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Will Windows 9 be the New Windows 7?
Yahoo/Consumer Reports ^ | 3-1-14

Posted on 03/01/2014 2:23:21 PM PST by kingattax

It hasn't been long since Microsoft upgraded Windows 8 with Windows 8.1. But that doesn't mean it's too soon to start speculating about Windows 9. And Windows users are definitely speculating, even though rumor has it the next version won’t be out until April 2015.

We asked Consumer Reports' Facebook followers what their expectations are for Windows 9. A few are looking for "Windows 7" (and even "Windows XP"). But others would like to see Windows continue to evolve, with better security, less resource hogging, and an even simpler interface.

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1 posted on 03/01/2014 2:23:21 PM PST by kingattax
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To: kingattax; ShadowAce

bump


2 posted on 03/01/2014 2:26:29 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: kingattax

If it’s anything like Windows 8, I will be an Apple user.


3 posted on 03/01/2014 2:45:39 PM PST by CMailBag
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To: kingattax

Not if it has metro.


4 posted on 03/01/2014 2:45:47 PM PST by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: kingattax

I am still using Windows 7 and like it very much so it seems to me that Microsoft could do a lot worse than have to Windows 9 be the new Windows 7. I managed to skip the worst of the Windows bombs (Vista, Windows 8) with the exception of ME. What a turd that was.


5 posted on 03/01/2014 2:46:55 PM PST by GATOR NAVY
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To: kingattax

Nope¡¡¡

It will suck like all Microscope®


6 posted on 03/01/2014 3:10:51 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: kingattax
Mail should support POP3 mail.

Uh, no. If you want your mail accessible by multiple platforms POP3 is not the way to go.

There really isn't much left that I do on a regular basis that I can't do under Linux. Some games, maybe. I'm using Win8.1 to post this and it's adequate but not enough better than 7 for me to pay for separately. If it hadn't come with the box I wouldn't be using it.

Metro must die.

7 posted on 03/01/2014 3:22:18 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Vendome

I’m updating a manual using a win7 computer so it looks new (screen captures etc.). But right next to it is my 32bit winxp computer. The win7 pc is a 64bit processor, years newer supposedly faster than my winxp box.

Winxp box is very noticeably faster than the newer more powerful win7 pc.

I know this is anecdotal, but it is what it is.


8 posted on 03/01/2014 3:24:25 PM PST by bicyclerepair (TERM LIMITS .......... TERM LIMITS .......... TERM LIMITS)
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To: bicyclerepair

Both have same RAM.


9 posted on 03/01/2014 3:26:27 PM PST by bicyclerepair (TERM LIMITS .......... TERM LIMITS .......... TERM LIMITS)
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To: GATOR NAVY

Windows 8.1 is a fine operating system.

Just saying.


10 posted on 03/01/2014 3:29:08 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ( http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

How many machines got ‘bricked’ by the change because they don’t have drivers for the new system?


11 posted on 03/01/2014 3:37:07 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: kingattax

will i even care? do i want more nsa-ware?


12 posted on 03/01/2014 3:44:51 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: CMailBag

The last windows I used was vista that came on a Lenovo thinkpad. I scrubbed it and installed Linux . Then some time later, I bought a pocket computer, music player and cell phone; iPhone 3GS. Then a Mac mini, then an iMac, then an iPad.

An iPad 3 and iphone 5 later, and I’m all Apple. The Thinkpad still runs Linux, but I hardly use it anymore.

I don’t buy the latest and greatest every time a new model comes out, but Apple builds quality stuff. My 3GS sits in a dock connected to my home theater box, and I play all my synced music off it. And it’s unlocked, so I can put in a pay as you go SIM card and have a backup phone when needed.

If I had all the computing power and choices there are today, back when I was messing with TRS-80’s and PC DOS 1.0...... Wow!

I would have had a frick’n field day.

Now I just want it to work. I’ve done my time in Gatesworld - I’m done!


13 posted on 03/01/2014 3:45:35 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: bicyclerepair

Nes Ce’ Pas ...


14 posted on 03/01/2014 4:03:03 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: GATOR NAVY

Vista was light years ahead of windows 8. I have a windows 7 gamer and use windows 7 at work but I still prefer XP to both vista and windows 7. After four or five days of working with a windows 8 laptop that replaced my vista laptop when it broke I returned it and went with a mini Mac for momma. I am using an I Pad. That said I am not a real apple fan either. All I want from the computer geniuses is better performance without having to constantly learn a new user interface every time they come out with a new version. I went with the Mac because the user interface was closer to what my wife was used to and she is nervous around computers. I will NEVER buy another Windows machine again until a familiar interface is restored. Who needs all this frustration all the time.


15 posted on 03/01/2014 4:19:32 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: kingattax

Is there any FReeper who knows about and uses Windows Server?

I know people have a tendency to speak from experience, but every release of Microsoft Server, starting with Windows NT 3.51, has been a wonderful product!

Windows Server 2012 R2 is great. I even use one for a desktop/high end production workstation. I run Hyper-V server and have installed virtual machines running Linux, different versions of Windows client (XP, Vista, 7 and 8). Today I installed Linux Mint... Can’t get the virtual network card to up but I’m working on it.

I love Storage Spaces, work folders and domain join. Just excellent productivity concepts keeping up with corporate America.

And the Active Directory is king.

Just wanted to say something positive about Microsoft that few rarely discuss (or know about?) here.


16 posted on 03/01/2014 4:28:38 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: kingattax

Hubby says only the odd numbered ones are good. Well, every other one, that’s what he means.


17 posted on 03/01/2014 4:56:11 PM PST by jocon307
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To: Pikachu_Dad

I got it with a new PC.

That’s not a bad idea, though.

I actually use Linux most of the time, but I was pleasantly surprised with Windows 8.1.

I like it.


18 posted on 03/01/2014 6:54:25 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ( http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Where was that computer (and its parts) made? The US?


19 posted on 03/01/2014 7:16:20 PM PST by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: RoadGumby

Nope.

China. We really, really need import tariffs.

Just saying.


20 posted on 03/01/2014 7:18:53 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ( http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

And yet, with all your posts, you purchased it.

not much incentive for a smaller American company to stay in business building computers.


21 posted on 03/01/2014 7:22:31 PM PST by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: RoadGumby

We need import tariffs.

Just saying.

We are now over 17 trillion dollars in debt, and that is rapidly getting worse.

Rapidly.


22 posted on 03/01/2014 7:27:44 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ( http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

why tariffs? Just don’t BUY. You want the jobs back, Post after post says that. Support any American business you can then.

Buying Chinese, even with tariffs, supports not one American worker, and only enriches Fed Gov.


23 posted on 03/01/2014 7:31:05 PM PST by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: RoadGumby

The Fed Guv pays for our military.

If you starve our government, you starve our military. That is exactly what we are doing now.

We are starving our own country.

Just saying.

Bring back American jobs.


24 posted on 03/01/2014 7:34:28 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ( http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: GATOR NAVY
I am still using Windows 7 and like it very much so it seems to me that Microsoft could do a lot worse than have to Windows 9 be the new Windows 7. I managed to skip the worst of the Windows bombs (Vista, Windows 8) with the exception of ME. What a turd that was.

I'm on 7 also (stayed on XP long enough to skip Vista). I can picture them taking something from LINUX and offering a variety of desktops to choose from. Anything is better than the 8 offering, but I've heard some say they really like 8.1 with the more traditional desktop in play. I figure I have another year or two with my 7 machine before I have to make a decision.

25 posted on 03/02/2014 4:10:02 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Fed Gov can fund whatever it desires. Defund entitlements and there is more than enough money for truly legitimate functions of Fed Gov. Like for instance, the military.

None of which has any bearing on individual purchasing habits. and those habits can support US jobs.....or not.

Tariffs do not generate jobs.

Reducing govt regulatory load, business taxes, and eliminating entitlement sloth WILL generate businesses/jobs/workers.

Enjoy the computer. And pray for the revival of the church in America. Because THEN will you see a people that demands their leaders be moral and just.


26 posted on 03/02/2014 5:10:00 AM PST by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: kingattax

Windows 8 is perfectly useable on laptops and desktops. Just install http://www.stardock.com/products/start8/

A very simple install..... Do this and you get back the start button and you bypass Metro which I have not looked at in weeks

The default look of the Windows 8 very nice. I like it better than the Windows 7 look. But I use both in different computers

******** It is beyond stupid for Microsoft to have not made an easy option of no Metro and with a start button. Windows 8.1 does not bring back a real start button.


27 posted on 03/02/2014 5:20:20 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Salo; JosephW; Only1choice____Freedom; amigatec; Still Thinking; ...

28 posted on 03/02/2014 5:31:12 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: RoadGumby

I do not agree.

We have exported jobs. American jobs. We have laid off American employees, sending Americans to welfare (costing our government money, rather than having them participate in it), then replaced them with cheaper Chinese employees, and made the officers of the now “American” companies which are no longer even making things in America, richer.

China gets richer. America corporate officers get richer. But our military and everyone else in the American economy gets weaker, poorer, and worse-off.

Meanwhile we rack up ever more debt. Now more than 17 trillion.

Bring back American jobs.


29 posted on 03/02/2014 6:28:19 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ( http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Alas Babylon!

I am a systems architect and work with Windows Server day-in and day-out. As hesitant as I was to go to 2012, my company put me through the MS400 blue book classes to get my MCSE in 2012, and I will say I like it. It’s incredibly fast compared to Server 2008 R2. The Metro interface took a little getting used to, but I like that I can pin tiles to the start menu to get to my MMCs.

I love that I can create server groups in Server Manager and install roles from a single machine. That’s going to make our domain upgrades from 2008 R2 to 2012 R2 very easy, and I’m excited to start playing with some of the newer features like their split-role DHCP!

While I use Win7 at home on my gaming PC, I’m a majority Linux household. I run VMware ESXi 5 on a ProLiant server and run 100% Ubuntu 12.04 servers for my home environment. Windows has its place, but Microsoft is increasingly pushing out the run-of-the-mill home user due to clumsy deployments and upgrades that take half a day to complete.

I really don’t blame half of the FReepers in their complaints about Win8. I’ve used it in a lab environment, and it’s such a drastic change as to be off-putting. People do not like to have change foisted upon them so quickly, and since most folks on XP refused to go to Vista (can’t really blame them), they didn’t get exposed to the new desktop style, and then Win8 came out so soon after Win7 that when users looking to upgrade saw their only option was to go to Win8, many balked and are looking for adequate replacements.

Word from our MS TAM is that Win9 is going back to a more familiar style with Metro being available as an installable feature for tablets and touchscreen computers. I think this is a better way for them to go. Microsoft has always led the pack with their desktop operating systems, and most users are familiar with it. This idea that touchscreens were going to catch on like wildfire was a gross miscalculation on Microsoft’s part, and it’s nipped them in the tail. As with Microsoft’s usual deployment timelines, the odd-numbered operating systems seem to be the most well-received.

At the core of it, Microsoft has made enormous improvements in their kernels. They’ve made ground-breaking code changes to their OS core, and the MS kernel is now more secure than it ever has been. Adding an abstraction layer between the kernel and the operating system proper has made it very difficult for hackers to code to kernel exploits, thus hardening the OS overall. If you’re still using Windows XP, you’re going to regret it in the very near future, as 0-day exploits will not be patched, putting XP on par with Win98 as one of the most dangerous operating systems to deploy on a network. (If you don’t believe me, try to run a freshly installed Win98 computer on a high-speed network for more than 5 minutes. You’ll have no fewer than a dozen kernel- and driver-mode viruses.)

Microsoft gets a public black eye for their radical changes, but the truth is that you have two mainstream options: Apple with their overpriced hardware or OEMs like Dell, HP, Lenovo, Acer, etc. with cheap hardware running Windows. If you don’t want to go through the effort of blowing away a new install and using Linux, you’re going to have to learn how to love the purported evil that is Microsoft even though it does get the job done for a majority of users.


30 posted on 03/02/2014 6:38:03 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Then go ahead. Believe that all you have to do is ‘force’ these companies to bring back their businesses here, to an immoral populace. It will be for naught, nothing foundational will have changed.

We ‘exported’ those jobs by Forcing the companies to make financial choices to sidestep burdensome govt. We ‘exported’ those jobs by turning away from what is BEST for the country instead of our pocketbooks and wallets. And that turning away was on an individual and corporate level.

Until we can restore the foundations of this country (self- and God reliance, morality, LOVE of country and freedom, etc), it doesn’t matter how many jobs you ‘bring back, the coming failure still comes.


31 posted on 03/02/2014 6:46:03 AM PST by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: RoadGumby

I firmly believe we need to “force” these companies to bring back jobs to America, by charging an taruff on all imports.

We are completely ignoring half of the equation.

We have cut American costs of manufacturing. But we have also eliminated millions of American jobs, forcing formerly productive members of America’s working class, into welfare.

Costing our own government a monumental amount of money, which would have otherwise been income. Which would otherwise, have been used to provide for American military expenditures.

“Free trade” has failed.

To the tune of over 17 trillion dollars. Rapidly increasing, I might add.

It has failed. Failed.

Bring back American jobs.


32 posted on 03/02/2014 6:52:16 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ( http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: kingattax

I’ve been using Win7 64 bit since it came out. It is an excellent operating system. Because I teach Excel and Access to college students, I installed Win8 on one of my machines that I use regularly. It works but is not an improvement on Win7 in any visible way. I stuck a Win7 shell on it and have had no problems.

I use Linux for reading my email from my uncle Bob. He regularly links questionable sites. While Linux is good, it doesn’t run Excel or Access and isn’t the answer for most business desktops. (I do like Gnome Mahjong)

It would be nice if Microsoft came out with an updated version of Win7 for the vast number of business desktop users. So far, integrating touch screen and desktop operating systems has not been a great success.


33 posted on 03/02/2014 7:05:56 AM PST by FXRP
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

The govt has ENOUGH money from us. We are not starving it, they are overspending, on things that are not legitimate govt functions.

Your post reads as though you have no problem with the spending levels, just that the govt isn’t able to get its ‘fair share’ from us.


34 posted on 03/02/2014 10:33:41 AM PST by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: RoadGumby

I’m off this thread. Sorry to have hijacked this, though the topic is very important, and nobody at all, is discussing it.

China runs a MASSIVE trade surplus, with America.

Bring back American manufacturing. Now I am off this thread.

:)


35 posted on 03/02/2014 10:39:53 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ( http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Alas Babylon!

I’m using Server 2012 for my home file server. Since I’m unfamiliar with its interface and new storage spaces capabilities, I just watched a video or two on YouTube and I was good to go. 10TB of storage without breaking a sweat!


36 posted on 03/02/2014 10:44:33 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Apologies, I just figured you and I were having a conversation.

So, in parting, I agree with your premise. However, without changes, it will not happen, nor succeed.

Peace, FRiend.


37 posted on 03/02/2014 11:10:19 AM PST by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: rarestia
Interesting what you say about XP.

I have two desktops and one laptop. I have two hard drives for the laptop, one is XP and other is Windows 7. I use the W7 hard drive 99.999% of the time. The only reason I got a hard drive with XP on it is say "I have one." Once the last updates come out and Microsoft no longer patches it I'll still be able to say "I have a laptop with XP." I know, pretty vain.

On one desktop I run W7 64-bit exclusively. It's my main system. I have a hard drive rack that enables me to plug in a 2nd hard drive. It's not hot-swappable but it gives me the ability to insert different drives depending on the need.

The 2nd desktop has two hard drive racks. One hard drive rack is for the OS, W7 64-bit and XP 32-bit, and the 2nd one there for the same reason as the primary tower, to use as I see fit. I have two separate hard drives for the OS's. Sure, I could dual-boot but I prefer it this way. If I need XP, I insert the correct hard drive and turn it on. Same with W7. I plan on purchasing a 3rd hard drive to program a Linux OS but I haven't gotten around to it yet.

This computer is mainly use for three purposes: 1). recoding video (W7), 2). scanning documents using a Fujitsu scanner that will only run on a 32-bit OS. Hence the need for XP. Sure, I can use Windows 32-bit but I only have one legal license and I use it on the laptop. The 3rd function is one of maintenance. I use it with diagnosing problems with hard drives from other systems.

Both of my desktops are connected with a DVI KVM device. It's a pretty cool setup.

All that being said, when XP is no longer supported I'm going to have to be really careful what I do with it. Granted, I don't normally browse the Internet with XP, but I'll need to be careful all the same. All my computers are behind routers and have Internet Security software, so hopefully I'm relatively safe.

38 posted on 03/02/2014 12:29:36 PM PST by ducttape45
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