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[T]he moments before police officer fatally shot newlywed firefighter in downtown KC
The Kansas City Star ^ | February 25, 2014 | Donna McGuire

Posted on 02/26/2014 8:38:36 PM PST by Uncle Chip

As he lay bleeding on a downtown Kansas City street, newlywed Anthony Bruno mouthed “Don’t let me die” to a bystander who had rolled him on his back to check two gunshot wounds.

On the pavement nearby, Police Officer Donald Hubbard felt himself drifting in and out of consciousness. Blood dripped from his broken and battered face. He tried to get up but fell back.

The bystander, who happened to be a critical care nurse in a hospital trauma unit, could not find Bruno’s pulse. She asked Hubbard to apply pressure to Bruno’s wounds while she began chest compressions. Hubbard crawled to her as sirens sounded in the distance, according to documents released Tuesday by police.

Soon an arriving police officer asked what direction the gunman had fled.

Hubbard looked up.

“I shot him,” he said.

Multiple witnesses described elements of that scene to investigators trying to piece together what led to an off-duty Kansas City police officer fatally shooting an off-duty Kansas City firefighter who had been celebrating his November wedding in the early hours of Dec. 1....

(Excerpt) Read more at kansascity.com ...


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itPY54C_guM

While being beaten, Kansas City police officer shoots suspect

1 posted on 02/26/2014 8:38:36 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itPY54C_guM


2 posted on 02/26/2014 8:40:25 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Will his buddies buy him a round of drinks for this?


3 posted on 02/26/2014 8:40:36 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

It looks justified to me. I don’t know what led up to the moment that the cop saw the need to arrest him, but the moment the firefighter started beating the cop is the moment it became a justified shooting.


4 posted on 02/26/2014 8:43:24 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Uncle Chip

I think he was gonna say, “Dont fight the cop or he will shoot you.”


5 posted on 02/26/2014 8:43:57 PM PST by Delta 21 (If you like your freedom, you can keep your freedom. Period.)
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To: Uncle Chip

Don’t pick a fight with a gun. Suicide by cop.


6 posted on 02/26/2014 8:45:45 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: Jonty30

At some point, maybe it was justified, but it looks like incompetence to me. Why police officers now find it optimal to end up killing something is amazing.


7 posted on 02/26/2014 8:46:39 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Uncle Chip

As someone else has noticed, the final situation is a lot like the Trayvon Martin / George Zimmerman confrontation.


8 posted on 02/26/2014 8:48:05 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Jonty30
It looks justified to me.

Me too -- and it went to the Grand Jury as well and they no billed.

9 posted on 02/26/2014 8:49:52 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: nickcarraway

So, in your opinion, the cop is obligated to allow himself to be beaten to death because the other guy was a better or stronger fighter?

If you fight a cop, you deserve everything that happens to you.


10 posted on 02/26/2014 8:50:21 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: nickcarraway

Exactly what part would you describe as incompetence? If you mean the part where you make a juvenile and totally inappropriate joke in your previous post, then I agree with you.


11 posted on 02/26/2014 8:53:29 PM PST by bramps (Go West America!)
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To: Jonty30

Did you watch the video? Shouldn’t a police officer be able to handle a drunk, unarmed man without being overpowered? If a person is incompetent as this officer maybe they shouldn’t be out on the street for their own good?


12 posted on 02/26/2014 8:54:28 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: bramps

I would describe allowing yourself to be overpowered by an unarmed drunk man as being incompetent. I’m just talking about how police are supposed to be able to handle themselves.


13 posted on 02/26/2014 8:56:06 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Jonty30; bramps

Why would an armed police officer end up rolling around on the ground with a suspect? Doesn’t that violate the protocol of how this is supposed to be handled?


14 posted on 02/26/2014 8:57:32 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Uncle Chip
Looks justified. I don't know why he was arresting the guy, but whatever the reason, the firefighter was being fairly uncooperative, and then started beating the cop over the head. Any citizen in the same situation would have been justified in applying deadly force, as the police officer did.

Tag him and bag him. He was clearly stronger than the officer and had the cop not shot the guy, he himself might have been killed. The cop did right IMHO.

15 posted on 02/26/2014 8:57:48 PM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: nickcarraway

“The Brunos had imbibed as well, but neither was drunk, Stephanie later told police.”

Stephanie is the wife of the “drunk.”

No mention of blood alcohol levels.


16 posted on 02/26/2014 8:59:39 PM PST by JoeDetweiler
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To: nickcarraway

Some people become a-holes when they’ve been drinking. If the cop was the type of cop that would use his gun first, there wouldn’t have been a wrestling match in the first place.

You just seem the type of guy that likes cops being killed unnecessarily.


17 posted on 02/26/2014 9:01:21 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: nickcarraway

I consider most of what you post on this forum to be incompetent —

Why do you allow yourself to do it???


18 posted on 02/26/2014 9:01:38 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Why did the security guard (off duty LEO) attempt to arrest this guy?
He was off duty. Working for someone other then the City though in his uniform.
He left the place he was working to walk after the man even though the man at that time was seemingly doing nothng but walking down the street.


19 posted on 02/26/2014 9:01:48 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2014 and the Crusades 2014?)
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To: Jonty30

DITTO. Cop was armed security and in uniform. Fireman was too drunk to know better. Once he broke the grip and start striking the officer in the head hard, officer must stop it or he can lose concience and the attacker may access his gun. Shooting is justified.


20 posted on 02/26/2014 9:02:02 PM PST by Fee ( Big Gov and Big Business are Enemies of America)
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To: nickcarraway
Why police officers now find it optimal to end up killing something is amazing.

I agree with you. This is an overweight drunk guy. The cop could have gotten away from him and waited for back up. We don't know what started this, but I can't imagine what would warrant an immediate execution. The worst of death row gets 25 years of appeals.

21 posted on 02/26/2014 9:02:25 PM PST by PistolPaknMama
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To: nickcarraway

Some people like to throw fists at cops when they get drunk. Odds are the cop tried to handle the situation tactfully, but the drunk decided to get physical.


22 posted on 02/26/2014 9:03:00 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Uncle Chip

Having read the story and watched the video, I have to say the shootings looks completely justified. As another poster mentioned, it looks an awful lot like what was described in the Zimmerman case. That guy was wailing on the cop when he got shot.

And, is it me, or are the people taking the video kind of d-bags? You see a couple struggling with a subject, the cop asks you to call for help, and you stand there and critique the cop’s techniques. I’m not saying they should have physically intervened, but you can film and call 911 at the same time, you dooshes. Also, saying “don’t fight the cop” is usually not very effective in stopping people willing to beat up a cop.

At any rate, I’m sorry the guy died, but you can’t start Trayvonning an armed man, much less a cop, and not expect consequences.


23 posted on 02/26/2014 9:03:02 PM PST by DemforBush (A Repo Man is *always* intense.)
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To: Uncle Chip

So the firefighter beat up a cab driver, almost gets into a fight with some guys who came over the help the driver, starts a fight with an off-duty cop and almost beats him to death.

But the firefighter’s wife says he wasn’t drunk, so he can’t even blame the booze. Wonder how many other fights he’d been in.


24 posted on 02/26/2014 9:05:09 PM PST by GrootheWanderer
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To: Jonty30

I don’t think a cop should ever be killed. or a citizen.


25 posted on 02/26/2014 9:05:25 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

OK...according to this site Mr Bruno’s blood alcohol level was 0.21....that’s pretty drunk.

http://www.heavy.com/news/2014/02/anthony-bruno-donald-hubbard-police-shooting-video-watch/


26 posted on 02/26/2014 9:06:04 PM PST by JoeDetweiler
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To: PistolPaknMama
"...but I can't imagine what would warrant an immediate execution."

Its the risk you run when you pin someone and beat their face. Trayvon tried it, this guy tried. Doesn't end well when the guy you are beating has a gun.

27 posted on 02/26/2014 9:06:50 PM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: nickcarraway

With all due respect, you only had a problem with the cop shooting the guy. You didn’t say a word about the drunk trying to beat the cop to death.


28 posted on 02/26/2014 9:06:55 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Uncle Chip
A stupid argument over cab fare ends up tragically. The firefighter is a big guy and not being very cooperative. The cop seems out of shape... At one point, it did look like maybe the cop was trying to drop a knee on the guys head or neck.
29 posted on 02/26/2014 9:07:06 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Jonty30

I very much didn’t want this cop to be injured. Which is why he shouldn’t be out on the street until he knows what he’s doing.


30 posted on 02/26/2014 9:07:10 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Uncle Chip

The Cop was working as Security at the hotel. What are the laws regarding arrest by a Security Officer in that State? Once he puts on a Security Uniform does he lose his powers cited to off duty cops?

Different places in the world have differing arrest laws and citizen’s power of arrest. Just curious as here in Australia even though we have the right to make a citizen’s arrest it can be a minefield if not done correctly and in this case once the felony had ceased it is better to let the perp walk if they insist and give the cops the information on the guy - most don’t know this and will usually follow instruction.

Mel


31 posted on 02/26/2014 9:07:16 PM PST by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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To: nickcarraway

You live in the same fantasy world as the idiots that filmed the video. I’d guess you would’ve just stood there also just like them and blame the cop because the other guy wouldn’t cooperate. Cops aren’t all supermen with magical powers. You watch too much tv.


32 posted on 02/26/2014 9:07:21 PM PST by bramps (Go West America!)
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To: Uncle Chip

I know you’ve told me I am a terrible Reaganite conservative before. Sorry.


33 posted on 02/26/2014 9:08:04 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: SECURE AMERICA

The fireman attacked the cab driver. Go back and read the story.


34 posted on 02/26/2014 9:08:37 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: nickcarraway

Guess what, the cop was seriously injured in the assault.

The Kansas City Star reports that Hubbard suffered serious injuries from the attack and was taken to a hospital, where he required facial reconstructive surgery. He had a broken eye socket, a fractured cheekbone, severe facial cuts, and a loss of feeling.

He was at a real risk of being beaten to death.


35 posted on 02/26/2014 9:08:45 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Uncle Chip

Don’t know what led up to that but, looks justified.to me.

If you have good cause to fight a uniform you better win and subdue him.

You hit any man in the face and it’s gonna end badly.

Sorry about the new bride’s loss.


36 posted on 02/26/2014 9:09:05 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: bramps

I don’t watch TV. I think you live in a fantasy world. Show me one place that says this is the proper protocol to deal with this situation. No police officer would say it is.


37 posted on 02/26/2014 9:09:54 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: melsec

In most places in the states, a cop is always a cop whether he was on duty or not.


38 posted on 02/26/2014 9:09:54 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Uncle Chip

Justifiable homicide. Open and shut.


39 posted on 02/26/2014 9:10:12 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: nickcarraway
Why would an armed police officer end up rolling around on the ground with a suspect? Doesn't that violate the protocol of how this is supposed to be handled?
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Why don't you tell us the exact protocol? You must know since it was so obvious to you that it was violated by the cop you felt it merited a joke.
40 posted on 02/26/2014 9:10:18 PM PST by bramps (Go West America!)
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To: Jonty30

Exactly. You are making my point. This guy almost got himself killed because he’s not trained properly. I will say, it’s his superiors or whoever let him out on the street’s fault more.


41 posted on 02/26/2014 9:11:50 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: melsec

If he’s a fully-certified law enforcement officer, he’s got all his official powers 24-hours a day, on duty or off.


42 posted on 02/26/2014 9:12:51 PM PST by GrootheWanderer
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To: nickcarraway

I’m a belligerent a-hole and I’m causing trouble. You come up to me and tactfully try to get me to calm down. I start punching you in the face.

Can you please tell me a possible protocol that could have been used to cause me to stop punching you in the face?


43 posted on 02/26/2014 9:14:26 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

I read in the story Mr. Guy de Corps Morte had already beat a cab driver and was looking for a world title in kicking ass while drunk


44 posted on 02/26/2014 9:14:44 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: nickcarraway
Show me one place that says this is the proper protocol to deal with this situation.

Show me where the off-duty firefighter/newlywed was following his protocol either.

45 posted on 02/26/2014 9:15:49 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

He already started fighting a cab driver. He needed to be arrested. Isn’t that what police officers are supposed to do?


46 posted on 02/26/2014 9:17:22 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

LOL!

I remember that....


47 posted on 02/26/2014 9:17:58 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: nickcarraway

Exactly. They guy had already shown that he was a danger to other people. That’s the end of it right there. The moment he became physical with the cop was the moment the cop had a right to shoot.


48 posted on 02/26/2014 9:18:50 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: nickcarraway
He needed to be arrested.

He was trying to arrest him but the firefighter was resisting arrest.

Are you sure that you are competent enough to post on this forum???

49 posted on 02/26/2014 9:20:48 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Jonty30

He chased the guy.


50 posted on 02/26/2014 9:21:36 PM PST by nickcarraway
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