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Hunger Ravaged Starving Hordes Gather In Syria: “The Devastation is Unbelievable”
SHTF Plan ^ | 2/26/14 | Mac Slavo

Posted on 02/26/2014 4:09:08 PM PST by Kartographer

For most Americans the crisis is over. For the people of Syria, war rages on and the fight for survival continues.

According to The Daily Mail, over 120,000 people are without food, water, medicine and essential services in Syria’s capital city of Damascus. Many are starving to death. Humanitarian aid has been slow to come amid complications with Syrian leadership, continued fighting in the country and the sheer size of the population requiring assistance.

This is what it looks like when a country’s entire infrastructure is completely destroyed and its safety nets fall apart.

People searching for resources as far as the eye can see…

(Excerpt) Read more at shtfplan.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Society
KEYWORDS: preparedness; preppers
Hundreds of men, women and children fight to get to the front of the queue as a refugee camp in Damascus receives food parcels after being cut off for months.

Today the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) called on rebel forces and Al-Assad’s troops alike to allow ‘safe and unhindered humanitarian access’ to thousands of civilians in Yarmouk, a Palestinian district in the Syrian capital.

Yarmouk has seen some of the worst fighting in the capital, leading to severe food shortages and widespread hunger.

‘The images are at once epic and personal. Row upon row of gaunt faces, serried ranks of grimy, raged figures; the delicate, hunger-ravaged features of children waiting in line for an UNRWA food parcel; the face of a mother creased in grief for a deceased child; tears of joy as a father is reunited with a long-lost daughter.

‘These are the vignettes of inhumanity that have become the regular fare of nightly news bulletins. They are UNRWA’s daily reality.’

Obama's plan for America


1 posted on 02/26/2014 4:09:08 PM PST by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!


2 posted on 02/26/2014 4:09:41 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

From this article: Hundreds of men, women and children fight to get to the front of the queue as a refugee camp in Damascus receives food parcels after being cut off for months.

Its your choice you can prep or you can stand around on a bridge waiting for FEMA to bring you a bottle of water, a MRE, a warm blanket and a kiss for your boo-boo and maybe you can even get your picture as you stand there on the national news.

Look what happens every Black Friday and that’s just Christmas shopping, look what happened recently during the winter storms in the south and the northeast. Look at what is happening in the Ukraine, Venezuela, Argentina, Thailand and so on....The world is dry tinder just awaiting the right spark.

So listen to what the bible says: A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it. NIV Proverbs 22:3

Selco and other experinced real world SHTF survivors have covered the fact that many times people just can not except that a breakdown is occurring even as they watch it happening before their eyes. Why don’t they realize it? It’s caused by a condition called ‘Normalcy Bias’ a mental state people enter when facing a disaster.

It causes people to underestimate both the possibility of a disaster occurring and its possible effects. This often results in situations where people fail to adequately prepare for a disaster, and on a larger scale, the failure of governments to include the populace in its disaster preparations. The assumption that is made in the case of the normalcy bias is that since a disaster never has occurred then it never will occur. It also results in the inability of people to cope with a disaster once it occurs. People with a normalcy bias have difficulties reacting to something they have not experienced before. People also tend to interpret warnings in the most optimistic way possible, seizing on any ambiguities to infer a less serious situation.

A good article on ‘Normalcy Bias’ is on our own ChocChipCookies Blog The Survival Mom:

http://thesurvivalmom.com/2010/12/29/normalcy-bias/

You either prepare and stand on your own beholden to no one or you become dependent on others to provide your basic needs and become their ‘serf’. Me I don’t want to be beholden to anyone for providing what is needed for me and mine. I certainly don’t want to have to kiss some ‘gubberment’ third class bureaucratic to try and coax some help from them, I don’t want some ‘jack booted’ thug herding me in line and telling me where to stand, sit, eat or sleep. And last but not least I don’t want to be shut up in with a bunch of ‘zombies’ and have to worry about not only trying to get basic necessities but having to fight to keep what I manage to get.

Just getting started or an old hand you might find my Preparedness Manual helpful. You can download the manual at:

http://tomeaker.com/kart/Preparedness1j.pdf NOTE! THIS IS A FREE DOWNLOAD. I DO NOT MAKE ONE CENT OFF MY PREPAREDNESS MANUAL!

For those of you who haven’t started already it’s time to prepare almost past time maybe. You needed to be stocking up on food guns, ammo, basic household supplies like soap, papergoods, cleaning supplies, good sturdy clothes including extra socks, underwear and extra shoes and boots, cash (I myself have been putting up change for the past few years both for the metal content and the fact that using change places to make what purchases you can will move you down the the list of possible marks during shtf), tools, things you buy everyday start buying two and put one up.

As the LDS say “When the emergency is upon us the time for preparedness has past.”

Again I like to recomend FReeper’s ChocoChipCookie Blog The Survival Mom (Please Blog Police let this one slide!) Where you can get lots of useful information like:

http://thesurvivalmom.com/2011/11/20/8-morale-boosters-for-any-worst-case-scenario/

http://thesurvivalmom.com/2010/02/02/survival-priorities-the-rule-of-three/

And More

Also there is Ferfal’s Blog a survivor of Argentina’s first collapse:

http://ferfal.blogspot.com/

And there is Selco’s Blog a Bosnian War survivor at:

http://shtfschool.com/

“There is no greater disaster than to underestimate danger. Underestimation can be fatal.”


3 posted on 02/26/2014 4:13:13 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
over 120,000 people are without food, water, medicine and essential services in Syria’s capital city of Damascus.

In other news, Bashar and Asma Al Assad are having for dinner, as a first course Osetra Caviar, Dry-Aged Rib Eye Beef, Fingerling Potato Velouté, Quail Eggs, Crisped Chive Potatoes, and as the second course Winter Garden Salad, Petite Mixed Radish, Baby Carrots, Merlot Lettuce with Red Wine Vinaigrette.

I hate governments.

4 posted on 02/26/2014 4:26:11 PM PST by bkopto (Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free.)
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To: Kartographer
Obama's plan for America

Yes. Only the willfully blind cannot see it.
5 posted on 02/26/2014 4:26:58 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: Kartographer

Where is the humanitarian relief from other Muslim nations?
Did it get lost? Sent to the wrong country?

What’s up?


6 posted on 02/26/2014 4:48:21 PM PST by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: PA Engineer
Obama's plan for America

King Obama knows that food is a powerful weapon.

He already directly controls the food for a record number of the people via food stamps.
The latest numbers are that almost 47 million receive food stamps.

And how many additional millions rely on those 47 million people for food?

Obama knows that people who do not need to rely on the government for food and sustenance are independent, free willed and difficult to bring under the thumb of government.

That is why all of his policies have the effect of weakening the middle class.
I say he is intentionally waging a War On The Middle Class.

If people cannot find jobs to support and feed themselves and their families they are easier prey for an aggressive oppressive tyrant like Obama.


7 posted on 02/26/2014 5:00:03 PM PST by Iron Munro (Eight died on that bridge at Concord, back in 1775. How many will it take this time?)
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To: Kartographer

M4L


8 posted on 02/26/2014 5:00:45 PM PST by Scrambler Bob ("The Pen" has a nice ring to it, kind of like "Graybar Hotel")
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To: Iron Munro

And dried up the food from Calif.


9 posted on 02/26/2014 5:01:58 PM PST by Scrambler Bob ("The Pen" has a nice ring to it, kind of like "Graybar Hotel")
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To: Kartographer

Gee, that is what a siege is like.
Maybe if they surrendered and helped the Syrian Military drive out the Al Qaeda and Moslem Brotherhood mutants, then the NGOs could get in there with emergency supplies?


10 posted on 02/26/2014 5:05:42 PM PST by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: Iron Munro

Agreed.


11 posted on 02/26/2014 5:11:55 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: Iron Munro

The savages kill for sneakers or trample, beat and kill for sales at walmart, what do you think they will do when thier hungry? Turn off the food stamps turn on the walking dead


12 posted on 02/26/2014 5:14:31 PM PST by ronnie raygun (zippy the a##clown sez..............................)
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To: Kartographer

BTTT


13 posted on 02/26/2014 5:15:19 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Coming to a community near you (eventually)...


14 posted on 02/26/2014 5:40:03 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Kartographer; greeneyes; JRandomFreeper; Old Sarge; All
I read that, then clicked on the link in the article about what will happen to people who have no preparations, even though I had read it before.

To cut to the bottom line of preparing, assume there is no power and won't be any power, then prepare to replace what no power takes away. Doing that, will prepare a person for any emergency that happens whether it is natural caused or human caused.

It is that assumption of no power and it isn't coming back, that started my prepping in 1998. That is still my assumption as I continue to fine tune my preps.

Hurricane season begins June 1, and few people will notice or care until the last minute if one comes their way, then they will strip the stores as usual if they get there before everything is gone. Happens every time. Buying food and bottled water and regular batteries for their flashlight, will not replace what loss of power takes away.

People are complacent in this country since water and food is so near. They can't imagine it won't be there. Some who went through a bad hurricane in the northeast (New Jersey/New York area) now know what can happen and how long the aftermath can last.

We don't know what will happen in this country, so why not have some survival insurance along with your car insurance, house insurance, healthcare insurance, and life insurance?

15 posted on 02/26/2014 5:46:40 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Iron Munro

Did you notice in the last week there have been a couple of different stories on the amount of food that Americans waste.

Lets see if the MSM picks up the pace and starts hyping the amount of food being wasted and how people overseas are starving while Americans waste food.


16 posted on 02/26/2014 5:51:36 PM PST by IMR 4350
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To: Marcella

assume there is no power

That too, is where I begin my Preps.


17 posted on 02/26/2014 6:14:35 PM PST by Paisan
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To: Paisan
“assume there is no power That too, is where I begin my Preps.”

Good for you. That type preparing gives you peace of mind. You won't panic if an emergency happens.

When a hurricane is approaching, I know for damn sure I'm losing power, so I bring out the substitutes for power and have them in place when the power fails. When it fails, I still have TV to be able to see what is happening in the area down to Galveston and still have a working phone, etc.. There is not much disruption in the household once the replacements are set up. I'll tell you the biggest change and it is QUIET, when power goes off, it is absolute quiet. Some people say they like that or would like that but it is not true. It is abnormal and it works on one’s nerves, a person may get nervous/anxious and tempers are likely to flare due to the quiet that is abnormal.

18 posted on 02/26/2014 6:34:02 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Kartographer

The hour is late.

Those who have eyes to see already know: Something wicked this way comes.

None of us know exactly what, when, or how. But make no mistake: Something wicked this way comes.

Kartographer has been trying mightily to sound the alarm, to convince people they must prepare, and to give them tools to do so. Thank you for that, Kartographer.

But the majority of the people in our beloved land cannot be reached by any human alarm. They are living in denial and cannot be reached. They will not see this coming until it is already upon them. And then it will be too late.

The same comment applies to many, many Freepers.

May God have mercy on our souls.


19 posted on 02/26/2014 6:47:39 PM PST by EternalHope (Something wicked this way comes. Be ready.)
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To: Little Ray

Syrian Military, Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda, Syrian Military. Fire, Frying pan. Frying Pan, Fire.


20 posted on 02/26/2014 8:02:49 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: EternalHope

“And it shall come to pass in that day, that the great trumpet shall be blown, and they shall come which were ready to perish in the land of Assyria, and the outcasts in the land of Egypt, and shall worship the Lord in the holy mount at Jerusalem.” Isaiah 27:13

Three things are mentioned here along with “in that day” meaning I believe within the context of the day of the Lord, the end of the age,

1. Believers are “ready to perish in the land of Assyria”
2. there are “outcasts” from the land of Egypt
3. The “great trumpet shall be blown”

I believe the ‘Great Trumpet’ is the Trump of God Paul mentions, and is in fact the same one from Exodus 19, being blown the second time,

Pray for those Christians suffering persecution in Egypt and those attempting to escape the fighting in Syria and in all of the middle east to the Ukraine and to Venezuela,

Pray for the the peace of Jerusalem,


21 posted on 02/26/2014 8:05:28 PM PST by captmar-vell
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To: captmar-vell
Isaiah 17:1 Behold, Damascus will cease from being a city; And it will be a ruinous heap.
22 posted on 02/26/2014 9:02:46 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: hal ogen
Yep. I'm afraid so. I gave away 30 day food packs for Christmas to the older grandkids. I got a couple of funny looks, until I told them you don't have to wait 25 years to use this stuff, but I want a review on everything you use. Let me know what you like or dislike about it. About a month later, round roast was selling for $10/lb. in the stores (boomtown prices), and this is a food producing region, too. With the large influx of people from elsewhere, I no longer have as much faith in their abilities to survive winter without power, but then I have been surprised at some of the folks walking in bitter wind chills with relatively few clothes on. They have acclimated well or are simply fairly tough. You do what you must.

All the preps in the world are nice, but won't mean a thing if/when the torches come out--although ability to defend your position will. Everyone should have a plan to be mobile, a realistic one, with arms, food, and gear--something they can carry. weigh the load, get weights and stuff them in a pack and wear it around the house a little. It will give you an idea of whether your plans are realistic or not (most are not). You will be able to tell where people went by the trail of discarded stuff, at least for the first couple of miles...

As for me, I pray I have enough wisdom and knowledge to be valuable to a community of snake-eaters somewhere, I'm too gray around the muzzle to hump a ruck very far on a daily basis, and would hinder any fast-moving column.

23 posted on 02/26/2014 9:49:14 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: IMR 4350

A large chunk of that wastage is spoilage of perishable foods and a lot of it happens during the supply chain. IIRC a story said it was about half the food is wasted in the US but it is not like people are just tossing food away intentionally. By the time food reaches your home you aren’t tossing out half of what you have under normal conditions. Of course the degree of how finicky you are varies as some will toss a bruised banana and others will eat it. If you live in third world conditions you might scavange for food in garbage dumps.


24 posted on 02/26/2014 10:13:48 PM PST by xp38
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To: EternalHope

I am so screwed.


25 posted on 02/26/2014 10:35:12 PM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Kartographer

If one side wins, the shooting stops, for the most part.


26 posted on 02/27/2014 4:47:48 AM PST by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Thanks Smokin’ Joe,

Many prophecy watchers have always assumed it would come instantly, as if in one day, and yet here it is over many months, it appears to be a ruinous heap already, if those pictures from the link are accurate,


27 posted on 02/27/2014 5:10:11 AM PST by captmar-vell
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To: captmar-vell
That's a very interesting take. Does the ruin of Damascus mean it is leveled by a nuclear bomb, as I think many have thought? Or, is Damascus, by way of the pictures in the article, now, in fact, a ruinous heap?
28 posted on 02/27/2014 6:02:33 AM PST by Obadiah (I Like Ted.)
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To: IMR 4350
"Did you notice in the last week there have been a couple of different stories on the amount of food that Americans waste."

Here Are The Countries That Spend The Most On Food

29 posted on 02/27/2014 7:07:22 AM PST by blam
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To: xp38

Remember one of Obama’s favorite quotes “White folks greed leaves the world in need”.

Obama went on to talk about a cruise ship throwing away more food in one day than a Haitian sees in their life.

It doesn’t make any difference to their objective as to where the food is being “wasted” as they claim.

With their claim, the objective they are working into with a step by step progression, is because Americans are wasting food, people around the world are going hungry.

Americans need to stop wasting food.

Their objective, they want to control the food supply.

It’s all going to be presents as King Zippo, being such a great leader, addressing the skyrocketing cost of food.

It will start off with people being told it’s to stop “waste” of food which causes the price of food to skyrocket.

Then it will progress to “rich people” and Preppers, “hoarding” food they don’t need and driving up the cost of food for everyone else.

Preppers will then become another word for “the rich”.

Notice what they are doing in California?

They are shutting off water to farmers to drive up the price of food.

The food stamp crowd will be presented as the model citizen because they only buy a limited amounts of food and only in amounts they need. They don’t buy food they don’t need and hoard it like the “rich” and “Preppers” do.

Anyone paying for their own food without govt assistance will be called “rich”.

Prepping will be called “hoarding” and “hoarding” will be called “waste”.

The left mindset in this country isn’t any different than the left’s mindset in any other country.

Absolute control of the people is always their objective.

Control the food and you control the people.


30 posted on 02/27/2014 7:26:59 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: blam

“White folks greed leaves the world in need” one of Zippo’s favorite quotes.

“It’s those rich white folks countries wasting food that causes shortages for everyone else and causes the price of food to be out of reach for other folks”

That’s where they are headed with the “wasting food” stories.

Bank on it.


31 posted on 02/27/2014 7:33:46 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: Marcella
To cut to the bottom line of preparing, assume there is no power and won't be any power, then prepare to replace what no power takes away.

I've come to accept the truth that we are God's children and, like the benevolent Father He is, I believe He'll take our toys away from us, if for no other reason than to get our attention again.

Fortunately, we have a rich and not too distant history full of all sorts of muscle powered mechanical devices and food prep and storage in a non-electrified world.

Unfortunately, far too many are clueless about this history and want nothing to do with anything less technical than an smart phone.

Thanks and gratitude go to those like Kartographer for being our modern Noahs and speaking to ears that can hear.

32 posted on 02/27/2014 8:17:15 AM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: IMR 4350
Here you go...as you predicted:

31 Percent Of All Food In America Is Wasted – And Why That Is About To End

According to a stunning new report from the U.S. Department of Agriculture, nearly a third of all food produced in the United States gets wasted. We are probably the most wasteful society in the history of the planet, and we are also one of the most gluttonous.

33 posted on 02/27/2014 9:21:25 AM PST by blam
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To: blam

That’s one of the things I read the other day which leads me to believe they are going after the food.

Bill Clinton started this crap of controlling the amount of food people can buy because of “waste” and causing food prices to go up, sometime back in 1992 or 1993 IIRC.

When the Moocher first started her “healthy eating” and “healthy food” campaign I knew they were going to be targeting the control of what and how much food you could buy or even have in your possession.


34 posted on 02/27/2014 9:48:49 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: EternalHope
Something wicked this way comes.

Something wicked is already here.

35 posted on 02/27/2014 9:53:08 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Kartographer

Those planes you see flying overhead during summer aren’t looking for marijuana; they are looking for gardens.


36 posted on 02/27/2014 9:54:45 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: xp38

What bothers me too is how you define waste. I compost my veggie and fruit waste, so while I don’t eat it, I don’t consider it pure waste.


37 posted on 02/27/2014 10:08:56 AM PST by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: Kartographer
I pray for people like this every day. I pray God is merciful for these and vengeful of those who put these people in this position!!!
Learn from this America!!!! You CAN be this country!! You WILL be this country!!
38 posted on 02/27/2014 10:43:41 AM PST by 4everontheRight (And the story began with..."Once there was a great nation......")
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To: Kartographer

America 2024:

According to The Daily Mail, over 120,000 people are without food, water, medicine and essential services in America’s capital city of Washington, DC. Many are starving to death. Humanitarian aid has been slow to come amid complications with Democratic and GOP leadership, continued fighting in the country and the sheer size of the population requiring assistance.

This is what it looks like when a country’s entire infrastructure is completely destroyed by civil war, and its economy and safety nets fall apart under 33 trillion dollars in debt.

People are searching for resources as far as the eye can see. Last Century’s Great Depression and the previous century’s War Between The States were mere disturbances compared to this.


39 posted on 02/27/2014 12:31:21 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The PASSING LANE is for PASSING, not DAWDLING)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I’m old but healthy. I could possibly live 10 more years.

The future scares me to even consider. I seem to be unable to plan for the long term that it might take to actually come to this scenario.

I am not at all sure what you describe is impossible, or that it is possible for me to survive.


40 posted on 02/27/2014 2:20:30 PM PST by 3D-JOY
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To: 3D-JOY
"I’m old but healthy. I could possibly live 10 more years."

Ditto.

My preps are starting to get old.
I scrambled and was prepared for the crash that was 'certain' to happen in the summer of 2010.
I just don't know anymore....

41 posted on 02/27/2014 3:13:50 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Remember in the 1950s thru 1980s when American farmers fed the world? Remember? Then we became the bad guys to the enviro-weenies.


42 posted on 02/27/2014 5:45:18 PM PST by SisterK (behold a pale horse)
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To: Obadiah

Yeah interesting to wonder, and I don’t think Damascus has reached that point, but who really know what things are like on the ground, the mainstream media in this country is consumed with trivial nonsense and puff stories designed to make this administration appear competent,

The current images and especially that image from the link is horrifying, so much so I had to wonder if was Photoshopped,

I don’t believe the prophecy about Damascus requires instant destruction, however sudden destruction is very clearly outlined for rich and wealthy ‘Babylon the Great’ at the time of the end. She lives too well, better than others, and falls in one hour of one day from a surprise attack,

Looking at the pictures of the fighting in the Ukraine, the protests in Venezuela and elsewhere, and while these kinds of things have always been, it does remind me that even during the tribulation period (which has not started yet) there will be poor people and rich people and buying and selling and in many places business as usual (until its their turn) despite increasingly bad things coming upon the Earth,

My point being, the picture in the link looks a whole lot like what we might think of as happening in what Jesus himself called the ‘great tribulation’ if that scene was in NYC or Seattle,

I think that we in America, sheltered in the past from so many of these things, often have prophetic tunnel vision thinking its only the tribulation if its happening on our doorstep, or everywhere at once,

I maintain that when this world (principalities and powers, Satan) using the USA/UN or whoever or whenever to accomplish the division and separation of what God restored in 1948 (Israel) and 1967 (Jerusalem), then this will be when the tribulation follows, it will occur after that event, and I wouldn’t pretend know how soon, whether days, weeks or years, but only that it will be after,

And if this nation with these spiritually wicked men in power here today, do play some evil role in causing that division, then those same kinds of scenes pictured in Syria will come here,


43 posted on 02/27/2014 8:17:10 PM PST by captmar-vell
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To: blam

I am tired of rotating food!

I have a couple of sets of 25 year foods too. I would have to be over 100 years old!

I have had to update first aid supplies in bug out overnight outfit, bug out 3 day bag, 7 day rolling bag, and long term survival duffle-bag for the car.

Now I had to add a bug-back bag in case I am away from home and have to cross the river to get to my supplies.

I know “Be Prepared” is the way to be, but it has been several years now! Not complaining about that! Never would be fine too!


44 posted on 02/27/2014 9:22:00 PM PST by 3D-JOY
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To: SisterK
I do remember.

As member of the US Navy in the early 60's, I remember when we went ashore in foreign countries how we were greeted with much respect, etc.

In the bars, everyone wanted to buy us a drink and talk and just be around us.

45 posted on 02/27/2014 9:22:23 PM PST by blam
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To: captmar-vell

I appreciate your insights. I’m sure you have seen Obama/Kerry’s most recent Mideast peace plan. If not, you need to Google it. Their plan is to divide up Jerusalem in addition to trying to get Israel to give up other areas.


46 posted on 02/28/2014 4:26:08 AM PST by Obadiah (I Like Ted.)
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To: blam

I am glad that you know the glory we used to enjoy.
Sigh.


47 posted on 02/28/2014 5:36:17 AM PST by SisterK (behold a pale horse)
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