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Russian propaganda must be challenged
Human Rights in Ukraine ^ | 03/03/2014 | Halya Coynash

Posted on 03/04/2014 7:46:21 AM PST by WildSnail

Russia’s must be challenged to provide evidence for the unsubstantiated allegations presented as the grounds for its occupation of Ukrainian territory. Let them present it now to an international committee whose findings would be made public including on Crimean and Russian TV

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: propoganda; ukraine
Lots of propaganda and misinformation on all sided of the Ukrainian issues, but the pro-Russian propaganda seems, to me at least, to be the most widespread.
1 posted on 03/04/2014 7:46:21 AM PST by WildSnail
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To: WildSnail

Well did you hear Shep Smith will be reporting Live from Kiev today! Ukraine is saved!


2 posted on 03/04/2014 7:52:27 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 ((VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!))
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To: WildSnail

Or what?


3 posted on 03/04/2014 7:57:14 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: WildSnail

Putin said it best: The Ukrainian uprising was a coup. He is intervening to protect Russians. I find that to be legitimate.


4 posted on 03/04/2014 7:58:34 AM PST by CodeToad (Keeping whites from talking about blacks is verbal segregation!)
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To: WildSnail

As if our networks aren’t full of it.


5 posted on 03/04/2014 7:58:39 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: WildSnail

The US State Department admits that they spent $5 billion on bringing Ukraine within the Western sphere of influence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2fYcHLouXY


6 posted on 03/04/2014 7:59:05 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: chris37; All

” - - - White House is announcing an aid package to Ukraine of $1 billion - - - “

FINALLY! A highly successful backward solution to all known problems comes out of the Nobel Peace Prize winning White House!

“What is that?, “ You may ask? The answer, of course, is unlimited amounts of unfunded US Taxpayer Debt Dollars!

Yup! Works every time, and faster than you can can say “IcandoanythingIwantbyjustbyoassingCongress.” Nobel Laurette Soetoro-Obama just says: “Charge it to the next generation, please! Whoopee! My work here is done! Golf anyone?”

Secretary of Statements John “Cachup” Kerry will ride in, start writing rubber checks, and the ensuing bright rosy glow will spread around the World. Well, maybe not onto “the Arab Street.”

Although the always weak, Obamanation Foreign Policy is well on the way to its usual backward success, there are still a few topics that have yet to be resolved, as follows:

* Were is the Internet Video that caused the Ukrainians to force their beloved President to take the entire Ukrainian Treasury with him when he fled the country?

* Will “Catchup” Kerry enlist the help of famed video detective Susan Rice to help him track down and jail the perp. who made this awful, obscure, unknown video, that the United States had nothing to do with?

* Will the US Department of Statements spend more unfunded US Taxpayer Debt Dollars for the Ukranian Denial Ad than they did for the 2012 Benghazi Denial Ad?

* Note: Kerry must excel here because due to the obvious cruel onslaught of the aging process on Mrs. Bill Clinton, “Catchup” Kerry may be duty-bound to replace her as the obvious Democrat frontrunner in the 2016 Presidential race.

* Since POS Soetoro-Obama hit the famous RESET BUTTON on Russia, the NASA Space Program has had to be “dependent on the kindness of strangers” from Russia. Hopefully, our astronauts will be able to borrow food and vodka from the Russians while they wait for “Catchup” Kerry to resolve this Ukrainian “investment.”

* Will buddy Vlad Putin be as flexible with the Renowned Obamanation Foreign Policy as Soetoro-Obama was with Putin?

* Rumor has it that Vlad Putin has his eye on being awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for his defusing of the Syrian “Red Line” Crisis.

* Another rumor is that Putin could win the Nobel Peace Prize if he sold all of Russia’s US Treasury Notes, requested that the USA be dropped from the G9, and appointed Snowden to be the Russian Ambassador to the United States of America.


7 posted on 03/04/2014 8:00:14 AM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: WildSnail
At home, this intervention looks to be one of the most unpopular decisions Putin has ever made. The Kremlin’s own pollster released a survey on Monday that showed 73% of Russians reject it. In phrasing its question posed in early February to 1,600 respondents across the country, the state-funded sociologists at WCIOM were clearly trying to get as much support for the intervention as possible: “Should Russia react to the overthrow of the legally elected authorities in Ukraine?” they asked. Only 15% said yes — hardly a national consensus.

That seems astounding in light of all the brainwashing Russians have faced on the issue of Ukraine. For weeks, the Kremlin’s effective monopoly on television news has been sounding the alarm over Ukraine. Its revolution, they claimed, is the result of an American alliance with Nazis intended to weaken Russia.

8 posted on 03/04/2014 8:08:46 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Graewoulf

LOLOL!

I feel like I’m at the end of an old Saturday afternoon cliffhanger movie :D


9 posted on 03/04/2014 8:11:12 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: CodeToad

But replacing the Prime Minister of Crimea wasn’t a coup? If the government in Kiev is illegitimate, so is the government in Sevastopol.

The “Russians” Putin wants to protect are Ukrainian citizens, unless and until they themselves decide otherwise.


10 posted on 03/04/2014 8:14:49 AM PST by WildSnail (The US government now has more control over the people than the old Soviet Union ever dreamed of)
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To: WildSnail

They never got a choice in the first place. That Soviet Union thing kind of took away their right to choose.

However, Putin claims there have been requests from the region to protect them as Russians.


11 posted on 03/04/2014 8:26:40 AM PST by CodeToad (Keeping whites from talking about blacks is verbal segregation!)
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To: CodeToad

Correction to my earlier post — Simferopol is the capital of Crimea, not Sevastopol.

Regarding choice, in the early ‘90s, they did choose to become part of Ukraine. They could have easily joined Russia, or gone independent, which they almost did. And a popular vote is/was scheduled for May.

The request for assistance came from the newly-minted Prime Minister, only days after his (probably illegal) appointment.

I’m not saying that Russia has no national interest in Ukraine or Crimea. Obviously, it does. But they had no justification for their recent actions.


12 posted on 03/04/2014 8:59:13 AM PST by WildSnail (The US government now has more control over the people than the old Soviet Union ever dreamed of)
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To: WildSnail
My day for corrections, I guess. The referendum is scheduled for March 30, not may.
13 posted on 03/04/2014 9:08:48 AM PST by WildSnail (The US government now has more control over the people than the old Soviet Union ever dreamed of)
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To: WildSnail
"the pro-Russian propaganda seems, to me at least, to be the most widespread

I don't know about that... I watched U.S. TV "news" for the first time in many months yesterday. The propaganda is overwhelming!

The political establishment and its propaganda machine are in overdrive trying to convince everyone that Putin's actions are NOT the result of U.S. weakness! that the obvious is not true!

14 posted on 03/04/2014 9:10:49 AM PST by Savage Beast (Hubris and denial overwhelm Western Civilization. Nemesis and tragedy always follow.)
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To: CodeToad
Putin said it best: The Ukrainian uprising was a coup. He is intervening to protect Russians. I find that to be legitimate.

Numerous unarmed protestors where shot and killed. Yanukovich was impeached by just under 75% of their parliament. Yunukovich fled the country. Russian troops should not be in Ukraine.

15 posted on 03/04/2014 9:17:38 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: chris37

Or we might get back to talking about things that matter to Americans.

The only winner in the Ukraine is Obama.

All I’ve got to say to conservatives is that nobody said you have to agree with someone to be their useful idiot.


16 posted on 03/04/2014 9:19:54 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

I might have agreed with that.

But I can’t, creek.

Seems the only things that matter to Americans are Glowbull Warming, gay cakes, gay weddings, gay everything else, the n word in the NFL, and a whole bunch of other meaningless pap.

The fact that our country has become an absolute joke is what should matter.

Weakness invites aggression.

The Shining City on the Hill has become a little gay rainbow.

If we do not wake up from our lunacy, we are done, and that is the only thing that matters at all.


17 posted on 03/04/2014 9:56:22 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: chris37

Its sad. Another big story on one more illegal federal gun sting broke on Friday and I didn’t know about it till judge Napolitano spoke of it this morning on FOX.

I get most of my news from FR but that one doesn’t seem important.


18 posted on 03/04/2014 10:00:36 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

I have not seen that one either.

2nd Amendment matters to me big time.

That’s a hill worth defeating one’s enemy on.


19 posted on 03/04/2014 10:03:29 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: chris37

Apparently the feds were selling guns within 1000 feet of schools so they could in part, arrest people for possessing guns within 1000 feet of schools.


20 posted on 03/04/2014 10:06:53 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
See UNITED STATES v. LOPEZ:

The Act exceeds Congress' Commerce Clause authority. First, although this Court has upheld a wide variety of congressional Acts regulating intrastate economic activity that substantially affected interstate commerce, the possession of a gun in a local school zone is in no sense an economic activity that might, through repetition elsewhere, have such a substantial effect on interstate commerce.

21 posted on 03/04/2014 10:27:51 AM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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To: cripplecreek

Sounds like something our slithering snake government would do.

I don’t see anything wrong at all with possessing a gun within 1,000 feet of a school or 1,000 feet of anything else.

What matters is what a person chooses to do with the gun they possess.

Possession of the gun itself is a God given right.


22 posted on 03/04/2014 10:28:57 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: chris37
I don’t see anything wrong at all with possessing a gun within 1,000 feet of a school or 1,000 feet of anything else.

I don't either but I have no use for a government that does it to create a crime for others.
23 posted on 03/04/2014 10:30:38 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Me neither, creek. Seems like a classic example of entrapment.

They should have arrested themselves.

I have no use for this government under any circumstance or condition. The thing is Evil.


24 posted on 03/04/2014 10:37:35 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
For weeks, the Kremlin’s effective monopoly on television news has been sounding the alarm over Ukraine. Its revolution, they claimed, is the result of an American alliance with Nazis intended to weaken Russia.

What a coincidence, new world order's effective monopoly on US television news has been sounding the alarm over Ukraine too.

Its revolution, they claimed, is the result of freedom-loving Ukrainians who developed a desire to join Ukraine with the West.

Let's see what the US State Department has to say about the US government's position:

Victoria Nuland, Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y0y-JUsPTU

Wow, she says since 1991 the US government spent $5 billion to help Ukrainins "build democratic skills and institutions, promote civic participation and good governance, all of which are preconditions for Ukraine to achieve its European aspirations".
25 posted on 03/04/2014 10:44:44 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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