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They're already called 'vertically challenged' - but are short people intellectually challenged too?
UK Daily Mail ^ | March 3, 2014 | Eleanor Harding

Posted on 03/05/2014 6:13:39 AM PST by C19fan

They are already cursed with the rather unflattering label of ‘vertically challenged’. Now experts say short people may also be intellectually challenged too - or at least in comparison to their taller counterparts. A new study has found a link between IQ and height, suggesting that those who are shorter are on average more likely to be less intelligent. Academics identified genes that influence both height and IQ, and said there was a ‘significant genetic correlation’ between the two factors.

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KEYWORDS: height; helixmakemineadouble; intelligence; science
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Cur Randy Newman song.
1 posted on 03/05/2014 6:13:39 AM PST by C19fan
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To: C19fan

They got lil’ baby legs
they stand so low
You got to pick em up
just to say hello

Still one of my favorite songs - and I’m short


2 posted on 03/05/2014 6:17:16 AM PST by ComputerGuy (HM2/USN M/3/3 Marines RVN '66-'67)
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To: C19fan

"...a little bit"

3 posted on 03/05/2014 6:17:32 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: C19fan
Any suggestion that some group may have lower IQ is forbidden.
However, I would not be surprised to learn that height and overall HEALTH has a positive correlation, and health in turn has a positive correlation with most other good features.

4 posted on 03/05/2014 6:20:37 AM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: C19fan

Guess they never heard of Asians.....


5 posted on 03/05/2014 6:21:02 AM PST by Mechanicos (When did we amend the Constitution for a 2nd Federal Prohibition?)
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To: C19fan

From an anthropological sense it makes sense, greatest chance for the species to survive - strength and brains


6 posted on 03/05/2014 6:21:58 AM PST by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: Mechanicos

Interesting about that, is that when Asians come to the US where there is a greater variety of food, and more of it, it takes only one or two generations and the children are on average the same height.
Then when you go to Asia the tallest people are the leaders


7 posted on 03/05/2014 6:24:22 AM PST by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: svcw

Americans are bigger than ever - taller with enormous strength (think of the knock-out game that can kill with one blow). And yet we see a constant dumbing down of the average American. This sounds pretty bogus to me.


8 posted on 03/05/2014 6:24:35 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: C19fan

One of the most badass people I’ve ever met was Drill Instructor SGT Dicks. Parris Island, 1989.


9 posted on 03/05/2014 6:25:16 AM PST by real saxophonist (More Cowbell.)
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To: ComputerGuy

My siblings and I purchased the 45 of that song for our vertically challenged mother, back in the day!

(Well - I was still a preteen, so I guess I should say I freeloaded on my siblings purchase... LOL)


10 posted on 03/05/2014 6:26:59 AM PST by MortMan (Is a delayed shower a "stay of exablution"?)
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To: C19fan

I have found the opposite to be true.

Tall people get social advantages of being tall, so they get lazy mentally. They can get by being tall so their mind gets lazy.

Furthemore, I find the view from above to be a view that is easier to analyze situations. And the view from below to be more challenging. So I think tall people’s minds are again less challenged.

Furthermore, I think tall people can move their legs slower to go the same distance. Slow moving legs would tend to produce slow moving brain reaction time.


11 posted on 03/05/2014 6:27:12 AM PST by staytrue
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To: miss marmelstein

Or you are seeing a trend back to our roots
Different people groups needed different skills to survive, and one people group has re-isolated by choice are they just returning to that need


12 posted on 03/05/2014 6:27:31 AM PST by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: C19fan

My wife is 5’2” and spends most of her life waiting for the rest of us to catch up with last week’s conversation. I’m 6’5” tall and can’t out think the plastic packaging on a new tool for the hardware store.

Weird.


13 posted on 03/05/2014 6:28:46 AM PST by Pan_Yan (Who told you that you were naked? Genesis 3:11)
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To: svcw

Oh, bs.


14 posted on 03/05/2014 6:28:59 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: svcw

Then you also have the half of the population of the opposite sex..


15 posted on 03/05/2014 6:29:39 AM PST by Mechanicos (When did we amend the Constitution for a 2nd Federal Prohibition?)
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To: C19fan

If there’s a question mark in the title, the answer to the question is always “No.”


16 posted on 03/05/2014 6:32:46 AM PST by babble-on
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To: C19fan

Probably due to the fresher air intake of the tall man.


17 posted on 03/05/2014 6:35:12 AM PST by WinMod70
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To: real saxophonist

There are a lot of short people out there. I’m 5’11, and a former Marine, so bring it on.


18 posted on 03/05/2014 6:35:28 AM PST by real saxophonist (More Cowbell.)
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To: Pan_Yan

I’m only 4’10”. Despite my lack of height, I am definitely more intelligent than my 6’6” ex-husband. My daughter is 4’10” and tested in the 99th percentile when they didn’t know what to do with her in school. My sons are both over 6’ and quite intelligent although nothing like my daughter. This study is a crock.


19 posted on 03/05/2014 6:35:38 AM PST by MomofMarine
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To: real saxophonist

There are a lot of short people in the Marine Corps.


20 posted on 03/05/2014 6:37:29 AM PST by real saxophonist (More Cowbell.)
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To: real saxophonist

There is also one very tall Gunny, my son, who is 6’6”.


21 posted on 03/05/2014 6:39:45 AM PST by MomofMarine
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To: C19fan

“Academics identified genes that influence both height and IQ, and said there was a ‘significant genetic correlation’ between the two factors.”

I’m doubtful about this “genetic correlation” they propose. Did they control for the fact that malnourishment affects both height and IQ negatively?


22 posted on 03/05/2014 6:41:17 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: miss marmelstein

actually the tallest people are from the Netherlands.

With all the illegal immigration Americans are shorter.


23 posted on 03/05/2014 6:41:44 AM PST by Chickensoup (leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: miss marmelstein

“Americans are bigger than ever...”

Horizontally too.


24 posted on 03/05/2014 6:42:04 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: C19fan

Given the average intelligence of NBA players I think this study is “flawed”.


25 posted on 03/05/2014 6:42:41 AM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: MomofMarine

Haha. Semper Fi to your son.


26 posted on 03/05/2014 6:45:23 AM PST by real saxophonist (More Cowbell.)
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To: C19fan

An IQ score does not represent overall intelligence.

Correlation is not causation.

Grade: C-


27 posted on 03/05/2014 6:49:39 AM PST by Arm_Bears (Shoot cops that shoot dogs.)
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To: Durus

- Check the DNA studies in Germany establishing the lack of any Neanderthal DNA is certain ethnic groups - then review “The Bell Curve” again


28 posted on 03/05/2014 6:50:25 AM PST by devolve (- Tell Vladimir after my election I have more FLEXIBILITY -- I need more SPACE - BHO Jr -)
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To: staytrue
I have found the opposite to be true.

Tall people get social advantages of being tall, so they get lazy mentally. They can get by being tall so their mind gets lazy.

Furthemore, I find the view from above to be a view that is easier to analyze situations. And the view from below to be more challenging. So I think tall people’s minds are again less challenged.

Furthermore, I think tall people can move their legs slower to go the same distance. Slow moving legs would tend to produce slow moving brain reaction time.


I have made similar observations.

I also note that, on the evening news, the county's most wanted criminals are rarely under 6'.
29 posted on 03/05/2014 6:51:10 AM PST by chrisser (Senseless legislation does nothing to solve senseless violence.)
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To: C19fan

How tall is the chick who wrote the story?


30 posted on 03/05/2014 6:53:42 AM PST by fruser1
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To: Mechanicos

Does Einstein know about this?


31 posted on 03/05/2014 6:59:42 AM PST by Old North State
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To: MomofMarine
I’m only 4’10”. Despite my lack of height, I am definitely more intelligent than my 6’6” ex-husband.

We have two neighbor ladies that are no taller than you, and smarter than most. Yep, they are both cute blonds too.

32 posted on 03/05/2014 7:12:10 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: C19fan; shibumi

That song was banned from Maryland radio stations by whiny liberals.

Short Stupid Salamander


33 posted on 03/05/2014 7:19:45 AM PST by Salamander (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: svcw; Mechanicos; mikrofon; martin_fierro; PJ-Comix
When I went to Indonesia two years ago, I was the tallest person in the country.

Likewise, when I was in Korea for four months in 1988, I did not see anyone as tall as me. But now, I would guess that a number of the next generation of Koreans are as tall.

34 posted on 03/05/2014 7:28:29 AM PST by Charles Henrickson (6'3")
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To: Charles Henrickson
When I went to Indonesia two years ago, I was the tallest person in the country.

In the Philippines I would be walking down a crowded sidewalk and spot a guy up ahead who was big by their standards. We would pass and he would look up at me and you could see his big attitude leave him.

35 posted on 03/05/2014 7:33:04 AM PST by eartrumpet
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To: eartrumpet

Wow you could read his thoughts just by looking at him? You should be a psychic!


36 posted on 03/05/2014 7:59:33 AM PST by slimjim12
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To: C19fan

So let me get this straight.

A genetic trait accounts for your height, be it tall or short. If you are short you may be dumber that your tall counterpart.

A genetic trait accounts for your race, be it Asian or African. If you are Asian you may be (on average) more intelligence...

I was taught that in the USA it was illegal to draw any conclusions about any attributes of any human based on any criteria????

Now I’m really confused?


37 posted on 03/05/2014 8:01:11 AM PST by CodeJockey (Christian, Freeper, Tea Party Member, Bitter Clinger, Creepy White Cracker)
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To: svcw

Height does not equal strength.

Short guy has a lower center of gravity which can be an advantage in a fight.


38 posted on 03/05/2014 8:15:06 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: C19fan

Basket ball players are intelligent ?.


39 posted on 03/05/2014 8:17:08 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: staytrue

well, I hate to break it to you, but I’m 6’2 and last time I wrote a bloody test, I scored a mark of 134.

However, I cannot attest to the validity of this research as I know plenty of folks who are a just a hair shorter than me, and they’re still smart too :P


40 posted on 03/05/2014 8:22:49 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Pan_Yan

Pan, my southern friend, as an electrician and one who deals with those mentioned packages all the time... it’s real simple.

You take your brand new package, you take your shotgun... now pay real close attention. Lots of trial and error went into this. You need to use #4 buck, anything bigger will damage the product, and less won’t release it from the deathgrip the packaging has on it. You throw the package in the air (in a same direction of course), then you come up with the shotgun and let er rip. Of course this works better if you actually hit the target.

*actual results may vary*


41 posted on 03/05/2014 8:25:24 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: miss marmelstein

“Oh, bs.”

says the short lady :P

*ducks*

Please don’t hurt me, I was under duress!


42 posted on 03/05/2014 8:26:30 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: MomofMarine

I’m reserving judgement until I hear from your husband:)


43 posted on 03/05/2014 8:27:14 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: KosmicKitty

OK. That maybe true , it’s not what I am talking about
If I am a female searching for a mate to give me the best off spring with the greatest chance if survival / I am going to pick the biggest and the smartest
I am talking completely anthropologically


44 posted on 03/05/2014 8:31:05 AM PST by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: Charles Henrickson; svcw; Mechanicos; mikrofon; PJ-Comix

Charles visited the 'Frisco Bay Area and was a Tower of Power here, too.

45 posted on 03/05/2014 9:12:22 AM PST by martin_fierro ( 1 Samuel 16:7)
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To: ComputerGuy

It is one of mine too and I am short too.


46 posted on 03/05/2014 9:16:26 AM PST by Jean2
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To: C19fan
Color me skeptical. If, by "intellectually challenged", one means "doesn't do smart things," then the evidence will be arbitrary and statistical at best. The real problem is that intelligence isn't really a group characteristic, and that "average" intelligence within a population is not all that reliable a predictor of individual behavior within it.

If, by "intellectually challenged", one means "does stupid things", then we have a little more reliable indication of individual behavior, for whatever it's worth. Both short and tall people vote Democrat, for example.

47 posted on 03/05/2014 9:26:54 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: C19fan

Maybe the NBA All-Stars should take over the country


48 posted on 03/05/2014 9:40:40 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: slimjim12
Wow you could read his thoughts just by looking at him? You should be a psychic!

Reading body language is far from being psychic. He was squared away, chest out, shoulders held high, looking like cock of the walk then he melted into a slumped mess when he saw me.

49 posted on 03/05/2014 11:52:29 AM PST by eartrumpet
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To: C19fan

I’m only 5’ 16” and I say it’s indubitably true! :-)


50 posted on 03/05/2014 11:03:21 PM PST by TrueKnightGalahad (When you´re racing, it’s life. Anything that happens before or after is just waiting.)
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