Skip to comments.Same-sex marriage now legally recognized in KY
Posted on 02/27/2014 12:27:34 PM PST by Olog-hai
A federal judge on Thursday signed an order directing officials in Kentucky to immediately recognize same-sex marriages performed in other states and countries.
U.S. District Judge John G. Heyburn II issued a final order throwing out part of the states ban on gay marriages. It makes official his Feb. 12 ruling that Kentucky's ban on same-sex marriages treated gay and lesbian persons differently in a way that demeans them.
Same-sex couples may change their names on official identifications and documents and obtain any other benefits of a married couple in Kentucky. The order doesnt affect a related lawsuit seeking to force the state to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples.
The order came just hours after the Kentuckys attorney general asked for a 90-day delay. The two-page filing says the delay is sought to give that office time to decide whether to appeal the Feb. 12 ruling and would give the state an opportunity to prepare to implement the order.
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Judges don’t have law making powers, did someone forget that?
The KY jelly is gonna flow tonight.
Seems to have been forgotten way back in 1973.
Apparently so. Take it to the 6th Circuit.
Hmmm. Seems to be a rash of these “decisions” lately.
Collusion between the Just Us Department and judges?
They aren’t looking at the rule of law anymore for guidance.
No. Our America has changed. Not for the better mind you but it has changed.
It IS what judges are supposed to do . . . decide if laws are unconstitutional so it kind of falls on deaf ears with me that judges are “legislating” or :activist” because, well, people pick and choose solely based on rulings they like. It’s a dead end argument.
Our attention should be focused on getting our word out. teaching people about conservatism. Right now we have NO leaders. not a single one. even the ones I like are not leaders. Leading it pulling a group together to follow, not just getting them to cheer something you do.
All approach now is all finger in the dike (yeah I get the pun). We lead, or we die. Right now, it is decidedly “B: I don’t care WHAT happens this November. This is a long game and we are losing badly.
Having laws that permitted slavery did not give any moral legitimacy to pretending that one man could be the property of another man. Similarly, having laws that permit gay “marriage” does not give any moral legitimacy to pretending that one man could be the spouse of another man. They seem to be winning the battle to pretend that these relationships are marriage, but changing the words does not change reality no matter how much the far left wishes that would work.
That does it.
I’ve known three awesome women since moving out of my Mommy’s house 35 years ago.
I think I’ll marry them all.
Since we won’t be alone so often I figure there won’t so much disagreement with each other.
Besides, they’ll have to compete with each other for my affection or we can work out an arrangement.
We are, after all, consenting adults and should be allowed to enter into any relationship we desire.
It’ll be a threefer wedding and I’ll save some cash on the whole shu bang....
Bill of Rights
Section 1. Rights of life, liberty, worship, pursuit of safety and happiness, free speech, acquiring and protecting property, peaceable assembly, redress of grievances, bearing arms.
All men are, by nature, free and equal, and have certain inherent and inalienable rights, among which may be reckoned:
First: The right of enjoying and defending their lives and liberties.
Second: The right of worshipping Almighty God according to the dictates of their consciences.
Third: The right of seeking and pursuing their safety and happiness.
Fourth: The right of freely communicating their thoughts and opinions.
Fifth: The right of acquiring and protecting property.
Sixth: The right of assembling together in a peaceable manner for their common good, and of applying to those invested with the power of government for redress of grievances or other proper purposes, by petition, address or remonstrance.
Seventh: The right to bear arms in defense of themselves and of the State, subject to the power of the General Assembly to enact laws to prevent persons from carrying concealed weapons.
Section 2. Absolute and arbitrary power denied.
Absolute and arbitrary power over the lives, liberty and property of freemen exists nowhere in a republic, not even in the largest majority.
Marriage is between one man and one woman. Therefore, marriage is not possible between one man and one man or one woman and one woman or any combination other than one man and one woman. Hence, states are not obligated to recognize a marriage where one doesn’t exist. Where in the Constitution does it say that the federal government has any powers regarding sexual or marriage matters? If the Constitution doesn’t enumerate it then it doesn’t exist.
Its a free for all. Homosexual marriage is supported by half the country and nearly all the elites, including politicians in both parties. The half of the population that is opposed is apathetic and beaten down, so the judges have nothing to fear.
The same is true of border enforcement and identity theft.
Anarchy rules the day.
There is no law anymore.
I totally agree that marriage is only between a man and a woman. I think that gays think they have won the day, but they are wrong. States did not decide on this issue. It is being forced on them. As such, the issue will not die. It will not be settled. And as more and more people see the gay lifestyle up close and personal, I think the tide will turn. One day, the homosexual lobby will deeply regret what they are doing now.
Back when slavery/segregation were legal and court sanctioned, they were still obviously immoral, seeing a human being whipped or hanging from a tree produces a visceral reaction which is hard to explain away. Homosexual right are more complex because they come with a whole worldview that justifies this as the moral thing to support while smearing the moral opposition as immoral itself. Alot more devious and hard to oppose.
When Constitutional law is judge made and not rooted in the text and design of the Constitution it does not approach illegitimacy it is illegitimate root and branch .Justice White/Bowers v.Hardwick —”Human laws must be made according to the general laws of Nature,and without contradiction to any positive Law of Scripture ,otherwise they are ill made.” John Locke Of civil Government Book two XI 136 n. Wm.Blackstone “... law of Nature being coeval with mankind and dictated by God,Himself,is of course superior in obligation to any other.It is binding over all the globe in all countries,and at all times; no human laws are of any validity if contrary to this...Upon these two foundations, the law of nature and the law of revelation,depend all human laws; that is to say,no human law should be suffered to contradict these.” (Commentaries on the Laws of England, quoted by Hall christian history of the Constitution,pp 140-146-as published by John Eidsmoe Christianity and the Constitution.Baker Books paperback pp58;61 Notes 13 and 21
Note: in the Gospels according to Matthew chapter 19: verses 4-6—and before that was written,Make chapter 10: verses 6-8
Jesus,that Rabbi from Nazareth Teaching on the borders of Judea Across the Jordan— Was asked by a group of Pharisees —”is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for any reason?” The Pharisees were a lot like ACLU attorneys today,
Jesus answered “Have you not read that He which made them at the beginning made them male and female,and said ‘For this cause shall a man leave his father and his mother,and shall cleave unto his wife,and the two shall become one flesh...”Thus Jesus pointed to the Law ‘dictated by God,Himself” to Moses as we today can see reflected in Genesis chapter 1: verse 27;and Chapter 2 verse 24.James Teaching American Law at the College of Philadelphia n a lecture on the consequences of Marriage reflected the Scripture when he said “under American law the two become one.”And that is the foundation of our American Law on Marriage— so when any Judge says we must Now accept same sex marriage under American Law —that Judge is divorced from Blackstone and Locke—and Wilson and the rest and his opinion is ill made and invalid.
All the sheep prepared for the slaughter —the go along to get along crowd The American Nation of cowards that Eric Holder talked about
“Hmmm. Seems to be a rash of these decisions lately.”
That’s because SCOTUS opened the floodgates with their decisions on DOMA and Prop 8. They’re begging for these cases to start coming before them.
Every other day one of these democrat “judges” tries to overrule the will of the people with this nonsense.
You can bet your bottom dollar this is on orders straight from Barry Bathhouse. Don’t know how many state Attorney Generals are democrats, but it’s all coming from them. They just tell the democrat judge to say it’s illegal.
It’s getting to be laughable and any state that has a republican governor needs to say these new orders to override the will of the people will not be enforced.
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