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New Texts Found in Caves That Yielded Dead Sea Scrolls
Live Science ^ | 3-3-2014 | Megan Gannon

Posted on 03/03/2014 1:25:38 PM PST by Renfield

An archaeologist says he discovered nine tiny scrolls with biblical text from the Qumran caves where the Dead Sea Scrolls were unearthed, according to news reports.

The newfound scrolls, which date back to about 2,000 years ago, were hidden inside three leather tefillin cases, also known as phylacteries, traditionally carried by observant Jewish men, Italian news agency Ansa Mediterranean reported. These cases were first pulled out of the caves in the 1950s, but their contents apparently were not examined until now....

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TOPICS: History; Science
KEYWORDS: archaeology; deadseascrolls; epigraphyandlanguage; godsgravesglyphs; israel; letshavejerusalem; phylacteries; phylactery; tefillin; tefillincases

1 posted on 03/03/2014 1:25:38 PM PST by Renfield
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping


2 posted on 03/03/2014 1:26:12 PM PST by Renfield (Turning apples into venison since 1999!)
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To: Renfield

3 posted on 03/03/2014 1:26:48 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Renfield

So what do the texts say?


4 posted on 03/03/2014 1:30:39 PM PST by joseph20 (...to ourselves and our Posterity...)
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To: dfwgator

Ok let’s save the mystery here what they will say...There was no divine Jesus, Jesus was merely a prophet and a disclaimer written in Aramaic in the scolls...”Do not believe the bible either Old or New testament, you are your own Gods and free to make God in your own image...oh and do not judge anyone who does anything immoral or dangerous”.


5 posted on 03/03/2014 1:31:24 PM PST by pburgh01
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To: joseph20
So what do the texts say?

"People of the future, beware of the evil thing to come into your midst. It is called Oh Bah Mah."
6 posted on 03/03/2014 1:33:39 PM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: Renfield

What is going on in my head? I read the title backwards and it came out “Dead Sea Scrolls Found In Caves In Texas”!

I think I have been watching too much of that new program on TV “America Unearthed”.


7 posted on 03/03/2014 1:34:42 PM PST by Ditter
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To: dfwgator; Renfield

8 posted on 03/03/2014 1:35:27 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: dfwgator

LOL...I really needed a good laugh today. Thanks!


9 posted on 03/03/2014 1:44:15 PM PST by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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10 posted on 03/03/2014 1:47:44 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: joseph20
So what do the texts say?

"OMG, LOL! BRB"

11 posted on 03/03/2014 1:49:35 PM PST by ZinGirl (kids in college....can't afford a tagline right now)
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To: Ditter

That’s got to be one of the worst shows on television and that Scott Wolter guy is ridiculous.


12 posted on 03/03/2014 1:50:19 PM PST by Two Kids' Dad (((( ))))
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To: Renfield

they found RARE 2,000 year old folders with wcrolls in them and waited 64 years to open them?????? makes sense to me!!


13 posted on 03/03/2014 1:52:10 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails over all else)
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To: Renfield

Interesting


14 posted on 03/03/2014 1:53:46 PM PST by ZULU (Magua is sitting in the Oval Office. Ted Cruz/Phil Robertson in 2016.)
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To: pburgh01

My question is why did they wait since the 1950’s to look at this stuff?


15 posted on 03/03/2014 1:54:24 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: SunkenCiv

PING


16 posted on 03/03/2014 1:55:23 PM PST by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: joseph20
So what do the texts say?
FYI IN RL DO A RAK. TTYL F2F.
17 posted on 03/03/2014 1:57:27 PM PST by tarpit
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To: joseph20
So what do the texts say?

According to the article, they haven't had experts read and translate them yet. But it says they were found inside tefilin (phylacteries). If so, they probably contain the same texts that Orthodox Jews have traditionally placed inside tefilin, per the rules in the Talmud: Exodus 13:1-16, Deuteronomy 6:4-9, and Deuteronomy 11:13-21.

If my guess is right, these are very old texts but tell us nothing we don't already know. If something else is on these parchments, and they are indeed from tefilin, then it shows that there were variant traditions in Second Temple times before the Talmud formalized the rules for tefilin. Which would be a significant finding in the history of Jewish religion, but probably still not that important to non-Jews.

18 posted on 03/03/2014 2:02:33 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
My question is why did they wait since the 1950’s to look at this stuff?

If I had to guess, no one realized that these phylacteries still had parchment inside of them.

Phylacteries (tefilin) are leather boxes attached to leather straps which Orthodox Jews wear on their arm and forehead during morning prayers. Inside the boxes are small parchment scrolls with passages from the Bible written on them.

19 posted on 03/03/2014 2:05:50 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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One of the texts was somewhat damaged but most of it was translated successfully.

Here I sit
Brokenhearted
Tried to (obscure)
But only (obscure)

20 posted on 03/03/2014 2:12:43 PM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Two Kids' Dad

I love that show! I think it is fascinating.


21 posted on 03/03/2014 2:16:17 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Renfield
The newfound scrolls, which date back to about 2,000 years ago, were hidden inside three leather tefillin cases, also known as phylacteries

Were these men professionals? If so, then these were the first known pro-phylacteries...protection indeed.

All kidding aside, I have long wondered how much history is just laying around in a drawer somewhere waiting to be revisited.

22 posted on 03/03/2014 2:24:49 PM PST by eldoradude (GOP - stands for Gay Obama Posse. "John" Roberts with a Boehner...need I say more?)
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To: Ditter

But he never closes out on a subject. It’s always an investigation pointing in one direction and then he hops a plane across the country to look at something else and tries to connect the two items. Or he’ll see something real, like a petroglyph, and read WAY too much into it without considering more realistic options.

The Egyptian treasure in the mysterious mythical Grand Canyon cave was a prime example. The helicopter chick says that the FAA prevents them from flying below the canyon rim and he answers back with “so the government won’t let you take me to where I think the cave is?!?” And he wants us to believe that a cave that was too difficult for him to find and reach could somehow store tons and tons of Egyptian gold that was taken there at a time when Africans didn’t even know that our continent existed, then stored in this one cave that’s impossible to get to. Oh, and it’s supposedly big enough for 50,000 people to fit in.

I’m glad that you find it fascinating and I’m not knocking you at all, but the few episodes I saw made me believe that this guy has some serious mental issues and delusions of grandeur.

By the way, has he ever found a single legitimate ancient artifact? Or is he like the bigfoot hunters that keep chasing and never finding?


23 posted on 03/03/2014 2:32:36 PM PST by Two Kids' Dad (((( ))))
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To: Two Kids' Dad

He investigates interesting artifacts that others tell him about. Can he or anyone prove that the things he investigates are actually true? How can anyone prove that carving on a rock wall is 100 years or 1000 years old? No one can but that doesn’t keep them from being interesting to consider.


24 posted on 03/03/2014 2:45:56 PM PST by Ditter
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To: joseph20

“Pound pastrami, can kraut, six bagels – bring home for Emma”


25 posted on 03/03/2014 2:55:23 PM PST by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: ctdonath2

Nice one. I recently read the book myself.


26 posted on 03/03/2014 3:00:45 PM PST by joseph20 (...to ourselves and our Posterity...)
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To: Renfield; a fool in paradise; NYer; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; ...
Thanks Renfield for posting, and thanks AFIP for the additional ping.

27 posted on 03/03/2014 4:11:54 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: joseph20

So what do the texts say?


Klatu Barunda Nectu


28 posted on 03/03/2014 4:51:58 PM PST by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: terycarl

64 years is nothing - the Smithsonian has stuff in its basement not seen since Smithson put it there in the 19th Century.


29 posted on 03/03/2014 5:15:15 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Two Kids' Dad
Well, obviously, the giant tunnels under the Jornada del Muerto of New Mexico connect to the cave. A little known branch line runs to Mount Shasta, and connects to the unbelievably and immensely ginormous cavern system there, used to this day by the Lemurians for their UFO base.

OBVIOUSLY, there is a transatlantic link that the Egyptians knew about, which is how they secretly got their treasure to the inaccessible cave in the Grand Canyon.

We know this is true, because the Egyptians, via the hidden subway station under the Sphinx, is how they kept in contact with the other secret vimana base and city under the Himalayas.

We know the secret bases and cities exist, because there is no mention of them, thereby proving they are, indeed, secret!


30 posted on 03/03/2014 6:01:02 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: ctdonath2

IT’S A BLUEPRINT!


31 posted on 03/03/2014 6:04:21 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Nah, she’ll just fall thru it and babble about hallucinations.


32 posted on 03/03/2014 6:34:32 PM PST by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: Ditter; Two Kids' Dad; SunkenCiv; All

Actually, you can determine relative age of stone carving if it is exposed to the elements. Differential weathering, growth of lickens, etc. Also, check out Gloria Farley’s book: “In Plain Sight”. It examines in great detail many rock drawings and writing in the US which could be several thousand years old and written in European and North African scripts. Especially, Celtic runes, Iberian and Libyan scripts. Also celebrating various old gods and godesses like Epona, Tanit, Anubis. Quite amazing and fascinating.


33 posted on 03/04/2014 9:46:13 PM PST by gleeaikin
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