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‘Pineapple Express’ pattern for drought stricken California is shaping up
Whatsupwiththat.com ^ | 2/28/2014 | Anthony Watts

Posted on 03/01/2014 9:05:00 AM PST by rktman

Wet weather is again hitting drought-stricken California as the second and larger of two back-to-back storms makes its way ashore. The storms are part of an atmospheric river, a narrow channel of concentrated moisture in the atmosphere connecting tropical air with colder, drier regions around Earth’s middle latitudes.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Weather
KEYWORDS: rain; snow
Not enough to save the '13/'14 ski season around Tahoe. But bring it on. Much needed in NWestern NV too.
1 posted on 03/01/2014 9:05:00 AM PST by rktman
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To: rktman

Already the state is saying the deluge from yesterday did NOTHING to put a dent in the drought.

Their way of saying they want to use the old crisis to tax us some more or to restrict our behavior.


2 posted on 03/01/2014 9:06:57 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: rktman

Plenty of snow here for the tourists. The slopes are pretty well covered.

If you like to spend your time in the backcountry, we could use a few more feet - especially closer to lake level.


3 posted on 03/01/2014 9:11:03 AM PST by tahoeblue
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To: rktman

The complaining about too much rain has already begun....


4 posted on 03/01/2014 9:14:12 AM PST by Regulator
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To: A CA Guy
Already the state is saying the deluge from yesterday did NOTHING to put a dent in the drought.

That is because they intend to use all the water to save the delta smelt rather than feed the farms.

We got 1/4 of our annual rainfall yesterday.

5 posted on 03/01/2014 9:19:10 AM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: P-Marlowe

Our government is already starving the world by converting lots of corn crops to crops for fuel, now this?

Our government elites tend to show on their best days maybe the brains of a Spice Girl.


6 posted on 03/01/2014 9:21:53 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

Spice Girls have brains? Who knew?


7 posted on 03/01/2014 9:23:58 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: RIghtwardHo

Obama is more than Scary Spice, he’s SCARY SCARY SCARY Spice.


8 posted on 03/01/2014 9:27:08 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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Woo Hoo!

Less than $5.1k to go!!

9 posted on 03/01/2014 9:29:10 AM PST by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: A CA Guy

“Already the state is saying the deluge from yesterday did NOTHING to put a dent in the drought.

Their way of saying they want to use the old crisis to tax us some more or to restrict our behavior.”

We call them the drought Nazis.

When fascists control our water, they control us.

One of the water control facist groups in the south bay got caught releasing at least a million gallons of water before the latest storms hit.


10 posted on 03/01/2014 9:30:50 AM PST by Grampa Dave ( Obozo Care is a Trinity of Lies! Obozo Care is probably a serious Black Swan event.)
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To: rktman
Joseph Bastardi says:

February 28, 2014 at 1:11 pm

There is no connection to Hawaii moisture, their precipitable waters are well BELOW NORMAL and a look at the evolution reveals this is coming out of the northern branch, from the west northwest . What are we growing pineapples south of Alaska now.

Its nonsense. SST are very warm in North Pacific and helping, I am posting on weatherbell.com now to show what nonsense this is as a look at past 48 hours reveal this coming from the wnw with no connection to tropics, since precipitable water is BELOW NORMAL.

Typical lump something together under a convenient idea. Weather much more complex than that.

11 posted on 03/01/2014 9:32:26 AM PST by Excellence (All your database are belong to us.)
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To: Grampa Dave
Grampa, my memory goes back to our own Obama mayor Tom Bradly. When he wasn't telling everyone to riot over Rodney King which burned down LA, he was saying they were going to tax the hell out of us because of the 11 year drought.
As soon as he said that we were swimming in water and he had to stop that threat.

They are hideous people in government IMO. We need to get better people that want good function and a modest price.
Also need to retire tons of government employees which is a taxpayer expense to the private sector to make them tax payers instead of tax takers.

12 posted on 03/01/2014 9:35:08 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: rktman

Unfortunately, no perfect amount of rain or sun will ever save us from relentless doomsday weather propaganda.


13 posted on 03/01/2014 9:38:07 AM PST by TauntedTiger (Keep away from the fence!)
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To: P-Marlowe

“...they intend to use all the water to save the delta smelt rather than feed the farms”

‘Zackly. The farmers in the Central Valley are solidly Conservative, and the Sacramento Democrats want to drive them out of business and weaken the politics of the one area in the State that they don’t control. 75% of this drought (for farmers, anyway) is man-made.


14 posted on 03/01/2014 9:50:46 AM PST by happyathome
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To: rktman

I love the “pineapple express.” Just got back from a 3 mile walk in the South Bay hills with a constant light warm drizzle and the sun peaking through the clouds now and then. Everything is fresh and clean...FINALLY. Dear old Dad used to call it “just a spritz.”

Still so dry in the hills that the creeks aren’t even flowing yet. The land is just soaking up the water as it comes down. The Guadalupe River was pretty full yesterday at 237...sure hate to see all that water flowing into the bay.


15 posted on 03/01/2014 9:52:57 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: A CA Guy

To boil down your excellent remarks and my lesser ones re the drought Nazis.

Our California cities and counties mini czars are so broke paying themselves, the unions, their illegals and other tax suckers, they seize any opportunity to increase taxes er fees.

Since we need water to survive, they create pumping fees and levels of use fees with higher prices on each level.


16 posted on 03/01/2014 9:57:25 AM PST by Grampa Dave ( Obozo Care is a Trinity of Lies! Obozo Care is probably a serious Black Swan event.)
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To: A CA Guy

Heard on radio some places got EIGHT inches and that did not help? Wow.


17 posted on 03/01/2014 9:58:34 AM PST by RetiredArmy (MARANATHA, MARANATHA, Come quickly LORD Jesus!!! Father send thy Son!! Its Time!)
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To: tahoeblue

No doubt. I checked the caltrans cams yesterday and it looked like rain around Stateline and at the weigh station. That sux. We may drive up to the lake this week.


18 posted on 03/01/2014 10:11:28 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme),unemployment will necessarily skyrocket! Despite the % dropping. Period.)
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To: A CA Guy
We need to get better people that want good function and a modest price.

Unfortunately, human nature is such that hoping for better people in charge is a pipe dream. This is the perpetual promise of the left-wing intellectuals. They dismiss all previous failed attempts at communist nirvana as "not real Communism" because, OBVIOUSLY, those who tried it before were not nearly as smart as today's crop of left-wing intellectuals. Just give us command of the guns and the keys to the treasury, they wheedle, and it will be different next time! But somehow, the People's Republic of True Scotsmen never arrives. Ice cream mixed with s#*t is still s#*t.

All you can do is design government in such a manner that leaders are forced and/or incentivized to make decisions that maximize liberty and keep a boot on the neck of the busybodies. Our forefathers mostly got it right after the Revolution, but it has decayed for at least a hundred years. Someday I hope we get the chance to replace it with something that will really knock the Inspector Javerts into their own cocked hats.

19 posted on 03/01/2014 10:13:59 AM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Yeah, ruining the salt levels. Somebody ought to do something about that. How about a dam. Oops. Too many salamanders or something. Never mind.


20 posted on 03/01/2014 10:19:06 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme),unemployment will necessarily skyrocket! Despite the % dropping. Period.)
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To: Grampa Dave

AND: they send celebritards out telling us to use low pressure toilets and to only use one square of toilet paper.

Yeah, they find any excuse to tax and play the class or race card to extract more from some than others.


21 posted on 03/01/2014 10:25:57 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: RetiredArmy
Heard on radio some places got EIGHT inches

That's almost a year's worth around here.

22 posted on 03/01/2014 10:26:21 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: rktman

Just for fun - any Freeper who drives thru Placerville (Old Hangtown) on their way to Tahoe and stops at the old wagon stop “3 Mile House” a.k.a The Smith Flat House

I will buy you a Beer My staff in the old cellar saloon has been directed to serve you even if Im not there

you only need leave your freeper ID as payment and say Conforti sent you

If Jim Robinson shows up he gets any meal of his choice, wife included


23 posted on 03/01/2014 10:29:53 AM PST by jcon40
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To: RetiredArmy

Lots of SNOW would be the big factor and also hopefully tons of the white stuff dropped where the run off goes to a lake or reservoir where water is drawn from.

Does us no good if it runs off where we don’t collect it.

Big question, knowing our water issues, why doesn’t CA never build more reservoirs for collecting the rain?
Been here for decades and you never hear a drive to build more when we need them.


24 posted on 03/01/2014 10:30:53 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: ccmay
Very true and the topping on the cake is that Democrats further ban a potential challenger by taking only the two top vote getters in a primary and not one from each party, so we have Democrats going against Democrats in elections.

Will work till the day this crashes and turns around, then when you have two non-Dems in elections you will get complains of non-representation, minority suppression and of course RACISM...

What a bunch of losers in this world these days.

25 posted on 03/01/2014 10:33:59 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
Big question, knowing our water issues, why doesn’t CA never build more reservoirs for collecting the rain?

Because we need a chu chu train much more than water..

26 posted on 03/01/2014 10:40:06 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: jcon40

Thanks. We would have to drive past the lake to get to you but what the heck. We might just pop in some afternoon. ;>}


27 posted on 03/01/2014 10:40:47 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme),unemployment will necessarily skyrocket! Despite the % dropping. Period.)
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To: dragnet2
THAT is the typical Democrat pattern of finding ways to employ government unions in exchange for laundering money back to the Democrat party and to build a paid for voter base.

Want to bet the person getting pay or a benefit or EBT and all their families mostly vote Democrat for the treasury? They are part of the flim flam and that is how Democrats stay in power. They have their fists in the Treasury.

28 posted on 03/01/2014 10:44:21 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: RetiredArmy

Storms off the Pacific are often highly localized and fast moving. You’ll get pockets of 8” rainfall but not too many miles away zero. Too much, too fast and the water just flows to the Bay and Ocean. What really counts is the storms hitting the Sierras and depositing snowpack which melts in the summer and fills the reservoirs.


29 posted on 03/01/2014 10:51:33 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: A CA Guy

Shasta Lake is up almost 10 feet in a month.

More rain is helpful but the storms need to arrive colder so the snowpack can recover.

We’re in the 40s up here in Alaska, we are trying to push the cold air south to the west coast but it’s heading east instead.


30 posted on 03/01/2014 10:58:17 AM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: rktman

Call ahead so I can be sure to meet you. if you make a special trip I guess I’ll have to extend the free beer offer to anyone you bring with you

would love to serve a fellow Freeper at the old bar (built 1853)

smithflathouse.com

hope to see you the more advance notice the better

Thx

John


31 posted on 03/01/2014 10:58:34 AM PST by jcon40
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To: jcon40
Just for fun - any Freeper who drives thru Placerville (Old Hangtown) on their way to Tahoe and stops at the old wagon stop “3 Mile House” a.k.a The Smith Flat House

Is this a year round offer? :-)

I'm in Alaska now but we go to the Reno Air Races every year and could drop by on the way.

32 posted on 03/01/2014 11:02:10 AM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: jcon40

Well, it would be about a 125 mile trek for us so it ain’t happenin’ today. LOL! We’ll let you know in advance. If you want, send me a FReemail so I can hang on to the info rather than trying to go back through all the comments.

Thx
Bill


33 posted on 03/01/2014 11:04:14 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme),unemployment will necessarily skyrocket! Despite the % dropping. Period.)
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To: hattend

Yep just talked to my wife and she says Yes to any Freeper Anytime

just contact me AHEAD of time

smithflathouse.com

phone number on website

leave message for John


34 posted on 03/01/2014 11:07:28 AM PST by jcon40
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To: Excellence

I’ll go with Joe, no rain after this last pulse for a couple of weeks at least.


35 posted on 03/01/2014 1:01:05 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: RetiredArmy
Heard on radio some places got EIGHT inches and that did not help? Wow.

What counts most is what hits the Western Slope of the Sierra Nevada mountains.

36 posted on 03/01/2014 1:05:27 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Mike Darancette

http://www.wunderground.com/wundermap/?lat=34.52376175&lon=-117.19862366&zoom=8&pin=Apple%20Valley%2c%20CA

I don’t know how well this link will work for you, but...
Pan out so you can see the whole Pacific. Turn off weather stations and radar. Turn on satellite. Go to settings (that little gear thing). Choose Infrared and sensitivity at 120, opacity at 100. Now look north of Hawaii. You’ll see the eye of this system, and a spiral to the east headed straight for California. The northwest edge of the spiral is sucking air from the Bering Sea/Gulf of Alaska. This, I think, is why Joe says this is not a pineapple express situation. One would assume that spiral is headed generally east, but it’s not a good idea to assume. Ask Joe. But he’s otherwise occupied today.


37 posted on 03/01/2014 1:51:29 PM PST by Excellence (All your database are belong to us.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Yup. I know. Lived in Sodom on the Sound (Seattle) for 14 years.


38 posted on 03/01/2014 4:06:12 PM PST by RetiredArmy (MARANATHA, MARANATHA, Come quickly LORD Jesus!!! Father send thy Son!! Its Time!)
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