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When Putin Met Reagan
Iconic Photos ^ | 12-7-2009 | Alex Selwyn-Holmes

Posted on 03/05/2014 5:55:48 PM PST by smoothsailing

When Putin Met Reagan

Written by Alex Selwyn-Holmes

December 7, 2009

In May 1988, President Ronald Reagan travelled to Moscow for his 4th summit with Mikhail Gorbachev. The Soviets prepared a grand welcome; buildings across from the Kremlin were repainted, streets repaved and trees and flowers planted along the boulevards. The president’s schedule included attending the Bolshoi Ballet, speaking to students at Moscow’s State University and visiting Danilov Monastery, while First Lady would tour Leningrad.

The visit was not without its own share of diplomatic incidents. The First Couple took an unscheduled walk through the Arbat, a Moscow shopping pedestrian street, when security police rushed in and roughed up a throng of onlookers, including children. “It’s still a police state,” Reagan was heard to say. When the president’s advance team asked the Russian Orthodox Church to pave the way to the Danilov Monastery so that the president could arrive in the limousine, a clergyman retorted that “One does not ride to see God. One walks either upon his feet or upon his knees.” Because he wore no ID badge, White House spokesman Marlin Fitzwater was pursued by security personnel on his way to a Kremlin dinner. The president dozed off during the performance at the Bolshoi and Secretary Gorbachev had to wake him with a tap on the shoulder as the curtains were coming down.

The most telling incident was only revealed 20 years later. In the above photo, the man with the camera around his neck standing behind the boy was the current Russian Prime Minister (and former president) Vladimir Putin. He was pretending to be a tourist on his capacity as a KGB agent. On that day, on the Red Square, Gorbachev introduced Reagan to various tourists, who asked the American president pointed questions about subjects such as human rights in the United States. The photographer of this picture, Pete Souza, turned to the Secret Service and commented, “I can’t believe these tourists in the Soviet Union are asking these pointed questions.” The agent replied, “Oh, these are all KGB families.”

Pete Souza is the official chief White House photographer for Ronald Reagan and Barack Obama administrations. The Kremlin, however, had denied that it was Putin.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; History
KEYWORDS: coldwar; presidents; putin; reagan
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Hmmm, is this for real?
1 posted on 03/05/2014 5:55:48 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Pretty amazing, and utterly plausible.

Just as it is utterly implausible that Bill Clinton, as a Rhodes Scholar visiting Moscow during the Cold War, would not have been seduced in a honey trap and recruited.


2 posted on 03/05/2014 5:59:32 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: smoothsailing

From that view it doesn’t really look like him.


3 posted on 03/05/2014 5:59:54 PM PST by miliantnutcase
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To: smoothsailing

4 posted on 03/05/2014 6:01:07 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: miliantnutcase

Look again just above. I’m looking for a better profile shot.


5 posted on 03/05/2014 6:01:39 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

6 posted on 03/05/2014 6:03:19 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Looks like McCauley Caukin after a weekend bender.


7 posted on 03/05/2014 6:03:45 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Insurgent Conservative)
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To: smoothsailing

8 posted on 03/05/2014 6:04:10 PM PST by Slyfox (When Jesus sees a momma holding her little baby, it reminds him of his own momma.)
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To: smoothsailing

9 posted on 03/05/2014 6:04:59 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: smoothsailing
Hmmm, is this for real?

I don't know, but that shirt Putin is wearing sure isn't.

10 posted on 03/05/2014 6:06:16 PM PST by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: Slyfox


Loved his work in the U2 New Year's Day video on MTV.
11 posted on 03/05/2014 6:08:09 PM PST by WeatherGuy
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To: Travis McGee

12 posted on 03/05/2014 6:08:34 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: smoothsailing; a fool in paradise

That’s Putin with a different nose. But then, if Jacko could do it, then why not Putin.


13 posted on 03/05/2014 6:08:35 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: Travis McGee


14 posted on 03/05/2014 6:09:16 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Revolting cat!
You're right, that nose is glued on!

Old KGB trick!

15 posted on 03/05/2014 6:14:04 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing
The visit was not without its own share of diplomatic incidents. The First Couple took an unscheduled walk through the Arbat, a Moscow shopping pedestrian street, when security police rushed in and roughed up a throng of onlookers, including children. “It’s still a police state,” Reagan was heard to say. When the president’s advance team asked the Russian Orthodox Church to pave the way to the Danilov Monastery so that the president could arrive in the limousine, a clergyman retorted that “One does not ride to see God. One walks either upon his feet or upon his knees.” Because he wore no ID badge, White House spokesman Marlin Fitzwater was pursued by security personnel on his way to a Kremlin dinner. The president dozed off during the performance at the Bolshoi and Secretary Gorbachev had to wake him with a tap on the shoulder as the curtains were coming down.

Yet Reagan still exposed the Soviet Union for what it was and brought it to its knees. Funny how everyone misses that, but remembers every other detail.

16 posted on 03/05/2014 6:14:09 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: miliantnutcase

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/5017264/Did-Vladimir-Putin-meet-Ronald-Reagan-as-an-undercover-KGB-man.html


17 posted on 03/05/2014 6:20:06 PM PST by Perdogg (Ted Cruz-Rand Paul 2016)
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To: smoothsailing
i found a bit larger "version" of the photo and isolated putin...sharpened the image and am posting the results.



I 'd give it 90 percent!
18 posted on 03/05/2014 6:21:04 PM PST by MeshugeMikey (Jesus came to Save not Entertain / Ground John Kerry Now!)
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To: Moonman62

Excellent point.


19 posted on 03/05/2014 6:21:47 PM PST by JimBianchi11 (The 2A is the cornerstone of our free society. Those that don't support it, oppose it.)
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To: smoothsailing

I’m not so sure. It’s possible, but I think there are some differences.


20 posted on 03/05/2014 6:22:00 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: Moonman62

Another version puts it this way:

“An apparently younger looking Putin is dressed as a tourist in this photo below, taken in 1988 at Red Square. At the time the Reagan administrations relationship with Russia was warming as the US courted the leadership of what nobody would have thought at the time would soon become the former USSR.”

http://newsbizarre.com/2009/03/picture-vladimir-putin-meets-ronald.html

Nobody but Reagan, that is.


21 posted on 03/05/2014 6:24:59 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: MeshugeMikey
From the article...

In the above photo, the man with the camera around his neck standing behind the boy was the current Russian Prime Minister (and former president) Vladimir Putin.

22 posted on 03/05/2014 6:27:25 PM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: MeshugeMikey

LOL, Putin is the guy with the camera standing behind the kid. Putin was 36 at the time the picture was taken. B^)


23 posted on 03/05/2014 6:28:52 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: MeshugeMikey

That pic was taken in 1988 and the boy looks to be 11 or 12 years old. In 2008 he’d have been 20 years older, 31 or 32. Add another 6 years and that makes him 37 or 38, a lot younger than Putin.


24 posted on 03/05/2014 6:33:38 PM PST by libstripper (Asv)
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To: Rome2000

Also, he’s not wearing a belt on his trousers. Quite plausible these aren’t his regular clothes - KGB went shopping at The Gap and forgot to get belts.


25 posted on 03/05/2014 6:34:21 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: Travis McGee
Oh look!

He's got a pen!

(Wonder if O-mama knows...)

26 posted on 03/05/2014 6:35:49 PM PST by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: smoothsailing

27 posted on 03/05/2014 6:39:04 PM PST by Mannaggia l'America
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To: libstripper

I re read the article and apparently it is the man with the camera who is said to be putin.

form the looks him in that photo I cannot make a postivie ID.


28 posted on 03/05/2014 6:40:31 PM PST by MeshugeMikey (Jesus came to Save not Entertain / Ground John Kerry Now!)
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To: Mannaggia l'America

LMAO! Yeah, Putin is extremely “Russian” looking. I bet he could find a 100 body doubles just in New York.


29 posted on 03/05/2014 6:41:40 PM PST by miliantnutcase
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To: Slyfox

A stoic character.

There’s a critical vacuum of leadership in the United States.


30 posted on 03/05/2014 6:43:44 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: NoCmpromiz; Travis McGee
He's got a pen!

And a phone! Uh-Oh.


31 posted on 03/05/2014 6:44:38 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Jane Long

yes...and I cant really tell from that version of the photo.

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32 posted on 03/05/2014 6:45:56 PM PST by MeshugeMikey (Jesus came to Save not Entertain / Ground John Kerry Now!)
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To: smoothsailing; Travis McGee
He's got a pen! And a phone!

Well that settles it. He has all it takes to be, um, _resident...

33 posted on 03/05/2014 6:46:49 PM PST by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Different person IMO.


34 posted on 03/05/2014 6:46:56 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric
Different person IMO.

You gotta be kidding. That is definitely Ronald Reagan!

35 posted on 03/05/2014 6:50:16 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Gene Eric

the angle ...i.e. perpective of the fae in that photo makes it difficult to tell

the build is about right...the nose....not likely .

if that had been shot with one of todays high resolution cameras it would have made it a lot easier to “read”


36 posted on 03/05/2014 6:51:23 PM PST by MeshugeMikey (Jesus came to Save not Entertain / Ground John Kerry Now!)
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To: smoothsailing
That is definitely Ronald Reagan!

Oh yeah? And who is this?


37 posted on 03/05/2014 6:52:42 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: Revolting cat!

That’s my barber!


38 posted on 03/05/2014 6:54:53 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Travis McGee

Putin is (in terms used in Cleveland in my youth) a “Slavic slopehead”

Camera guy has a lot of hair, but his skull looks more vertical. Perspective may vary though...


39 posted on 03/05/2014 6:59:13 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: smoothsailing

Even accounting for the pin-cushion distortion effect of the camera, the general aspect of the jaw and chin with respect to the nose makes it very questionable, IMO.


40 posted on 03/05/2014 6:59:33 PM PST by omni-scientist
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To: smoothsailing; a fool in paradise
Here are the world's official nose types for your scientific examination and comparisons.


41 posted on 03/05/2014 7:00:41 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: Revolting cat!; smoothsailing

Rod Serling?


42 posted on 03/05/2014 7:10:33 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Shorter neck on the Putin we know. In the other photo, the head shape seems more elliptical despite the lens distortion.


43 posted on 03/05/2014 7:15:09 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Revolting cat!
I say Putin fits the middle one...


44 posted on 03/05/2014 7:16:07 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: MeshugeMikey

Nice work at #18!


45 posted on 03/05/2014 7:17:16 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: smoothsailing
Here's his camera, Zorki I. It's most certainly Putin.


46 posted on 03/05/2014 7:23:14 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: smoothsailing
Putti's Polo!


47 posted on 03/05/2014 7:26:40 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: Revolting cat!

LOL!!! Nailed!


48 posted on 03/05/2014 7:37:16 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Revolting cat!
On Malden Pond


49 posted on 03/05/2014 8:10:54 PM PST by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: Moonman62

“but remembers every other detail.”

Like Poland and Pope John Paul?


50 posted on 03/05/2014 9:37:28 PM PST by enduserindy (A painted trash can is still a trash can.)
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