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An Outline of The Political Significance of the Common Core
Mark Garrison ^ | January 23, 2013 | Mark Garrison

Posted on 03/04/2014 4:20:22 AM PST by GailA

Right wing think tanks have taken a principled stand against the CCSSI on the grounds that it violates the constitution and laws of the United States[6]. Folks at Schoolsmatter and Susan Ohanian are almost lone wolfs on the left in vigorously targeting the CCSSI as “authoritarian”, and exposing the role venture philanthropy (especially Bill Gates) plays in imposing the CCSSI.

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TOPICS: AMERICA - The Right Way!!; Business/Economy; Education; Religion
KEYWORDS: commoncore; destruction; education; politics; schools
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1 posted on 03/04/2014 4:20:23 AM PST by GailA
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To: GailA

IF you want more information on COMMON CORE Eagle Forum at both state and National levels will have it, each state should have it’s own chapter of http://www.eagleforum.org, TN Eagle Forum http://www.tneagleforum.org/

Common Core is DAMAGING our children.

National Takeover of School Curriculum
http://www.eagleforum.org/publications/column/national-takeover-school-curriculum.html

TN Student Speaks Out About Common Core
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PprP5TCZBRI

Exposing Common Core
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW2Xj6JrERc

An Outline of The Political Significance of the Common Core
http://www.markgarrison.net/archives/1198

What is the Problem with Common Core?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJIrD1iJLjs

Stopping Common Core National Standards and Tests
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g384XeKPnqY

MLA Hates Common Core
http://www.academia.org/mla-hates-common-core/


2 posted on 03/04/2014 4:27:23 AM PST by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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To: GailA

What is wrong with having an educational standard for each grade level that is comparable from school to school, district to district and state to state?


3 posted on 03/04/2014 4:28:27 AM PST by fso301
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To: fso301

I have no problem with a national standard in each grade level it it is appropiate for the students age, teaches core subjects of Math, Reading, Cursive, Printing and REAL history, Civics, Government, practical science.

But I do have a REAL BIG issue in teaching AGENDAS and fake history and making the USA the bad guy in this world. Did you listen to the TN HS Student? He explains it in language you or those less educated can understand and is not as boring as some of the others. Nor do I want Islam shoved down the throats of our children, no more than I want Homosexuality taught to K-3.

I suspect I am not alone in thinking this or in the fact Common Core was not put in place through the Legislative process. This will not just effect Public schools but Private ones. And will help the government rid this country of Home Schools, which is now the only place many subjects are now taught.

2+2 does not = 6, no discipline, and much more.


4 posted on 03/04/2014 4:37:38 AM PST by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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To: fso301

The same thing that is wrong with limiting human endeavor. Most people respond well to differences, not sameness.


5 posted on 03/04/2014 4:39:13 AM PST by billhilly
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To: fso301
My analysis;

WW2 exposed men from many American cultures (WV hillbillies and Boston elites, etc.) to and with each other and for some reason, the educational community said, "Hey ... let's educate them all the same", so the WV little ol' school house and the neighborhood Boston schools were torn down and students were consolidated in modern, white bricked schools with less windows (to look out through and dream) and controlled environments (temperature), which .. IMO ... was supposed to be the vehicle to standardized education.

But the Sixties happened and threw all that out the window, and the Bill Gates' were so damned successful by rollerskating around the office in cutoffs and sunglasses ... the enemy was stymied.

America is no longer on a victor's high and is pretty well demoralized, so it is time to initiate the same thing only different ...

If construction can be standardized sixteen inches on center, so can children.

That's my opinion of Common Core


The devil is in the details ... we're not talkin' about read'n, writ'n an' 'rithm'tic ... we're talkin' about hippies and n****** and queers, OH My !

and burgua's and commies, and socialism and ...

6 posted on 03/04/2014 4:41:02 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: billhilly
The same thing that is wrong with limiting human endeavor. Most people respond well to differences, not sameness.

Why should y = 2x + 3 result in a different solution anywhere in the nation?

7 posted on 03/04/2014 4:42:55 AM PST by fso301
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To: fso301

8 reasons against Common Core
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/post/eight-problems-with-common-core-standards/2012/08/21/821b300a-e4e7-11e1-8f62-58260e3940a0_blog.html

Variously motivated corporate interests, arguing that the core was being sloppily taught, organized a behind-the-scenes campaign to super-standardize it. They named their handiwork the Common Core State Standards to hide the fact that it was driven by policymakers in Washington D.C., who have thus far shoved it into every state except Alaska, Minnesota, Nebraska, Texas, and Virginia.

This was done with insufficient public dialogue or feedback from experienced educators, no research, no pilot or experimental programs — no evidence at all that a floor-length list created by unnamed people attempting to standardize what’s taught is a good idea.

It’s a bad idea. Ignore the fact that specific Common Core State Standards will open up enough cans of worms to keep subject-matter specialists arguing among themselves forever. Consider instead the merit of Standards from a general perspective:


8 posted on 03/04/2014 4:44:50 AM PST by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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To: fso301

“What is wrong with having an educational standard for each grade level that is comparable from school to school, district to district and state to state?”

Easy. If the standard is too low, or if misinformation is included in the standard, the entire scholastic population is mis or undereducated. That is part of the beauty of having INDIVIDUAL states form the union. you have many chances to get it right by learning from the mistakes of others and applying corrections where needed rather than ending up just one giant lump of stupid.


9 posted on 03/04/2014 4:51:39 AM PST by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: GailA
But I do have a REAL BIG issue in teaching AGENDAS and fake history and making the USA the bad guy in this world. Did you listen to the TN HS Student? He explains it in language you or those less educated can understand and is not as boring as some of the others.

Yes I watched the Tennessee high schooler. Just a lot of emotional hype. He offered no specifics, just hype.

I ask again, what is wrong with requiring that algebra students nationwide be able to arrive at the same solution for y = 2x + 3 ?

10 posted on 03/04/2014 4:54:24 AM PST by fso301
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To: GailA; Nachum
nachum ping list please
I think you mean, “Ping?”

This article is kinda hard to get into.


11 posted on 03/04/2014 4:55:09 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: GailA
Variously motivated corporate interests, arguing that the core was being sloppily taught

does that mean pre-CC curricula was being well taught?

12 posted on 03/04/2014 4:55:50 AM PST by fso301
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To: fso301

The left has demonstrated the nature of their work.

You can be certain every brilliant idea of the left will result in the opposite of the initial claimed intent.


13 posted on 03/04/2014 4:57:21 AM PST by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: bk1000
Easy. If the standard is too low,

If the standard is too low, students should be scoring too high, instead, the opposite appears to be the case. Across the nation, schools adopting CC, especially CC-math are seeing test scores plummet.

14 posted on 03/04/2014 5:00:01 AM PST by fso301
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To: GailA

later


15 posted on 03/04/2014 5:07:40 AM PST by deweyfrank
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To: reasonisfaith
Schools are already Teaching to State Standards, and agendas, instead of things like critical thinking skills, commonsense. Children are taught to the LOWEST standard. Standards started dropping in the late 60's and have continued to drop. They dropped even more with the explosion of Illegal INVADERS in to the US School Systems. I noticed it when my youngest was in 3rd grade, the teacher only taught multiplication to the 6's. They wanted to teach sexual education, I did not want my child learning, marriage is not between same sex. Guns are evil. They labeled him Learning Disabled in both math and reading D/F. Took 3 months with flash cards and Dick and Jane style books, and he was preforming beyond the set standards for that grade-A/B levels. I just simply used the 1950 standards I learned with.
16 posted on 03/04/2014 5:10:29 AM PST by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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To: fso301

You’re doing fine, comrade fso301. Keep up the good work and someday you could receive the Order of Obama!


17 posted on 03/04/2014 5:11:29 AM PST by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: fso301

We sent men to the moon long before we had common core. We designed and built jets, cars, ships, and Pepsi. How did Thomas Edison get along without common Core? That isn’t an invitation for a reply.


18 posted on 03/04/2014 5:13:01 AM PST by billhilly
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To: fso301

It seeks the lowest common denominator.


19 posted on 03/04/2014 5:15:29 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: reasonisfaith
The left has demonstrated the nature of their work.

Neither side is always on the right side of history.

As it concerns mathematics, there is nothing wrong with requiring that algebra students nationwide be able to arrive at the same solution for y = 2x + 3.

In science, shouldn't the periodic table be the same nationwide?

For English, a noun should be a noun nationwide as long as the curricula does not restrict the dynamic nature of the English language.

I'm most leery about history/social studies but there are strong arguments that can be made in favor of all students receiving the same baseline education in history and social studies. Regional and ethnic specific studies can still be offered as local elective courses.

20 posted on 03/04/2014 5:18:55 AM PST by fso301
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To: reasonisfaith; bk1000
Schools are already Teaching to State Standards, and agendas, instead of things like critical thinking skills, commonsense. Children are taught to the LOWEST standard. Standards started dropping in the late 60's and have continued to drop. They dropped even more with the explosion of Illegal INVADERS in to the US School Systems. I noticed it when my youngest was in 3rd grade, the teacher only taught multiplication to the 6's. They wanted to teach sexual education, I did not want my child learning, marriage is not between same sex. Guns are evil. They labeled him Learning Disabled in both math and reading D/F. Took 3 months with flash cards and Dick and Jane style books, and he was preforming beyond the set standards for that grade-A/B levels. I just simply used the 1950 standards I learned with. My husband taught JR College, 96% of the A/B math graduated students from the Memphis City Schools had to be taught REMEDIAL math before they could take his Electronics and Computer Science courses. Not so the Shelby County and Foreign students from the countries where parents demanded high standards.
21 posted on 03/04/2014 5:19:39 AM PST by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
It seeks the lowest common denominator.

How then does one explain the low scores coming in nationwide on CC tests?

22 posted on 03/04/2014 5:19:55 AM PST by fso301
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To: Max in Utah
You’re doing fine, comrade fso301. Keep up the good work and someday you could receive the Order of Obama!

Offer specific criticisms rather than name calling.

23 posted on 03/04/2014 5:23:08 AM PST by fso301
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To: billhilly
We sent men to the moon long before we had common core.

We relied on Nazi scientists who were the products of an education system different from that which you romanticize.

We designed and built jets, cars, ships, and Pepsi.

Does that mean we couldn't have done better?

How did Thomas Edison get along without common Core?

Edison was a dropout of the system you romanticize.

That isn’t an invitation for a reply.

You don't want a reply because you cannot make specific arguments.

24 posted on 03/04/2014 5:29:32 AM PST by fso301
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To: fso301

Because not all kids or schools are the same.

Common core is one size fits all stupidity.


25 posted on 03/04/2014 5:29:52 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
Because not all kids or schools are the same. Common core is one size fits all stupidity.

Should y = 2x + 3 have different solutions based on the school, or students asked to solve it?

26 posted on 03/04/2014 5:32:45 AM PST by fso301
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To: fso301

Since I am a great grandmother, the way algebra is taught has changed at least 5 times. Why should it take a full page to reach the conclusion of your y=2x +3 example?

A 25 year old person working behind a customer service desk which sends Western Union money wires, should be able to READ Cursive and Write it. There are important family documents that are written in cursive, many in old English, that a 5th in my day could read, NOT so today. My 12 year old granddaughter cannot read cursive nor write it. My grandson is also in the 6th grade and cannot read or write cursive. Both go to what is the ‘new norm’ high standards schools.

As to History the victor of any war writes it.

But CORE subjects do not change, nor should the methods they are taught. It is very confusing to children when the parent has been taught Algebra one way and they are being taught a new way. You get CHAOS which is the aim of government.


27 posted on 03/04/2014 5:34:40 AM PST by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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To: GailA
Type O should read taught that same sex marriage is OK. IT IS NOT.
28 posted on 03/04/2014 5:39:03 AM PST by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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To: GailA
Since I am a great grandmother, the way algebra is taught has changed at least 5 times. Why should it take a full page to reach the conclusion of your y=2x +3 example?

It shouldn't but any of the 5 different approaches to the problem should still result in the same answer on the test.

A 25 year old person working behind a customer service desk which sends Western Union money wires, should be able to READ Cursive and Write it. There are important family documents that are written in cursive, many in old English, that a 5th in my day could read, NOT so today. My 12 year old granddaughter cannot read cursive nor write it. My grandson is also in the 6th grade and cannot read or write cursive.

I don't believe dropping cursive is anything that came new with CC. Knowing cursive is beneficial but not necessary for success in life. Cursive is a faster way of writing than print and used to be important for note taking. Now, my kids lessons/lectures are typically available electronically and they take few notes. For professionals, electronic devices capture what formerly required proficiency in cursive and even shorthand.

I'm more surprised at some of my son's classmates that cannot tell time from an analog clock/watch. All they have in their home are digital clocks. Concepts such as clockwise and counterclockwise are therefore not intuitive to them.

But CORE subjects do not change, nor should the methods they are taught. It is very confusing to children when the parent has been taught Algebra one way and they are being taught a new way. You get CHAOS which is the aim of government.

If you can cite an example as to solving an inequality, or function being substantially different in 1950 from the way done today, I'd appreciate knowing about it.

29 posted on 03/04/2014 5:58:05 AM PST by fso301
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To: fso301

I agree with others here. You’re just another liberal moron.


30 posted on 03/04/2014 6:03:36 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
I agree with others here. You’re just another liberal moron.

All you can do is cower in your echo chamber calling names because you cannot offer a single fact to back up your opinion.

Is your opposition to a measurable standard due to your being tied into some monied private school interest fearful of having an apple-apple comparison ever made against them?

31 posted on 03/04/2014 6:09:20 AM PST by fso301
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To: GailA

I had a conversation with one of the common core fixated teachers the other day.

Basically it came down to teaching children a new way to think that doesn’t require thought at all. Teach them to think and communicate like computers or some kind of hive mind. And if you don’t agree you’re stupid.

I asked the teacher if that thinking took into account that when you put garbage into a computer, you get garbage out. His response “We don’t put garbage in”. Personally I consider almost all of it to be garbage.


32 posted on 03/04/2014 6:28:06 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: fso301
Why should y = 2x + 3 result in a different solution anywhere in the nation?

Because there are two variables in this equation there is no single solution.

33 posted on 03/04/2014 6:30:47 AM PST by CPOSharky (If a libtards lips are moving...)
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To: CPOSharky
Because there are two variables in this equation there is no single solution.

There could be other answers depending upon the particular question but if given y = 2x + 3 the question asks for the slope of the line, that there should be differing answers anywhere in the nation?

34 posted on 03/04/2014 10:12:38 AM PST by fso301
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To: fso301

y = 2x + 3 is the slope.


35 posted on 03/04/2014 10:39:59 AM PST by CPOSharky (If a libtards lips are moving...)
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To: CPOSharky
y = 2x + 3 is the slope.

I think the word "intercept" must have been accidentally been deleted in your post. y = 2x + 3 is the slope intercept form of linear equation. The slope = 2 and y intercept = 3.

36 posted on 03/04/2014 12:04:35 PM PST by fso301
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To: fso301

“What is wrong with having an educational standard for each grade level that is comparable from school to school, district to district and state to state?”

Nothing at all. In fact the top-ranked nations in the TIMSS(trends in international math and science studies) tests that have been given every 3 years since the 80’s have a common curriculum across all schools. We have been at the bottom of those test results, btw.

The problem is having this socialist, anti-American government in charge of it. Reversing the dumping down is NOT their objective. Just more brainwashing, just like the Soviets and Nazis did.


37 posted on 03/05/2014 4:51:54 PM PST by yorkiemom
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To: yorkiemom

Dumbing down. My tablet changes words on me...


38 posted on 03/05/2014 6:59:08 PM PST by yorkiemom
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