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Understanding The Stress Response: It Can Buy You Valuable Seconds
SHTF Plan ^ | 3/4/14 | Lizzie Bennet

Posted on 03/04/2014 3:49:19 PM PST by Kartographer

Highly trained individuals are much more able to overcome the flight part of the response and stand their ground and fight. Equally, in a hopeless situation they’re training allows them to make the decision to retreat faster than the average person would. This should never be construed as cowardice, it is simply a tactical withdrawal that leaves them alive to fight another day.

Sadly some of those we may call ‘The Golden Horde’ may also possess the ability to make decisions faster than the average person. Those used to living on their wits will cope better in flight or fight situations than the average man simply because they have been in similar situations more often than Mr Average. Their most common reaction though is to fight, even when if they’d listened to the 10% of their brain not being controlled they would have realized it is unwise to do so.

It’s this that marks the difference between the gangs and highly trained individuals…those who are well trained know when to retreat for tactical reasons, gangs do it out of fear, and it’s this fear that can buy you time and make a hell of a difference to the outcome of a confrontation.

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To: Kartographer
LOL!!! 100%...
21 posted on 03/04/2014 6:59:23 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Kartographer
Go live in New Orleans for a week, that’ll change.

I had never been shot at till my family lived there for a time.

Learned alot in that city, was well prepared for the Marine Corp.

22 posted on 03/04/2014 8:26:21 PM PST by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: SgtHooper; All

Unless you’ve got nowhere to ‘retreat” to, then make your peace with your Maker, and keep reloading.


23 posted on 03/04/2014 8:27:46 PM PST by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Kartographer
Very few of the yutes will have an actual rifle.

The key to survival in these situations is DISTANCE.

Don't be afraid to reach out 50 yards or more...even 150.

Problem is, you'll have to choose between living and a murder charge unless it's a GENUINE SHTF situation.

Want to see a lightly armed but frenzied up crowd scatter? Drop a couple of them from 100+yds where they can't be sure where it's coming from.

Still, if you survive the encounter they'll be back. You have to move immediately along pre-planned routes.

If you let them get close, you die. If not the first time, the second time for sure.

Just remember the old cowboys and indians movies. Those who holed up at the homestead were usually burned out and killed.

24 posted on 03/04/2014 8:45:42 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner
And, single armed men should go hunting.

Look for those zombies before they get close.

25 posted on 03/04/2014 8:53:38 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner; All
People read my advice and fully consider it.

In times of brazen looting and murder...our worst imagined scenarios where the EBT cards don't work and the lights are out...and the cops go home...running for the hills can be the cowardly and dangerous plan.

Be willing to fight and kill. And, be willing to do it first.

When those crowds form disperse them as soon as they turn the corner then pursue.

Mercilessly.

26 posted on 03/04/2014 9:05:27 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: SgtHooper

That applies also when the JBTs surprise you early in the morning.

Best to escape and retreat, organize, find out who sent them, and “engage” on your own timeline.


27 posted on 03/05/2014 5:26:41 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: ought-six

My response was for a single person against one or more superior force(s).

Family, certain others? A whole different ball game. I agree with you.


28 posted on 03/05/2014 8:29:02 AM PST by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: Shadowstrike

Agreed.


29 posted on 03/05/2014 8:30:26 AM PST by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

As indicated in a prior reply, my response was for a single person against a superior force(s).

Obviously, my response is not a blanket rule for all situations. When there are two of us against a superior force, that’s when things become more complex. The Alamo, they clearly decided, and had the time to decide, to sacrifice themselves for a greater good.

One good (G) against one bad (B) - fight or flight depending on the circumstances.

1G against two or more B - consider flight.

1G + vulnerable friend against 1B - consider flight, but might change.

And on and on.

There far too many scenarios to consider here and all the associated dynamics. I know exactly what I would do wherever I go and who is with me. I think it through as much as I can, ahead of time. Traveling with wifey? I am continually considering security in most if not all situations. It comes naturally with driving as well. If walking with wifey/family, where should I position myself to minimize harm to her, scanning around for possible “looks”, movement, etc. I enjoy doing this.


30 posted on 03/05/2014 8:42:05 AM PST by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: SgtHooper

yes.


31 posted on 03/05/2014 9:46:34 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
tell that to the guys at the Alamo...

Hear, hear!

As we remember Texas Independence Day, just this past Sunday. There's a time to run, a time to fight, and sometimes you become immortal. Crockett, Bowie, Travis and the rest of the Defenders of the Alamo will not be forgotten as long as the name Texas survives.

PS: I like your tag line.

32 posted on 03/05/2014 1:18:01 PM PST by tpmintx (Gun free zones are hunting preserves for unarmed people.)
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To: tpmintx

He explained he was more talking about a multiple-on-one attack scenario, not an alamo type situation. I didn’t catch that was what he meant, the first time.


33 posted on 03/05/2014 3:03:08 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Kartographer

Article makes a great point about the feral pack being too tacticle-stoopit to recognise a prudent moment to withdraw from their attack. You and yours can die even as they enemy wins what is for them a pyrrhic victory. So you can’t count on a logical reaction to resistance. Even the BGs are subject to normative-momentum response.

Illustrated at Rudby Ridge & Waco by the supposed federal betters who left no choice for fellow Americans but to hole up where they should have been safest. The government kept throwing more LEOs, more vicious weapons at them - way more certainly than merited on the initial charges against a single individual resident of either home.


34 posted on 03/05/2014 11:31:48 PM PST by Titan Magroyne (What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.)
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To: Titan Magroyne

Geez.

tactical-stoopit, I meant


35 posted on 03/05/2014 11:32:30 PM PST by Titan Magroyne (What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.)
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To: SgtHooper

“There is nothing honorable in dying against overwhelming, or likely losing, odds.”

Unless it’s a sacrifice, like the Alamo.


36 posted on 03/06/2014 10:10:39 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

3/6/1836 Was the final day at the Alamo.

I’ve always felt that being old and cantankerous, but otherwise infirm that my last battle would be a holding action to let my loved ones to ex-filtrate.


37 posted on 03/07/2014 9:16:57 AM PST by WhirlwindAttack (Shiny. Let's be bad guys. They are seriously beginning to damage my calm.)
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