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Dog Kills 13-Year-Old New Jersey Boy, Injures Two Others
Newsone ^ | Mar 4, 2014 | Ruth Manuel-Logan

Posted on 03/04/2014 7:09:54 PM PST by nickcarraway

Kenneth Clodo Santillan (pictured with his dad), 13, was attacked and mauled to death last Friday by a bullmastif while walking in Paterson, N.J., with a friend. The unidentified friend was also attacked, as was the dog’s owner, Paul Clarke (pictured with Trigger), according to The Record.

Police records state that Santillan and his friend were walking along a street at about 4:30 p.m. when the 115-pound dog, whose name was Trigger, lunged at them. As to what provoked the animal, the details, per investigators, remain sketchy.

The canine initially bit the unidentified child on his hand, yet he was able to get away. Santillan, however, was not so lucky; Trigger chased after him and at 11 p.m., hours later after the initial attack, his lifeless body was found behind Clarke’s home.

The child who had accompanied Santillan was spotted running down a block bleeding from his hand. Carmen Baez, who was outside of her home when the unnamed child approached her, was told by the boy that he had been attacked by a dog. Baez ran into her house to get bandages and paper towels for the youth in order to control the bleeding. According to Baez, the fidgety child wrapped his hand, then quickly left the premises. The woman offered to call 911 but the child asked her not to do so. He also did not reveal his name.

Maria Zacheus, who lives near where Santillan’s body was discovered, told The Record that at around 9 p.m., she heard what seemed to be a search party taking place behind her apartment building. Zacheus heard a man crying unceasingly and yelling repeatedly, “My son! My son! My son!” The woman used her smartphone to record several video clips of the search.

Clarke, who had owned the dog, was forced to stab his canine repeatedly in order to get away from it because the animal had then turned on him on the same day as the Santillan attack.

According to neighbors, the dog was friendly at first but then his temperament changed for the worse after kids on the block taunted him. Other residents told the paper that many feared the aggressive dog that often barked and growled as strangers walked by his fenced area. One neighbor said Trigger had actually escaped his fenced area twice in the past by jumping over it because he was a big dog.

Zacheus said Trigger had tried to attack her and her 6-year-old grandson in the past, stating, “Monday through Friday, I walk through here to go pick him up from school. I always see the dog. He starts barking. He’s very aggressive.” The grandmother admitted that she had to cross the street in order to avoid any close contact with the dog.

Trigger was “humanely euthanized” by police and his remains are being tested for rabies. Santillan’s friend and Clarke were treated at a nearby hospital and released.

Investigators are still delving into the Santillan case. An autopsy will be conducted on the teen in order to find out the exact cause of death.

Thus far, no charges have been filed against Clarke. Police are asking anyone with information about the Santillan case to contact 973-321-1120.


TOPICS: Local News; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: doggieping; newjersey

1 posted on 03/04/2014 7:09:54 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Prayers. We are former bullmastiff owners. They are normally docile, gentle giants.


2 posted on 03/04/2014 7:11:53 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: goodwithagun

We had an English Mastiff, and had to put him down at four years old because he was aggressive towards strangers. It was so heartbreaking, but we couldn’t risk him harming anyone.


3 posted on 03/04/2014 7:19:55 PM PST by luckymom (The Son of God became a man that men might become sons of God. -C.S. Lewis)
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To: goodwithagun
According to neighbors, the dog was friendly at first but then his temperament changed for the worse after kids on the block taunted him.

Sounds like some hell kids at work. The article is so poorly written it's hard to make heads or tails of it.

4 posted on 03/04/2014 7:20:04 PM PST by PistolPaknMama
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To: PistolPaknMama

Yep.

Along with rabies, they should check for tick borne disease and hypothyroidism.

The latter two can make a gentle dog “go berserk” without warning.

I’m very curious as to why the surviving kid didn’t want the law called.

Had they just been tormenting the dog?


5 posted on 03/04/2014 7:34:02 PM PST by Salamander (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: PistolPaknMama

Our Sampson was a rescue through the Bullmastiff Association. He knew he had been given a second chance. He was such a lovie. We joked about him being a lap dog!


6 posted on 03/04/2014 7:34:02 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: luckymom

“We had an English Mastiff”
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I learned years ago that purebred dogs had reached the equivalent of the “Peter Principle”. They have been over bred for too many years. Today, nothing beats a mutt.(just my opinion)
Before some of you jump on me, yes, I know that most of you believe that you have the most magnificent purebred dog in the world :P... I do know that there are many exceptions.
Choosing a purebred should involve an extremely diligent search and knowledge of its breeding.


7 posted on 03/04/2014 7:52:05 PM PST by AlexW
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To: nickcarraway

Dreadful. RIP.


8 posted on 03/04/2014 8:07:35 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Salamander
Had they just been tormenting the dog?

That's possible, but it's also possible those kids had a general distrust of the police.

9 posted on 03/04/2014 8:10:29 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: goodwithagun

My daughter has one. She has two small children and he is very good with them. He is a very gentile dog; the only time he gets excited is when he is getting a treat.


10 posted on 03/04/2014 8:58:12 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: nickcarraway

I distrust them too but if ~my~ friend was in the process of being mauled to death by a huge dog who had just bitten *me*, I *think* I’d make an exception.


11 posted on 03/04/2014 9:12:37 PM PST by Salamander (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: nickcarraway

me thinks the kid that got away knows something he wants to keep to himself.


12 posted on 03/04/2014 9:35:52 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: goodwithagun

They’re always gentle and kind, until they’re not.


13 posted on 03/04/2014 9:54:17 PM PST by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: AlexW

Your post implies quite a lack of understanding of genetics. I have had three Irish wolfhounds, all of which were excellent examples of the breed. The Saga of Nial has a good description of the breed and why they were so valued. My present English Mastiff is a male and he is a frustrated lap dog - 225 pounds is too much for any lap except that of the Jolly Green Giant!

Pure bred dogs will have far more predictable behavior than mongrels. However, when canid behavior indicates aggression toward humans, reasoned and prudent owners ascertain the reason for the new behavior and act accordingly.


14 posted on 03/04/2014 9:55:04 PM PST by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: AlexW

I agree with you. Our mastiff was about as picture perfect as they come, but had serious aggression issues. After him, we got a “purebred” English Bulldog from a “reputable” breeder. She has had about every possible health problem that bulldogs are prone to- due to over-breeding to meet a “standard”. Before these two, we had two mutts....they were healthy and sane. This bulldog will be our last dog, she’s worn us and our bank account out...


15 posted on 03/04/2014 9:55:12 PM PST by luckymom (The Son of God became a man that men might become sons of God. -C.S. Lewis)
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To: Salamander

Which is why I’d rather be your friend, than that kid’s.


16 posted on 03/04/2014 10:10:15 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: GladesGuru

“Pure bred dogs will have far more predictable behavior than mongrels.”
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I knew that I would be castigated by pure-breed owners, but has nothing to do with my knowledge of genetics.
Yes, pure bred do have particular characteristics. Not all of those characteristics, however, are good.
My comments are not based on any claims to be professional in the dog breeding or training business, but a result of my 69 years of experience with numerous dogs of all types, from Manchesters to Graet Danes. None of the purebred dogs in my life turned out to be as nice or as healthy as the various cur/mongrel dogs that I knew, or adopted.
Yes, I know that each breed has particular characteristics, both good and bad.
My best friend, now deceased, had at least three, maybe four wolfhounds over fifteen years.. They were nice, but certainly too big for my taste, and not noted for longevity.
My largest dog was three-quarter Great Dane, and one quarter St. Bernard. She was quite large, but as sweet as any dog could be. She did, however, have 200 acres to range over.

I now care for 2 wild Philippine dogs, both female. They run free on the beach, and are liked by the neighbors. They are quite friendly and nice to have around. Anyway, my six cats keep them in line.
There are also a number of wild/unowned dogs in the neighborhood, but they never seem to be a problem for anyone. The two dogs that I care for are quite noted by each having a collar.


17 posted on 03/04/2014 11:14:13 PM PST by AlexW
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Dogs are great. Some will kill without human instigation. They’re animals.


18 posted on 03/04/2014 11:25:42 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: AlexW; Salamander

I don’t think any of that has any science behind it....just anecdotal

But I do that too

Any dog can be aggressive....it just takes on a certain urgency when they are bigger ....registered or mongrel

I can anecdotally claim I’m glad chihuahuas are tiny or else it would be mass murder

Likewise I think chows bite a lot.....

And yes pits have a great jaw

But if there as many rotts or mastiffs or Anatolians owned by thuggish folks who abuse their pets they would be known as killers too

I’ve owned ....14-15 dogs in my life...all would bite if provoked

Some even if not

And plenty would kill cats....

You have to watch them with kids...a big guard male will always view kids as under his pack rank

They cannot take his food or toy or tease him like alpha male or female can...I don’t think tease big digs period....why beg trouble...I’ve seen folks bit teasing a dobie even after I warned them.

You have to train the kids just like the dog....


19 posted on 03/04/2014 11:31:12 PM PST by wardaddy (ukraine......aint nobody gonna do nothing but talk and try to score political points)
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To: PistolPaknMama

poorly written is understatement/lol

Kenneth Clodo Santillan (pictured with his dad), 13....

My but they start young in NJ


20 posted on 03/04/2014 11:49:43 PM PST by Nailbiter
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To: wardaddy

>> I’m glad chihuahuas are tiny or else it would be mass murder

Ain’t that the truth.


21 posted on 03/04/2014 11:49:54 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: GladesGuru

“Pure bred dogs will have far more predictable behavior than mongrels. However, when canid behavior indicates aggression toward humans, reasoned and prudent owners ascertain the reason for the new behavior and act accordingly.”

^This^

I’ve had a couple dogs “suddenly” get nasty.

One had neurological Lyme and the other, severe hypothyroidism.

Had I been a knee-jerk, stupid owner, I might have considered having them killed for the ‘sake of safety’.

The Lyme dog lived another 9, problem free years after treatment and the properly medicated thyroid dog is lying here right now, good as gold again.

Dogs never “suddenly” do things for no reason.

Ask why and you will always find a cause.

[perhaps like neighborhood punks tormenting it through a fence, day after day after day]

If my dad had caught me tormenting somebody’s dog, he’d have kicked my ass.

And I would have deserved it.

He also would not have had any pity if the dog had bitten me for my troubles.

I was taught early that my actions have consequences and I solely owned them.


22 posted on 03/05/2014 2:21:51 AM PST by Salamander (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: nickcarraway

:)


23 posted on 03/05/2014 2:22:18 AM PST by Salamander (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: wardaddy

Breed standards are a dependable guideline of what you can expect from that puppy you’re bringing home.

Decades and centuries were devoted to “fixing” the characteristics and traits within the breeds.

Mutts, while a nice, feel good idea, are not as dependable when trying to assay what they will “be like” as adults.

There are infinite combinations of breeds and many of those combinations are either bad or deceptive.

Back in the 70s, Dobe/GSD crosses were common here.

You’d think that would be a wonderful dog but more often than not, it wasn’t.

A Dobe is made to go after people and protect with extreme prejudice.

A GSD is made to herd and needs to be taught to really “guard” and “attack”.

People had a lot of trouble with that mix snapping at kids, neighbors, strangers and delivery people because the gentler “herding mind” of the GSD was being altered by the harder “taking them down” mind of the Dobe.

The two breeds’ “styles” conflict badly.

A mutt can vacillate between any of the breeds in it. without warning and you will never know for sure really what breeds *are* in it, even with those ridiculously bogus “Mutt DNA” tests.

You can only -know- if you know they dog’s parents, personally.

Case in point, “Doberdoodles”.

Worst. Idea. Ever.

There are Ibizan mixes showing up in rescue now and people assume that Collie or whatever is going to modify the Ibizan’s tendency to take off at high speed, not heed your call and get hit or lost.

It is what it is, no matter what else gets “mixed in”.

Dog breeds are not paint.

You can’t mix black and white and call it gray.

There will always be the black and the white, living side by side in the dog’s mind.

It gets insanely complicated when more than two breeds are combined.

All bets are off.

I’m sure I’m going to be called a “breed snob” or some such crap but that is NOT my point.

If you want as much control over your dog and every situation you might find it in, your best bet is always a reputable breeder.

For the sake of dogs in shelters everywhere, I wish that weren’t so but to convince anyone otherwise is to live in the same happy-pink-sky world that liberals do.

And I refuse to do that.

Reality is not soft and fuzzy.

[not directing this at you, Wardaddy, it’s for general consumption]

:)


24 posted on 03/05/2014 2:41:30 AM PST by Salamander (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Salamander

Some cocktails don’t work, especially genetically.


25 posted on 03/05/2014 9:05:30 AM PST by Robert Teesdale
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To: Robert Teesdale

That is true.

So now we have little ghetto Dr Mengeles trying to build “better fighters” by slapping together various and sundry bully breeds with Mastiff breeds.

Brilliant.

What could wrong?


26 posted on 03/05/2014 11:09:44 AM PST by Salamander (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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