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Meat and cheese may be as bad as smoking
USC ^ | March 4, 2014 | Suzanne Wu

Posted on 03/06/2014 10:17:38 AM PST by EveningStar

That chicken wing you're eating could be as deadly as a cigarette. In a new study that tracked a large sample of adults for nearly two decades, researchers have found that eating a diet rich in animal proteins during middle age makes you four times more likely to die of cancer than someone with a low-protein diet -- a mortality risk factor comparable to smoking.

"There's a misconception that because we all eat, understanding nutrition is simple. But the question is not whether a certain diet allows you to do well for three days, but can it help you survive to be 100?" said corresponding author Valter Longo, Edna M. Jones Professor of Biogerontology at the USC Davis School of Gerontology and director of the USC Longevity Institute. Longo has a joint appointment at the USC Dornsife College of Letters, Arts and Sciences.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.usc.edu ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Food; Health/Medicine; Science
KEYWORDS: cancer; cheese; diet; foodnazi; meat; protein; usc; vegans; vegetarian; vegetarianism; vegetarians
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1 posted on 03/06/2014 10:17:39 AM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Double mac and cheese for lunch. Woo Hoo!


2 posted on 03/06/2014 10:20:32 AM PST by rktman (Ethnicity: Redneck. Race: Daytona 500)
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To: EveningStar

Cancer.

The mortality rate of heart disease, emphysema, and a host of other diseases are much higher from smoking.


3 posted on 03/06/2014 10:20:33 AM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: EveningStar

What about smoked meats and cheeses?? Are they okay? Perhaps it’s like multiplying negative numbers...


4 posted on 03/06/2014 10:20:39 AM PST by irishjuggler
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To: EveningStar
Cool. I just had 2 cheeseburgers, and am now having my after-lunch cigarette.

Everybody dies of something.

/johnny

5 posted on 03/06/2014 10:21:02 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: EveningStar

Now everything is a bad as smoking except smoking pot which must be good for you because they never say anything about it’s impact on your lungs


6 posted on 03/06/2014 10:21:03 AM PST by KSCITYBOY
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To: EveningStar

Don’t worry. I smoke pot. It’s the miracle drug. It counteracts all the negative effects of cigarettes and fast food.


7 posted on 03/06/2014 10:22:00 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: EveningStar

Anything that makes life worth living is bad for you, I always thought that was kind of the point.


8 posted on 03/06/2014 10:22:46 AM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: EveningStar

Hopefully, all liberals not aborted by their mothers will opt for a vegetarian/vegan diet, smoke pot, run marathons to destroy their bodies, and become self absorbed narcissists.


9 posted on 03/06/2014 10:23:20 AM PST by Grampa Dave ( Obozo Care is a Trinity of Lies! Obozo Care is probably a serious Black Swan event.)
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To: EveningStar

One wonders exactly how they reconciled the potential for genetic and ethnic differences in many of their foreign test subjects/examples and correlated that with samples here in the US. Additionally, was the presence of any of the other government trumpeted known carcinogens factored into this study?

So - we now are to believe (per UCD) that MEAT and CHEESE are the “badforyous” de jour...it was only a few years ago they (collective government paid academia) was telling us that the French or the Italians (anybody but Americans, frankly) live so long because of all the CHEESE and wine they drink, or the goat meat, or chicken or whatever non American beef meat there is.

Dig down deep and you see it’s a NIA/NIH funded study. That tells me all I want to know.


10 posted on 03/06/2014 10:23:42 AM PST by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: EveningStar

More bullpucky from the anti-everything you like crowd


11 posted on 03/06/2014 10:24:42 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: EveningStar

“Meat and cheese may be as bad as smoking”

Pretty much lying propaganda by the anti-animal-protein crowd. The following sentence is a dead give away:

“They were also several times more likely to die of diabetes. “

SEVERAL times huh, as in, say multiple hundreds of percent greater? Pretty vague “conclusion” there. Not to mention all modern research shows that excess empty carbs and fructose are the cause of diabetes, and that protein and fat diets prevent and/or control existing diabetes.


12 posted on 03/06/2014 10:25:12 AM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: discostu
Anything that makes life worth living is bad for you, I always thought that was kind of the point.

Life's tough when everything you like is illegal, immoral or fattening!

13 posted on 03/06/2014 10:26:04 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: EveningStar

Couldn’t care less.


14 posted on 03/06/2014 10:26:36 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: EveningStar

Oh for heaven’s sake. Living must cause death because everybody dies sometime.


15 posted on 03/06/2014 10:27:18 AM PST by grania
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To: EveningStar

No one lives forever. With that in mind, one of the perfect foods in my opinion is a juicy bacon cheeseburger. No condiments aside from salt and pepper (two more things that someone will tell me are bad for me).


16 posted on 03/06/2014 10:27:39 AM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: EveningStar

It won’t be long until the government sends us a menu to follow.


17 posted on 03/06/2014 10:27:55 AM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: EveningStar

I don’t believe any study coming out of that agenda driven hellhole.


18 posted on 03/06/2014 10:29:07 AM PST by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: EveningStar

I get plenty of meat and cheese in my diet. What the hell, maybe I don’t need to bother to quit smoking since I’m doomed anyway!


19 posted on 03/06/2014 10:29:55 AM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (I'm not anti-government, government's anti-me.)
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To: EveningStar

The power of suggestion:

Off to the barbie for burnt flesh, cigar & Southern Comfort...


20 posted on 03/06/2014 10:30:03 AM PST by logi_cal869
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To: Grampa Dave

Having trained for and run in marathons in years past may have saved my life when I had the heart attack in June of 2011. The increased blood supply to my heart from that training minimized the damage done by the blockage.


21 posted on 03/06/2014 10:31:21 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: EveningStar

You can choose to live or you can choose to exist.

I choose to live and will enjoy my meat and cheese...


22 posted on 03/06/2014 10:32:55 AM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: EveningStar
meat ...cheese...bad

Reminds me I haven't been to fogo de chao recently. I'll have to take the family soon

23 posted on 03/06/2014 10:35:04 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: logi_cal869
Off to the barbie for burnt flesh, cigar & Southern Comfort...

Don't get me started on SoCo...It used top be a tasty 100 proof liquor; they've morphed it into a 70 proof liqueur that just isn't as satisfying. This from a beer guy, former bartender who has maybe a dozen hard liquor drinks a year.

24 posted on 03/06/2014 10:35:53 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: EveningStar

WHAT is with this craze that we all “go vegan???

they can all KMA! What you eat is your choice and yours alone. Leave me out of it!

Jeeze, first they tell us sitting is like smoking, so some companies installed TREADMILLS at work stations, now meat and cheese take time off our lives with every bite. I’m 64; I take walks when I can, park at the edge of the lot and walk some more, and eat what pleases me (sometimes it’s just a salad... Imagine that!) and -— three days out of the hospital, want to start a mild exercise regimen and build it, while respecting the limitations of my age and conditions (COPD and atrial fibrillation.)

NOTHING is ever enough for these zealots!

/rant off.


25 posted on 03/06/2014 10:35:57 AM PST by Mugwump
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To: logi_cal869

exactly... I am so sick and tired of all this crap..

my motto is everything in moderation.. I love my steak, but I don’t eat it every night... weekends....

I love cigars, whiskey...wine... and I’m not going to ever give any of that up....

I do exercise, but I also do that in moderation. I’m not spending every night at the freaking gym, and there are many at my gym that do... I sort of feel sorry for them, to be honest.


26 posted on 03/06/2014 10:36:09 AM PST by Chuzzlewit
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To: EveningStar

Was this study done by the same people that said that global warning will cause untold more murders and rapes?


27 posted on 03/06/2014 10:36:20 AM PST by aquila48
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To: EveningStar

But the good news is that this negative impact only applies to people under 65. And I got that going for me.


28 posted on 03/06/2014 10:39:14 AM PST by deweyfrank
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To: JRandomFreeper
Cool. I just had 2 cheeseburgers, and am now having my after-lunch cigarette.

Gave up the smokes but a cheeseburger is the perfect meal. Dairy, Meat, Grain and Vegetables. Sometimes I wake up in the morning and the first thing that pops in my mind is "I'm going to have a cheeseburger for lunch."

29 posted on 03/06/2014 10:39:16 AM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: EveningStar
Speaking of tasty fried chicken and such..

Healthwise this is germane. You may want to checkout Advanced Glycation Endproducts (AGEs).

"Food chemists have long studied [the] source of flavor, color, and texture changes in cooked, processed, and stored foods. During the 1970s and 1980s, it was realized that this process, called the Maillard reaction or advanced glycation . . . Advanced glycation endproducts (AGEs) . . . are implicated, causing the complications of diabetes and aging . . . ." Here.

AGEs is implicated in most (all?) autoimmune diseases and most (all?) aging-related problems.

30 posted on 03/06/2014 10:39:23 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: EveningStar

Maybe all the smokers dying in tobacco studies were actually burger eaters.


31 posted on 03/06/2014 10:40:33 AM PST by fruser1
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To: EveningStar
But these clowns want you to believe that “low-protein” means “no-protein”.

How many of those conducting the study are FAT?!?!

or....pasty and anemic?

32 posted on 03/06/2014 10:41:01 AM PST by G Larry (Did You Like That Better?)
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To: EveningStar

Every one has ancestors and are going to die, and who in their right mind would want to stay around for a hundred years and read environmental garbage.


33 posted on 03/06/2014 10:41:28 AM PST by ravenwolf
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To: EveningStar

I’ll tell my healthy-as-a-horse 88 year old father that his diet is killing him the next time I see him.


34 posted on 03/06/2014 10:42:13 AM PST by Dr. Thorne ("How long, O Lord, holy and true?" - Rev. 6:10)
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To: EveningStar

So how many Kosher Rabbis were engaged to participate in this study?


35 posted on 03/06/2014 10:46:38 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: JimRed
Don't get me started on SoCo...It used top be a tasty 100 proof liquor

I concur; not what it used to be.

36 posted on 03/06/2014 10:51:32 AM PST by logi_cal869
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To: EveningStar

note they will be doing a lot of stories on things that now increase your cancer risk to cover up the fukushima radiation coming over here.


37 posted on 03/06/2014 10:51:56 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: EveningStar
"eating a diet rich in animal proteins..."

I wonder if they are including fish wtih that.

38 posted on 03/06/2014 10:52:24 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Chuzzlewit

And let us not forget that our good neighbors are welcome to come over & BYOB but that the not-so-good neighbors are not and better not complain about that occasional smoke...nor to propose laws against it.

That will not be tolerated.

(and stop raising taxes on my damned cigars!!! Idiots. They had higher revenues when the taxes were half)


39 posted on 03/06/2014 10:58:33 AM PST by logi_cal869
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To: EveningStar

Study conducted in SoCal by vegan researcher - nothing to see here, putting story on /ignore.


40 posted on 03/06/2014 11:01:17 AM PST by epluribus_2 (he had the best mom - ever.)
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To: EveningStar

Bad:

Meat
Cheese
Eggs
Dairy in general, including milk and milk products
Grains
Nuts
Sugar
Sugar substitutes
Coffee

About the only things that are apparently safe include lettuce and grass — certain types of grass, of course.

No wonder no one gets out of life alive. Everything is gonna kill ya. If the bad foods don’t do you in, global climate change will definitely do it.

Some carry around a rabbit’s foot. How silly. Think of how much luck it broght the rabbit.


41 posted on 03/06/2014 11:06:33 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: EveningStar

“But the question is not whether a certain diet allows you to do well for three days, but can it help you survive to be 100?”

Hmmm...my Mom lived to be 85, and I am absolutely certain she did not want to live another 15 years.


42 posted on 03/06/2014 11:09:42 AM PST by Mr Rogers (I sooooo miss America!)
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To: EveningStar

“but can it help you survive to be 100?”

Do I really want to?


43 posted on 03/06/2014 11:12:14 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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44 posted on 03/06/2014 11:14:57 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Drango

Look, bucko - everybody gets it........You have swallowed hook line and sinker every study known to man that supports your unhealthy fear of people who enjoy tobacco products. We all get it - this article has nothing to do with smoking, so go peddle your paranoia somewhere, maybe somewhere that will justify the piddling amounts your handlers at the CDC and Pharma pay you to insult good people.


45 posted on 03/06/2014 11:16:02 AM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: G Larry

“The latest paper draws from Longo’s past research on IGF-I, including on an Ecuadorian cohort that seemed to have little cancer or diabetes susceptibility because of a genetic mutation that lowered levels of IGF-I; the members of the cohort were all less than 5-feet tall.”

Hmmm. Lets all become cancer-free runts!

“Longo’s findings support recommendations from several leading health agencies to consume about 0.8 grams of protein per kilogram of body weight every day in middle age. For example, a 130-pound person should eat about 45 to 50 grams of protein a day...

So at 175, I ought to eat 67 grams, or about 2 ounces to reduce my cancer risk. Frankly, I’d much rather eat like I want and die at 85, like my Mom, or 90, like my uncles.


46 posted on 03/06/2014 11:17:22 AM PST by Mr Rogers (I sooooo miss America!)
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To: Gaffer
When oh when oh when oh when are people going to learn that a study that ties outcomes to previous habits or consumption is worthless in and of itself?

Probably never.

Even "scientists" seem to fall for this crap.

In 1979 there was a study that found coffee drinkers "10x more likely to die from pancreatic cancer." Well ... not really. What it found was that people who already had pancreatic cancer were 10x more likely to be coffee drinkers than not. After correcting for percentage of coffee drinkers in the adult population and other factors, the effect was ... zero.

If the animal protein consumers turn out to have all died in their sleep at age 90 ... but from cancer, will that still be a worse outcome from the plant protein consumers who died at age 60 from pesticide accumulation or falls down the steps from discarded banana peels [or whatever]? Or will it be better?

This is scientific agitprop and people need to treat it with the derision it deserves.

47 posted on 03/06/2014 11:21:26 AM PST by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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To: Grampa Dave
"Hopefully, all liberals not aborted by their mothers will opt for a vegetarian/vegan diet, smoke pot, run marathons to destroy their bodies, and become self absorbed narcissists."

"become"???

48 posted on 03/06/2014 11:23:42 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Mohammed was a pedophile and Islam is a Totalitarian Death Cult.)
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To: EveningStar

No Gromit not the cheese. It can’t be the cheese.

http://www.wallaceandgromit.com/


49 posted on 03/06/2014 11:25:32 AM PST by A'elian' nation ("Political Correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred." Jacques Barzun)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Everybody dies of something.

Yep. Lack of breathing is nearly always fatal.

"Eat what you like, and die like a man."

50 posted on 03/06/2014 11:26:12 AM PST by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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