistance" (their training and steroids tell them so). Cops hate "resistance," so they take it as a license to beat the living carp out of anybody they like, better still if they are killed in the process because dead people cannot sue.

Cops are also trained to see dogs as a threat, so they are simply shooting them on sight. They also see video-cams as a threat, and have tried on numerous occasions to confiscate them, and even destroy them. Not being the brightest creatures on the planet, the videos often survive the attempts to destroy them.

I guess this would be a great way to get rid of that pesky neighbor, if you were dishonest and had no conscience.

"Swatting is the tricking of any emergency service (via such as a 9-1-1 dispatcher) into dispatching an emergency response based on the false report of an on-going critical incident." Wiki Link

28 posted on 02/26/2014 7:51:56 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Rusty0604
But when police arrived, they wanted to question Rodriguez. According to the Moore police department, Rodriguez was not cooperative, and cops were forced to handcuff and restrain him.

Ah yes, the high crime of being uncooperative. And they were "forced" to put him down and handcuff him because being uncooperative is so very dangerous.

These cops acted like a street gang and murdered this man.

29 posted on 02/26/2014 7:52:10 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Tired of Taxes

There was a man on Utube who was asphyxiated during a traffic stop by two cops. He kept telling them he could not breathe. Then he didn’t.


30 posted on 02/26/2014 7:54:27 AM PST by Chickensoup (leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Every gummint employee is similarly incentivized. Whenever I read a story about a bureaucrat gone wild,they are on paid leave while being investigated.

Unions, my friend. They have unions.


31 posted on 02/26/2014 7:54:45 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: cuban leaf

That’s why they’ve taken to dragging the “perp” out of view of their dash-cams, then start screaming things that don’t make sense like “Stop resisting! Stop resisting!!” when witnesses have testified nobody was resisting.


32 posted on 02/26/2014 7:56:54 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: shove_it

You can watch the video here:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2567867/Video-released-mans-death-Oklahoma-theater.html


33 posted on 02/26/2014 7:59:36 AM PST by FamiliarFace
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To: GeronL
and do the cops get paid vacation until the story dies down

Yes. Yes they do. FTA: Three of the officers involved have been placed on administrative leave.

34 posted on 02/26/2014 8:00:52 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: thejokker
So... if Rodriguez had been polite and respectful to the police than he most likely would still be alive.

Yes, let's blame the victim.

Had the police followed appropriate procedures he would most likely still be alive.

At least they didn't shoot hundreds of rounds at him and burn him alive like they did the black guy in LA.

35 posted on 02/26/2014 8:01:48 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: skeeter
Not certain whether he died from their actions or an unrelated health condition?
Answer me this, I jump on a guy for refusing to talk to me. I then hold him down and he dies while I'm on top of him. What will happen to me when the police arrive?
A. Nothing
B. I'll be arrested for murder

Further, will the DA care whether cause of death was asphyxiation, a ruptured aorta, a heart attack, or an aneurysm ? I don't think so, as my action was what led to it.

36 posted on 02/26/2014 8:03:34 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: cuban leaf
Yep. Say nothing and comply 100%.

And for pete's sake, keep your hands where they can see 'em. You can never be sure who you're dealing with.

37 posted on 02/26/2014 8:03:41 AM PST by skeeter
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To: SampleMan

B. What is your point?


38 posted on 02/26/2014 8:06:31 AM PST by skeeter
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To: thejokker

Yea, maybe we should just pass a law that citizens must be polite and respectful to police under any circumstance, and if they are not, they may face death.


39 posted on 02/26/2014 8:06:56 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: skeeter

OK, here’s more info: Mr. Rodriguez is still dead.

Hope this helps.


40 posted on 02/26/2014 8:06:57 AM PST by Romulus
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To: Rusty0604

Imagine how the 19 year old daughter feels. She will probably carry some amount of feelings of responsibility for he fathers death with her for the rest of her life.

Take a close look at the police in the video. They don’t look like thugs. They even thought they were right. But they ARE thugs. They just have a self perception problem.


41 posted on 02/26/2014 8:07:24 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: Romulus

Thanks. Feel better?


42 posted on 02/26/2014 8:08:08 AM PST by skeeter
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To: thejokker

Free people don’t kiss apparatchik butt to avoid their weekly beating.

Do you seriously think that the LEOs that did this would be anything but confrontational?

If he wasn’t a physical danger to the police, then why was he put down like he was.


43 posted on 02/26/2014 8:09:52 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

I also don’t think cops should be allowed to investigate themselves. An elected panel of citizens should be paid for this express purpose.


44 posted on 02/26/2014 8:11:35 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: SampleMan

I suspect the cops assumed it was the man that had hit the child and over-reacted out of rage.


45 posted on 02/26/2014 8:12:53 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: skeeter

Point is, you said you have to wait to see what clinical cause of death was, but clinical cause of death isn’t a factor if it was brought on by the cops actions.


46 posted on 02/26/2014 8:15:23 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: skeeter
If it happened the way the headline says then heads should roll. But the story itself reads somewhat differently. Need more info.

Agreed. I'm far from a jackboot-licker, but the headline seems inflammatory based on everything i've read, however, the guy is dead over a minor deal, so something clearly went wrong.

47 posted on 02/26/2014 8:15:31 AM PST by Travis T. OJustice (I miss you, dad.)
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To: cuban leaf
One way or the other these police were responsible for the man's death.

I do draw a distinction between cops like these and the Fullerton cop who told Kelly Thomas he was going to "f*** him up", pulled on vinyl gloves and beat him to death.

But they were produced by the same system that is becoming as much a threat to the law abiding as the criminal.

48 posted on 02/26/2014 8:17:08 AM PST by skeeter
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To: SampleMan

See post 48.


49 posted on 02/26/2014 8:18:01 AM PST by skeeter
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To: FamiliarFace

Thanks for the link. If not for Brit news, we’d be in the dark on many issues.


50 posted on 02/26/2014 8:19:41 AM PST by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us of Obama’s America)
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