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Pilot in another plane was flying 30 minutes ahead of MH370 (had contact w lost plane)
Nst.com ^ | 3-9-14

Posted on 03/08/2014 7:31:30 PM PST by InvisibleChurch

'INTERFERENCE': Pilot in another plane was flying 30 minutes ahead of MH370 SEPANG: A BOEING 777 pilot, who was flying 30 minutes ahead of the missing Malaysia Airlines     aircraft, said he established contact with    MH370  minutes  after  he   was    asked to do so by  Vietnamese air traffic control. The captain, who asked to not be named, said his plane, which was bound for Narita, Japan, was far into Vietnamese airspace when he was asked to relay, using his plane's emergency frequency, to MH370 for the latter to establish its position, as the authorities could not contact the aircraft. "We managed to establish contact with MH370 just after 1.30am and asked them if they have transferred into Vietnamese airspace.

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KEYWORDS: fakepassports; hoax; iran; malaysia; mh370; planecrash; waronterror
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1 posted on 03/08/2014 7:31:30 PM PST by InvisibleChurch
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To: InvisibleChurch

Wonder if somehow transponder became faulty or was turned off? Of course this is not a full explanation and is probably not even the beginning of an explanation.


2 posted on 03/08/2014 7:37:01 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: InvisibleChurch

I wonder if the Muslim pilot put the plane into a fatal dive, yelling “Allahu akbar” just like another one did some years ago.


3 posted on 03/08/2014 7:37:31 PM PST by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

The plane that crashed had its wing smashed up on a runway a few years ago.


4 posted on 03/08/2014 7:37:45 PM PST by sunrise_sunset
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To: InvisibleChurch

This would seem to imply something was wrong in the cockpit and the pilots weren’t following procedure.


5 posted on 03/08/2014 7:39:47 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

yeah that was kind of my thought.... static, garbled, co-pilot voice.... then nothing.... I still tend to think Alluah Akbar


6 posted on 03/08/2014 7:41:37 PM PST by Nifster
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To: InvisibleChurch
With the available information, i can not help but think they are looking in the wrong location by at least 300 nm or more. If they were in the air for two hours they would be much further north than they are showing.

At 1:30 , 50 minutes into the flight, they already into Vietnam airspace. According to the reports, they fly another 1 hour and 10 minutes, approx 450 nm.

7 posted on 03/08/2014 7:42:24 PM PST by saywhatagain
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To: driftdiver

Weren’t or couldn’t


8 posted on 03/08/2014 7:43:28 PM PST by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: InvisibleChurch

“There were a lot of interference... static... but I heard mumbling from the other end.”

Mumbling? As in someone not speaking clearly or does he really mean not mumbling, but distorted due to the interference?


9 posted on 03/08/2014 7:43:47 PM PST by expat1000
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To: InvisibleChurch
Is there no radar tracking info to determine when and where contact was lost?

That would make debris searching simpler.

10 posted on 03/08/2014 7:45:47 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Nifster

Workplace violins?


11 posted on 03/08/2014 7:47:02 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: InvisibleChurch
He said those on the same frequency at the time would have heard the exchange. This, he said, would include vessels on the waters below.

Anyone else's hairs stand up reading that?

12 posted on 03/08/2014 7:47:30 PM PST by logi_cal869
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To: Paladin2

“Is there no radar tracking info to determine when and where contact was lost?”
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Most likely out of range of any radar site.


13 posted on 03/08/2014 7:49:49 PM PST by AlexW
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To: AlexW

There has got to be US Gov’t satellite data.


14 posted on 03/08/2014 7:51:06 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: beethovenfan

Both pilots were Muslim from the manifesto, the Pilot was 53 years old and the Co-Pilot was I believe 27 years old, for that theory to make sense the co-pilot must have been OK with plummeting to his death because no one said a peep, if I was a co-pilot on a plane and the Pilot was getting ready to off himself I would have been screaming bloody murder to the control tower


15 posted on 03/08/2014 7:51:16 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: logi_cal869
He said those on the same frequency at the time would have heard the exchange. This, he said, would include vessels on the waters below.

Anyone else's hairs stand up reading that?

Vessels on the water? Do we know where Kerry was?

16 posted on 03/08/2014 7:53:56 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: saywhatagain

Here’s my conspiracy theory - pilot takes a break, and co-pilot dumps the fuel...causing the fuel slicks that have been found. The deed is done, and nobody can wrestle the controls from him to save the plane. And they just fall out of the sky...but a little north of the fuel slicks.


17 posted on 03/08/2014 7:53:59 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: expat1000

Interference. Departed 30 minutes sooner means approximately 200 nm distance ahead. Pretty normal not to be able to make clear contact.

However, they fly another hour and ten minutes. There is absolutely no excuse for the aircraft in distress not to make a call. Even if he lost or forgot to mKe a call to center, when company called, he would or should have tried the emergency frequency and make contact.


18 posted on 03/08/2014 7:54:21 PM PST by saywhatagain
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To: Sarah Barracuda

“if I was a co-pilot on a plane and the Pilot was getting ready to off himself I would have been screaming bloody murder to the control tower”

Makes certain sense to you and I but remember the Asiana co-pilot last July that said nothing as the Captain flew that 777 onto the ground in SFO. And the co- was actually training the Captain on the type. Strange indeed.


19 posted on 03/08/2014 7:57:18 PM PST by FAA
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To: hoosiermama

That’s the key question.


20 posted on 03/08/2014 8:00:38 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: saywhatagain

In that case, if it was you, would you use the verb “mumbling?” I don’t think so - that describes how someone is speaking which is completely different than interference. When I’m talking to someone overseas on Skype and the connection is bad, I sure wouldn’t ask why they are mumbling.

I dunno - maybe I am putting too much into it. Sure is a lot that doesn’t add up, tho.


21 posted on 03/08/2014 8:01:50 PM PST by expat1000
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To: saywhatagain

They had one of those experts on with Geraldo tonight who says he believes this is terrorism, why, because he said that with 777 planes they automatically send signals to the tower, the Pilot doesn’t have to do anything, the fact that nothing was sent to the tower is very suspicious to him


22 posted on 03/08/2014 8:02:41 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: InvisibleChurch

I saw a report online that N. Korea had test fired a missile in that general direction...but haven’t seen any more about this. Is that still possible?


23 posted on 03/08/2014 8:02:57 PM PST by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

The National Transportation Safety Board determines that the probable cause of the EgyptAir flight 990 accident is the airplane’s departure from normal cruise flight and subsequent impact with the Atlantic Ocean as a result of the relief first officer’s flight control inputs. The reason for the relief first officer’s actions was not determined.

The blackbox recordings indicate that Rushdy had left his first-class seat and entered the cockpit. But as soon as he left, el-Batouty, who was supposed to fly the second five-hour section of the flight, entered the cockpit and ordered a younger first officer out of his chair.

Saying “I rely on God”, he switched off the auto-pilot and pushed the plane into a dive.

Captain Ahmed el-Habashi, who had been out of the cockpit managed to struggle back in, and shouted: “What’s happening, Gamil? What’s happening?” El-Batouty said again “I rely on God,” and shut down the fuel to both engines.

Habishi shouted: “What is this? Did you shut the engines?” and grabbed the controls. “Pull with me! Pull with me!” he screamed.

The plane, which had been in a nosedive, then soared back up to 24,000 feet, but lost all power and broke up from the stress.

(The article says that this was his last flight because he was being fired for sexual misconduct, and his boss was onboard, so he took the plane down partly in revenge)


24 posted on 03/08/2014 8:04:35 PM PST by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: FAA

Difference was that was an accident, unfortunately people did die but it was not intentional, it was pilot error, and the plane was still pretty much in tact after it crashed, my question is, where the heck is the plane..did it sink like a rock(I would assume eventually it would come to the surface) because I really doubt the plane was bombed, if it was you would see little bits of plane all over the place, baggage, seats, bodies, something


25 posted on 03/08/2014 8:05:40 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Mastador1

LOL.

My point was that pilots know ships use different frequencies.

At least they used to...


26 posted on 03/08/2014 8:06:13 PM PST by logi_cal869
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To: lacrew
LOL. Hey its as good as all the others

Not too likely, considering that Malaysia is the most diverse country here in southeast asia. Muslims make up only 60 percent of the population. Except for the northern section, they are not known to be radicals.

Far too early and zero known data to be speculating. But i guess it makes it fun for some. And many have to put order in their brain to make sense of the world. Even if the facts are they are speculating on are wrong.

27 posted on 03/08/2014 8:06:17 PM PST by saywhatagain
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To: lacrew

“Here’s my conspiracy theory - pilot takes a break, and co-pilot dumps the fuel...causing the fuel slicks that have been found. The deed is done, and nobody can wrestle the controls from him to save the plane. And they just fall out of the sky...but a little north of the fuel slicks.”

How about not contacting the tower?


28 posted on 03/08/2014 8:06:46 PM PST by expat1000
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To: expat1000

Come on. english is not their native language. They use words they know to best describe the situation. Half of the time the verbs and adjectives are wrong


29 posted on 03/08/2014 8:08:04 PM PST by saywhatagain
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To: Sarah Barracuda
Thats funny. First of all, the nearest "tower" is probably 200 nautical miles or more away.

If it was a hijacking, and there is a real possibility of that. Almost any trained terrorist know about all the "secret codes" and techniques available to the pilots.

In a moment of duress, putting in the hijack code is the last thing i am worried about. Yes it is important, but fighting for my life probably will come first

30 posted on 03/08/2014 8:13:14 PM PST by saywhatagain
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To: InvisibleChurch; stylecouncilor

I suspect Vietnam’s Central Highlands. Extremely rugged. Very remote. Days out as opposed to debris that should have been detected by now in their coastal waters.


31 posted on 03/08/2014 8:14:31 PM PST by onedoug
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To: saywhatagain

If this was terrorism, I know many have said “Well how come no one has claimed responsibility” maybe there is a reason for that..maybe they have a new way of bringing down planes but they don’t want to reveal it yet because there would be even more added security..remember that warning about explosives in toothpaste, or water bottles..or maybe this was an inside job, the baggage handler, they have to investigate everyone


32 posted on 03/08/2014 8:15:46 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda

I actually thought maybe a last minute bag added to the baggage compartment by an employee... but no debri out there when they found oil slick changed my mind, unless some shows up soon.


33 posted on 03/08/2014 8:19:12 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: Sarah Barracuda
Oh you can bet they will investigate everything. But the real question is will they tell the public all the truth and everything they know?

No they will not!

34 posted on 03/08/2014 8:20:14 PM PST by saywhatagain
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To: Sarah Barracuda

In either scenario I am the guy in the other seat and the Captain is getting ready to kill me and everyone else aboard. I say something.

As for the plane. Suddenly blinking off of the radar. No distress call, auto or manual. There was a sudden catastrophic event. Mechanical? A bomb? Waits to be seen. And it doesn’t take a bomb to find little bits of a plane here and there after an accident. Math and gravity solve that for us.


35 posted on 03/08/2014 8:20:29 PM PST by FAA
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To: Mastador1

Kerry? Windsurfing maybe?


36 posted on 03/08/2014 8:20:46 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: expat1000

I think of mumbling as something a person does when having a stroke .... Lack of oxygen
Could the ventilation system simply have stopped working?


37 posted on 03/08/2014 8:21:11 PM PST by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: FAA
PzFeed Top News ‏@PzFeed 56m Malaysia Airlines #MH370: - 4 passengers used fake passports - Vanished 32 hours ago - 239 on board - U. S. & Chinese Navy warships en route So now its FOUR passengers with fake passports..gee, if this was terrorism how many dudes does it take to blow up a plane
38 posted on 03/08/2014 8:21:41 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: InvisibleChurch

satellites should be picking up the ELT signals.


39 posted on 03/08/2014 8:21:41 PM PST by kik5150
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To: Sarah Barracuda

One of those experts pointed out that what happened to the golfer could have happened to this plane. As the plane rose in altitude the pilot forgot to adjust the cabin pressure. Everyone would have simply fallen asleep.


40 posted on 03/08/2014 8:23:04 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Paladin2

just ahead of whirled peas ;)


41 posted on 03/08/2014 8:23:52 PM PST by Nifster
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To: hoosiermama

See post #40.


42 posted on 03/08/2014 8:24:04 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: VerySadAmerican

Couldn’t they track it until it crashed? I know they tracked the golfers plane over several states. It seems this plane was there and then gone in almost an instant?


43 posted on 03/08/2014 8:25:25 PM PST by halo66
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Four fake passports on one flight.

If so, what does that tell us about international flying in SEA? The world for that matter. If “they” can get four passengers on a plane with fake creds.......damn.

Seriously.


44 posted on 03/08/2014 8:30:25 PM PST by FAA
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To: FAA

One fake passport, OK I can see that happening..two, will give the airline the benefit of the doubt, maybe someone wasn’t being thorough but FOUR fake passports, geez what the heck is that all about..a suicide mission..I would think it wouldn’t take multiple people to bring down a plane, wasn’t one person enough?


45 posted on 03/08/2014 8:32:09 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: InvisibleChurch

Phu Quoc Triangle


46 posted on 03/08/2014 8:32:28 PM PST by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: InvisibleChurch

It wasn’t the pilot. He had a twitter, seems as normal as can be.


47 posted on 03/08/2014 8:32:43 PM PST by sunrise_sunset
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To: onedoug; driftdiver

This latest piece of information has me fascinated to the point I’m trying to remember where I put my tin foil hat.

If I recall correctly, this contact with the plane was 10-20+ minutes after the last contact it had with the tower.

Obviously suggesting the plane was not instantaneously destroyed by some cataclysmic event. And also suggesting the pilots had ample time to send any distress signals.


48 posted on 03/08/2014 8:35:40 PM PST by fiftymegaton (God Bless and Protect America)
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To: InvisibleChurch

This is a false report.

@AntDeRosa Officials says report that another pilot established contact with missing #MH370 is false


49 posted on 03/08/2014 8:36:11 PM PST by jodster36
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To: saywhatagain

“Come on. english is not their native language. They use words they know to best describe the situation. Half of the time the verbs and adjectives are wrong”

His recounting of the events was in perfect English, but yes, I could be making too much of this.

http://www.nst.com.my/nation/general/font-color-red-missing-mh370-font-pilot-i-established-contact-with-plane-1.503464


50 posted on 03/08/2014 8:38:05 PM PST by expat1000
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