Skip to comments.Florida cops accused of using cellphone tracker without court permission
Posted on 03/04/2014 9:12:25 AM PST by Ray76
Florida police officers are accused of using a cellphone tracking and monitoring device without court permission, saying the device was on loan and they signed a confidentiality agreement with the manufacturer.
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Oh no, someone might be admonished with a stern talking-to.
Fine, then kick their ass for signing agreements that will LEAD to deprivation of civil rights by those in authority. If there was no way to test the device without violating the Constitution, they obviously had no business signing.
(Obviously there was, they could have just used it on each other for test purposes, but the point is valid. “Dog ate my homework” isn’t a valid excuse.)
Cops: The other criminals.
Manufacturer also should be kicked in the ass for conspiracy to violate civil rights. This, to me, is a hanging offense.
Presto! Innocence proven.
Throw away phones are cheap and disposable.
That offense is serious enough to ban the company and all individuals involved in this test from ever working in this field.
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Police violating the law and willfully hiding the tracker. Does anyone yet believe that the police are resembling the gestapo in its early stages. We have to fire those responsible and start to reorganize all the police in America back to serve and protect.
Nope. Unless a customary human route to Taos is through the sorting facility in Memphis.
Better to have a friend hand carry it.
Or even better, have it follow your normal routine while you don’t.
The Gestapo knocked.
“Manufacturer also should be kicked in the ass for conspiracy to violate civil rights. “
Yep. Them and the manufacturers of air horns also!
Only the ACLU would burst into court to protect a guilty rapist. Unbelievable!
“I am fine with this as long as the technology is made available to the public so we can use it to monitor the police and elected government officials and non-elected bureaucrats.”
I’m not fine with it. Government is supposed to be transparent. My life is supposed to be protected from frivolous monitoring.
That's not going to happen, so let's monitor them back.
“Specifically, the Tallahassee Police Department’s use of the stingray came to light following a 2008 sexual assault in which the victim had her cellphone stolen. Police used the stingray to track the location of the suspect, eventually entering his home without a warrant.”
I don’t get it. Wrong or not, it wasn’t his cell. Anyone think she’d refuse to give permission to track HER cell to her attacker?
Still, the secrecy surrounding this device is an issue. Again, cops trying to ignore restrictions.
1. This is Tallahassee PD - NOT the Highway Patrol, NOT Corrections, NOT even county cops - this is Barney Fife, local municipal cops with DHS-grade technology.
2. The article states that "the Tallahassee Police Department alone had used the device more than 200 times without court permission since 2010."
That department ALONE - which means others have used it as well. Who ELSE deployed it without court permission?
3. According to the ACLU's website (yes, I went there, so you wouldn't need to), the Florida-based Harris Corporation is the manufacturer. A technology site HERE states the following:
Details about the devices are not disclosed on the Harris website, and marketing materials come with a warning that anyone distributing them outside law enforcement agencies or telecom firms could be committing a crime punishable by up to five years in jail. These little-known cousins of the Stingray cannot only track movementsthey can also perform denial-of-service attacks on phones and intercept conversations. Since 2004, Harris has earned more than $40 million from spy technology contracts with city, state, and federal authorities in the US, according to procurement records.
Technology providers are in bed with Odinga and the Left: Google, Apple, Yahoo, and this bunch as well.
TPD is a bunch of keystone cops. I was a bouncer at a nightclub in Tallahassee when I was a student at FSU, and I can tell you personally that those cops make a MAJORITY of their income from after-hours/contract work for the clubs. Their DUI taskforce is the money-maker for the department.
This sort of corruption doesn’t surprise me. I was pretty close with several deputies, and I can tell you they walk a very fine grey line on a regular basis.
This technology has been out there for years. I was using one back in 1989. We had loads of laughs on Saturdays listening in on cell phone conversations between husbands in the car and wives at home yelling at him for picking up the wrong thing...going to the wrong place, etc.
The device would report the cell tower in use, the serial number and cell number of the phone being connected to.
The cops probably feared for their safety. We should be glad they got to go home safe at the end of their shifts...that’s all that matters.
It’s also a good thing dogs don’t usually carry cell phones.
what brand ? got a link ?
thanks in advance
I like this quote from True Detective:
“Of course I’m dangerous. I’m the police. I can do terrible things to people... with impunity.”
We mainly used it to get the ESN of a mobile (in car) cell phone that had no easy way to get to the transceiver. Place a call and voila! ESN on display.
The fun began when we REALLY read the manual. That thing would do a TON more. For bored Techno-Geeks who had to work on Saturdays...it was a blast.
Then let it be FREEEE!!!! Just like health care!
those non-disclosure agreements seem to have ore weight than the constitution.... amazing
This large old model is almost SEVEN years old --they're smaller now with better UI's.
The long-run aim is to make them almost the size of cell-phones.
Back in the days of scanners, you wouldn’t believe what juicy gossip we’d pick up on cops and elected officials. One local political head was talking to another big shot elected official and we learned exactly what Debbie would do and for how much for the good ol’ boys’ upcoming “hunting” weekend.
This is one in a boatload of equipment and money “granted” to the locals by hussein. LEO’s will be a major segment of his civilian army ready to turn on innocent US taxpaying citizens. There is no such thing as Andy and Barney helping little old ladies to cross the street and this new breed of bootjacks are out to “protect and serve” themselves. Many refuse to believe the US military and our local LEOs won’t turn their weapons on us but they will stand by whomever signs their paychecks and gives them the bigger toys.
Many refuse to believe the US military and our local LEOs wont turn their weapons on us but they will stand by whomever signs their paychecks and gives them the bigger toys.
Check out # 19 instead.
What movie is the pic from?
I get it...
An Non-Disclosure Agreement with some manufacturer is now more important than 4th amendment Constitutional protections?
Somehow, I think that the Supremacy clause has just disappeared.