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Gobekli Tepe Report
UBtheNews ^ | Updated 10/26/11 | Prepared by Halbert Katzen, J.D.

Posted on 03/05/2014 1:40:49 PM PST by imardmd1

Gobekli Tepe Summary

In 1994, almost forty years after The Urantia Book’s 1955 publication, excavations began at the Gobekli Tepe archaeological site in Turkey. The Gobekli Tepe site already reveals 50 engraved stone monoliths, some of them dating back to 12,000 years ago, that are at least 6,000 years older than Stonehenge and the Egyptian pyramids. A full excavation to the bottom of the site has not yet occurred, and only a small percentage of the site has been uncovered. The evidence suggests that the complex of round rooms with two especially large pillars in the middle were built for religious rather than practical purposes. Gobekli Tepe is widely acknowledged as one of the most important and mysterious archaeological sites in the world. The two main mysteries surrounding Gobekli Tepe are:

1) How did people this primitive cut, carve, move, and build with enormous stones in excess of 15 tons? The artifacts are inconsistent with prevailing theories about the development of civilization because every place else in the world, where ancient civilizations have built structures with enormous stones, there is also evidence of settled communities that practiced herding and agriculture. Prevailing theories about this region suggest that around 11,000 years ago, primitive man was just beginning to evolve from being a hunter-gatherer to a herder-farmer.

2) Why did this civilization decline over a period of several thousand years and then intentionally bury the site around 10,000 years ago? One of the peculiar aspects of the construction and art at Gobekli Tepe is that both become less refined over time. The older structures are significantly larger and more ornately decorated. There are clear indications that the site was intentionally buried but nothing to indicate why.

The Urantia Book answered these questions forty years before we discovered this mysterious site existed. The history of humanity provided by the authors of The Urantia Book recounts that a genetically superior and well-developed herder-farmer civilization existed in this area over 30,000 years ago. They also explain why this particular civilization experienced a prolonged genetic degradation and, therefore, cultural decline. Additionally, The Urantia Book says that, due to population pressures, inferior and more barbaric tribes drove out this more peaceful and advanced civilization.

Adding powerfully to the intrigue of this report is its relationship to the Adam and Eve Report and the Garden of Eden Report. These two reports also happen to reveal some of the most impressive corroborations of Urantia Book history documented so far by UBtheNEWS. The story of Adam and Eve in The Urantia Book is significantly different from the one found in the Old Testament and centers around a major genetic change that occurred 38,000 years ago. Starting with the Adam and Eve Report provides some background on the genetic issues that are relevant to this report; however, it is not necessary to read that one first in order to understand this one.


TOPICS: History; Science; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: archaeology; fringe; gobeklitepe; godsgravesglyphs; microevolution; origins; theurantiabook; urantia; weirdstuff
For a change of pace. One wonders about the role of Anatolia in world history.

Gobekli Tepe photo

"Schmidt's German-Turkish team has also uncovered some 50 of the huge pillars, including two found in his most recent dig season that are not just the biggest yet, but, according to carbon dating, are the oldest monumental artworks in the world."

1 posted on 03/05/2014 1:40:50 PM PST by imardmd1
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To: imardmd1

Probably part of a support platform used to support large crafts landing there.. An elaborate game set for a bored ancestor?

Cool.


2 posted on 03/05/2014 1:46:28 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: imardmd1

For those that don’t know, the “Urantia book” is one of those writings that purports to be channeled or written by non-human entities. In other words, New Age drivel of unknown provenance.


3 posted on 03/05/2014 1:52:52 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: NormsRevenge

Or perhaps they are not 12,000 years old. Perhaps the dating science is incorrect.


4 posted on 03/05/2014 1:53:15 PM PST by ruesrose (The Anchor Holds)
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To: SunkenCiv

Urantia ordinary ping.


5 posted on 03/05/2014 1:58:21 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: imardmd1

Very interesting site - and intentionally buried, so I’ve read. “Ancient Aliens” did a report on it - not sure about the alien part but the place is amazing. The guy with the wild hair was pretty excited.


6 posted on 03/05/2014 1:59:28 PM PST by dainbramaged
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To: Boogieman

I’d take Genesis 6 and The Book of Enoch over any “Urantia” type books any time. They provide also a very good explanation about the “superior” genetics.


7 posted on 03/05/2014 2:04:03 PM PST by 05 Mustang GT Rocks
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To: 05 Mustang GT Rocks

The archaeologists assume that the same people who operated the site also buried it.

Not necessarily. It may be that (as frequently occurred among ancient peoples) the site was a place of idolatry, human sacrifice and so forth and another group, led perhaps by a man such as Enoch, came and chased the wicked people away and buried the site. Later on, the site sprang up again for similar use.


8 posted on 03/05/2014 2:25:45 PM PST by Meet the New Boss
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To: imardmd1

9 posted on 03/05/2014 2:25:51 PM PST by evets (beer)
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To: imardmd1

this is the most fascinating archeological mysteries in the world, IMO.


10 posted on 03/05/2014 2:35:03 PM PST by MNDude
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To: dainbramaged
In watching Ancient Aliens, I wonder how the people who put this program on deal with the immense distances, and the corresponding travel time, required for interstellar travel. How do they deal with this issue?
11 posted on 03/05/2014 3:32:04 PM PST by Rudder
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To: Rudder

There are numerous theories for interstellar travel involving use of other dimensions.

The various string theories require extra dimensions we cannot sense above the “normal” four, with the most popular right now positing 11.

It is not utterly unreasonable to assume an advanced civilization could exit normal space in their star system and re-enter it in ours, without passing through the intervening normal space, in much shorter time or possibly even instantaneously.

Do we have a clue how to do this or even if it’s possible? Nope. But we also cannot say it is impossible.


12 posted on 03/05/2014 3:41:56 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: imardmd1

I think Gobekli Tepe is the area where Noah gathered up his zoo. I figure the ark was built to float and hold together, not to sail or navigate in large bodies of water. That would require building the ark in and area that would make it likely the ark would rise, move a short distance, and resettle on land, not water. My thinking is that Noah’s Ark settled in the Ararat mountains on the Iranian border. ...Cedar trees, like the ones growing in Lebanon and Syria once grew in abundance near Gobekli Tepe, and I suspect they are what Noah called gopher wood, tall and straight with plentiful sap.

Whether or not Noah, or the building of the ark, had anything to do with Gobekli Tepe is another speculation altogether.

An interesting aside is a brief account of some of the flood’s survivors encountering remnants of nephilim writings and structures, and covering them up. I don’t think this was in the book of Enoch, but maybe Jasher or Jubilees. I’m too lazy to look it up.


13 posted on 03/05/2014 3:44:16 PM PST by pallis
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To: Rudder

I believe Einstein theorized about whether space and time can bend - which was evidently proven in 2007 by a satellite called Gravity Probe B launched by NASA. Maybe the UFO pilots have figured out how to do the bending and make traveling those distances possible.


14 posted on 03/05/2014 3:48:53 PM PST by dainbramaged
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To: imardmd1

Urantra nonsense aside, our hunter-gatherer ancestors were seemingly hard wired for religion. Any look at today’s hunter-gatherers would support such an assertion. Archaeologists and anthropologists consistently underestimate the intelligence of our ancestors.


15 posted on 03/05/2014 4:03:27 PM PST by JimSEA
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To: JimSEA
Archaeologists and anthropologists consistently underestimate the intelligence of our ancestors.

Considering that cro-magnon had an average brain capacity of 1600cc vs. 14 for "modern" man, yes. There is no possibility that the average Justin Bieber fan could survive on their wits in a world plunged into an ice age due to a superabundance of green technology.

16 posted on 03/05/2014 4:08:47 PM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: evets
Yeah. I warned my people when we first came to this planet, "Cut up some stone and stack it up," I sez, "you'll drive them nuts," but did they listen? Nooo. It was nothing but "Zortan, show them fire," and "Zortan, give them a wheel," and pretty soon the Zeta Reticulians move in and stack some rocks and there goes the neighborhood and who gets all the credit? Don't even start me on the Sphinx. "Put Qzzlt's head on a horse's ass," I sez, and look what the idiots came up with.

Stones. We shoulda just stacked up some dang stones.

17 posted on 03/05/2014 4:17:28 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: ruesrose
"Perhaps the dating science is incorrect."

Keep talking like that and they'll accuse you of claiming the earth is flat....

18 posted on 03/05/2014 5:44:03 PM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: colorado tanker; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...
Urantia gave way to Ufarma, which made possible Ubuildcitiesah. Thanks ct.

19 posted on 03/05/2014 5:49:42 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: JimSEA
Archaeologists and anthropologists consistently underestimate the intelligence of our ancestors.

And consistently overestimate our own.

20 posted on 03/05/2014 5:56:43 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: JimSEA
"Archaeologists and anthropologists consistently underestimate the intelligence of our ancestors."

We are in very tight agreement.

21 posted on 03/05/2014 6:31:28 PM PST by blam
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To: MNDude

Indeed. I am amazed how little attention this gets, considering it basically turns history on it’s head. Stuff this sophisticated 12K years ago, nearly twice as old as anything else out there? I truly can’t believe how they can blow off the magnitude of it.


22 posted on 03/05/2014 8:52:00 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead...)
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To: Sherman Logan

The laws of time and space are relative in the sense that they work differently in different parts of the universe. The Vedas explain this.


23 posted on 03/05/2014 9:11:18 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Billthedrill

LOL.

Very good.


24 posted on 03/05/2014 10:47:44 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: NormsRevenge

I still think there is a chance this is the worlds first ZOO!


25 posted on 03/05/2014 10:55:30 PM PST by djf (OK. Well, now, lemme try to make this clear: If you LIKE your lasagna, you can KEEP your lasagna!)
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To: djf

maybe!


26 posted on 03/06/2014 4:26:43 AM PST by Craftmore
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To: SunkenCiv

:)


27 posted on 03/06/2014 8:38:36 AM PST by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: djf

The size of some of the critters back then, could be..

What will they dig up next?

Jimmy Hoffa? Clinton’s Legacy? Obama’s real birth certificate?

I wish I had pursued archeology, and digging. :-)


28 posted on 03/06/2014 10:36:09 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Gal I knew in college was into that - she actually interned on a couple professional digs.

Hot...
dusty...
braless...

Series! We lived together for about a year, she didn’t even own one!


29 posted on 03/06/2014 11:14:29 AM PST by djf (OK. Well, now, lemme try to make this clear: If you LIKE your lasagna, you can KEEP your lasagna!)
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To: SunkenCiv

I know you have a number of links to info on Gobeki Tepe.

Why not post the most intelligent and levelheaded and let some new folks learn about this amazing archeological site?

As I recall the site is at the top of a mountain so just dragging the enormous stones up to the site is an amazing feat.


30 posted on 03/06/2014 12:12:03 PM PST by wildbill
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To: wildbill
The truth is, imho, the level of discussion about that site hasn't resulted in the edification of the participants. If I had to make a wild guess, there are as-yet unknown remains of contemporary settlements in the immediate vicinity, meaning that there was a permanent population near the place, and they built it for their own cults (whatever they were) and the settlements thrived from what we would now call the tourist trade; in the medieval sense that traffic would be considered pilgrimages. The source of the large stones may be nearby, but if not (and even if) there will be found some kind of causeway or unpaved roadway, probably leading to the nearest waterway. Such structures have been identified at Stonehenge and other places, and antedate the monuments, because they were evidently used in the construction.
KEYWORDS: anatolia; archaeology; catalhoyuk; catalhuyuk; gobeklitepe; godsgravesglyphs; prehistory; sanliurfa; turkey

31 posted on 03/06/2014 2:51:44 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Free Vulcan

This, and the recent discovery in Indonesia, which is just as old, are simply amazing.


32 posted on 03/06/2014 9:01:49 PM PST by spyone (ridiculum)
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To: spyone

You know the name or got a link? Haven’t heard of that one...


33 posted on 03/06/2014 9:42:36 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead...)
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To: Free Vulcan

http://www.grahamhancock.com/forum/HancockG9-Mystery-Lost-Civilization.php


34 posted on 03/06/2014 10:17:57 PM PST by spyone (ridiculum)
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To: Billthedrill

Yeah. I warned my people when we first came to this planet, “Cut up some stone and stack it up,” I sez, “you’ll drive them nuts,” but did they listen? Nooo. It was nothing but “Zortan, show them fire,” and “Zortan, give them a wheel,” and pretty soon the Zeta Reticulians move in and stack some rocks and there goes the neighborhood and who gets all the credit? Don’t even start me on the Sphinx. “Put Qzzlt’s head on a horse’s ass,” I sez, and look what the idiots came up with.

Stones. We shoulda just stacked up some dang stones.


Dude! When is your book coming out?


35 posted on 03/07/2014 11:13:27 AM PST by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: MNDude

“this is the most fascinating archeological mysteries in the world, IMO.”

I think it’s pretty interesting, and as such deserves very cool mysterious music...and a movie!

http://worldsfirsttemple.com/


36 posted on 06/27/2014 9:21:37 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: imardmd1

With the fighing in Syria only 80 kilometers away, and a very porous border with Turkey.... farmers are already moving out of the areas near the border towns. Hopefully no stray rockets will come near this site -_-


37 posted on 09/27/2014 1:12:27 PM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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