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The Mammoth Cometh
The New York Times ^ | 27 Feb 2014 | NATHANIEL RICH

Posted on 02/27/2014 11:44:06 AM PST by Theoria

Bringing extinct animals back to life is really happening — and it’s going to be very, very cool. Unless it ends up being very, very bad.

The first time Ben Novak saw a passenger pigeon, he fell to his knees and remained in that position, speechless, for 20 minutes. He was 16. At 13, Novak vowed to devote his life to resurrecting extinct animals. At 14, he saw a photograph of a passenger pigeon in an Audubon Society book and “fell in love.” But he didn’t know that the Science Museum of Minnesota, which he was then visiting with a summer program for North Dakotan high-school students, had them in their collection. He was shocked when he came across a cabinet containing two stuffed pigeons, a male and a female, mounted in lifelike poses. He was overcome by awe, sadness and the birds’ physical beauty: their bright auburn breasts, slate-gray backs and the dusting of iridescence around their napes that, depending on the light and angle, appeared purple, fuchsia or green. Before his chaperones dragged him out of the room, Novak snapped a photograph with his disposable camera. The flash was too strong, however, and when the film was processed several weeks later, he was haunted to discover that the photograph hadn’t developed. It was blank, just a flash of white light.

In the decade since, Novak has visited 339 passenger pigeons — at the Burke Museum in Seattle, the Carnegie Museum of Natural History in Pittsburgh, the American Museum of Natural History in New York and Harvard’s Ornithology Department, which has 145 specimens, including eight pigeon corpses preserved in jars of ethanol, 31 eggs and a partly albino pigeon.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: dna; extinction; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; jurassicpark; lmammoth; mammoth; mammoths; opinion; pleistocenepark
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Note. Not a michelle thread.
1 posted on 02/27/2014 11:44:06 AM PST by Theoria
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To: Theoria

Bring back a species whose habitat has disappeared and would not be able to survive anyplace on the planet.

Now THAT’S a worthwhile endeavor.


2 posted on 02/27/2014 11:46:57 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“...The first time Ben Novak saw a passenger pigeon, he fell to his knees and remained in that position, speechless, for 20 minutes. He was 16. At 13, Novak vowed to devote his life to resurrecting extinct animals. At 14, he saw a photograph of a passenger pigeon in an Audubon Society book and “fell in love.”..

Most boys that age are chasing girls...

This one’s chasing pigeons.

Um...yeah..ok...


3 posted on 02/27/2014 11:49:34 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Theoria

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgOQIo42oc0


4 posted on 02/27/2014 11:50:07 AM PST by DManA
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To: Buckeye McFrog
I hope so! Other wise our fight to bring back Conservatives will be wasted.
5 posted on 02/27/2014 11:50:25 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Theoria

> Note. Not a michelle thread.

Wouldn’t such a thread have “Sasquatch”, “Wookie”, or “Gorilla” in the title?

Memorable and applicable lines from Redd Foxx:

“Why’n’choo go stick yo’ face in some dough an’ make gorilla cookies?!”

... or ...

“Why’n’choo go sleep on a rubber pillow and erase yo’ face?!”


6 posted on 02/27/2014 11:50:31 AM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Theoria

> Note. Not a michelle thread.

LOL I needed a good chuckle.


7 posted on 02/27/2014 11:51:16 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Yeah but they are woolly!

We’ll need woolly animals if it gets much colder due to Global Warming.

Plus, this will justify massive land graps to protect an endangered species that is no longer really endangered because we can bring it back at any time.

/Sarcasm mode on hyperbole


8 posted on 02/27/2014 11:51:32 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: Theoria

MMMMmmmmmmmm!!!

Mammoth burgers!


9 posted on 02/27/2014 11:51:40 AM PST by RandallFlagg ("I said I never had much use for one. Never said I didn't know how to use it." --Quigley)
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To: Theoria

Hmm...I could use a guard mammoth. BTT


10 posted on 02/27/2014 11:51:41 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Bring back a species whose habitat has disappeared and would not be able to survive anyplace on the planet

Yep. There's a reason why species go extinct. It's been happening for 100's of millions of years, and will continue on so long as the planet is habitable.

And, to those who say "Man caused (XXXX) to go extinct!!!!", remember that man is a species, too. It's no different than if the passenger pigeons were all eaten by saber-toothed tigers.

just my $0.02.

11 posted on 02/27/2014 11:52:56 AM PST by wbill
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To: NFHale

DEAD pigeons.


12 posted on 02/27/2014 11:53:11 AM PST by DManA
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To: NFHale
Usually, the stories that I see on FR are about crazy women and their irrational love for chickens.

Guess this is a man bites dog (or man loves pigeon) story.

13 posted on 02/27/2014 11:54:07 AM PST by wbill
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To: DannyTN
We’ll need woolly animals if it gets much colder due to Global Warming.

Yeah, I thought of that. I'd let mine inside on the cold days. Train it to use a litter box. A big litter box.

14 posted on 02/27/2014 11:54:32 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: RandallFlagg
MMMMmmmmmmmm!!! Mammoth burgers!

Just wait until you get some ribs.


15 posted on 02/27/2014 11:58:19 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Republican amnesty supporters don't care whether their own homes are called mansions or haciendas.)
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To: Theoria

Seattle is digging a tunnel under the waterfront. They found a 50,000 year old mammoth tusk which they sent to the University of Wash. Maybe our friend can restore it back to life. Who know what more prehistoric animals live down under the waterfront. The UW could have real zoo with our friends help.


16 posted on 02/27/2014 11:58:20 AM PST by Vinylly
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To: Theoria

Lets bring back giants, Chimeras, and all those forbidden beasts.


17 posted on 02/27/2014 12:00:04 PM PST by mountainlion
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To: mountainlion
Transhumanism is a dream to many.
18 posted on 02/27/2014 12:02:08 PM PST by Theoria (End Socialism : No more GOP and Dem candidates)
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To: wbill

Chickens, pigeons... eh.. Love is a fowl thing, sometimes...


19 posted on 02/27/2014 12:05:39 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Billthedrill
Yeah, I thought of that. I'd let mine inside on the cold days. Train it to use a litter box. A big litter box.

John Deere probably makes scoop that you can use to clean that litter box.

20 posted on 02/27/2014 12:07:36 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Billthedrill
Yeah, I thought of that. I'd let mine inside on the cold days. Train it to use a litter box. A big litter box.

John Deere probably makes scoop that you can use to clean that litter box.

21 posted on 02/27/2014 12:07:36 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: DManA

That makes him a necropigiac...

or something....


22 posted on 02/27/2014 12:11:04 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: DannyTN; Billthedrill

So... when you say

“Wow.... I need to take a Mammoth Dump” you wouldn’t be kidding, would you... (the scene from Jurassic Park, with the Triceratops Poop Pile comes to mind)....

Damn...


23 posted on 02/27/2014 12:13:17 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Theoria

Hello???? We don’t need Carrier Pigeons anymore, we have the Internet.

We have an overabundance of Pigeons (and Pigeon Poop!) So bringing back Carrier Pigeons by the BILLIONS is a bad idea.


24 posted on 02/27/2014 12:15:12 PM PST by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Theoria

This guy sounds like Fink-Nottle and his obsession with newts. (From the PG Wodehouse stories)


25 posted on 02/27/2014 12:16:49 PM PST by Disambiguator
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To: Theoria

“and a disk of pure nickel inscribed with 1,500 languages that has been mounted on the Rosetta space probe.” ...

Yea, that’s not going confuse the potential alien discoverers at all.


26 posted on 02/27/2014 12:17:16 PM PST by Usagi_yo (Standardization is an Evolutionary dead end.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
My favorite scene from Jurassic Park is when that lawyer gets eaten by a T-Rex while taking a dump.
27 posted on 02/27/2014 12:19:44 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: wbill

Bring back the saber-toothed tiger and t-rex.


28 posted on 02/27/2014 12:21:11 PM PST by bgill
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To: Theoria

That would be interesting. A real life mammoth, and Ted Nugent can kill it just to make liberals heads explode.


29 posted on 02/27/2014 12:24:32 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: NFHale; Billthedrill
My girlfriend has a poodle. And every once in awhile, after going out side to do it's business, it'll come in and there'll be some hanging from the hairs on her backside. She'll have to get some wipes and clean the poodle up.

BilltheDrill better keep his mammoth well trimmed, or he'll have a mammoth clean up job.

Just things you might not have thought about.

30 posted on 02/27/2014 12:25:49 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN; Billthedrill

Well, if the “unthinkable” happens - the mammoth can always store a crate of wipes in the trunk...

(baddaBING!)

And whenever you think YOU’RE having a “bad day at work”, remember THIS poor bastard...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytWgovxo3eA

Talk about “getting into your work”... Whew!


31 posted on 02/27/2014 12:32:09 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: DannyTN
Just things you might not have thought about.

Well, yeah, and a responsible mammoth owner needs to get that sort of thing straight from the beginning. I don't want my tombstone to read "Here lies BilltheDrill, squished while trying to trim a mammoth's butt with a weed-eater." For one thing, that much script would be expensive.

32 posted on 02/27/2014 12:36:07 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: NFHale

I can see youtube at work. But your lead in, makes me think of Ed Norton on the honeymooners who worked in the sewers.


33 posted on 02/27/2014 12:36:08 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: NFHale
can't see at work..
34 posted on 02/27/2014 12:39:43 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

Picture elephant...

Picture college kid cleaning elephant cage BEHIND elephant...

Picture elephant backing up, and SITTING on college kid...

Picture college kid’s HEAD stuck up elephant’s rear end, and both elephant AND college kid are screaming...

Picture college kid’s co-worker tugging on kid to REMOVE said cranium from elephant’s rear end... and let the retching and puking begin.

Yeah...


35 posted on 02/27/2014 12:40:39 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Theoria

Dr. Ian Malcolm: Oh, yeah. Oooh, ahhh, that’s how it always starts. Then later there’s running and screaming. (The Lost World - Jurassic Park)


36 posted on 02/27/2014 12:42:56 PM PST by Leroy S. Mort ("Don't say sh*t unless you know for sure it helps." - Raylan Givens)
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To: Billthedrill; DannyTN

And whatever you do, DON’T feed the Mammoth “Beefareeno”...

Mammoth methane is an environmental disaster waiting to happen, because you know, you just KNOW, some damn fool is going to light a match the MOMENT that tail goes up...


37 posted on 02/27/2014 12:43:06 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Theoria
Transhumanism is a dream to many.

It is also a nightmare that brought on the Flood.

38 posted on 02/27/2014 12:46:45 PM PST by mountainlion
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To: Theoria

“In less than three hours, Church responded with a detailed plan to return “a flock of millions to billions” of passenger pigeons to the planet.”

Just what are the unintended consequences of that? What ecological niche will it inhabit or takeover? What will be kicked out of that niche?


39 posted on 02/27/2014 1:08:11 PM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: NFHale
Most boys that age are chasing girls...
This one’s chasing pigeons.


Like that character Wally Cox used to play on The Beverly Hillbillies?


40 posted on 02/27/2014 1:13:37 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: KrisKrinkle

Ebb and flow. That is nature itself.


41 posted on 02/27/2014 1:16:16 PM PST by Theoria (End Socialism : No more GOP and Dem candidates)
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To: NFHale

somthin bout that boy just ain’t right.

I agree.


42 posted on 02/27/2014 1:18:39 PM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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43 posted on 02/27/2014 1:36:56 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: NFHale

LOL


44 posted on 02/27/2014 1:43:08 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Theoria

Passenger pigeons OK. T-Rex not so much. :-)


45 posted on 02/27/2014 1:48:30 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: DannyTN

World’s worst job.


46 posted on 02/27/2014 1:50:40 PM PST by Chickensoup (leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: Chickensoup

I was kind of thinking, that I’d be standing more to the side than that. She’s sort of trusting that there’s not going to be a sudden change in velocity and/or consistency.


47 posted on 02/27/2014 1:57:24 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

You are using forethought and reason. Not the strong suit of someone who is doing that sort of job.


48 posted on 02/27/2014 2:08:40 PM PST by Chickensoup (leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: Chickensoup

Somebody has to flip my hamburgers. Kind of hope it’s not her though.


49 posted on 02/27/2014 2:28:15 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Buckeye McFrog

If he was on Beverly Hillbillies, he’d BETTER have been chasing Ellie Mae...

Good lord, she was a beautiful hottie.


50 posted on 02/27/2014 2:39:56 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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