Skip to comments.Pilot in another plane was flying 30 minutes ahead of MH370 (had contact w lost plane)
Posted on 03/08/2014 7:31:30 PM PST by InvisibleChurch
'INTERFERENCE': Pilot in another plane was flying 30 minutes ahead of MH370 SEPANG: A BOEING 777 pilot, who was flying 30 minutes ahead of the missing Malaysia Airlines aircraft, said he established contact with MH370 minutes after he was asked to do so by Vietnamese air traffic control. The captain, who asked to not be named, said his plane, which was bound for Narita, Japan, was far into Vietnamese airspace when he was asked to relay, using his plane's emergency frequency, to MH370 for the latter to establish its position, as the authorities could not contact the aircraft. "We managed to establish contact with MH370 just after 1.30am and asked them if they have transferred into Vietnamese airspace.
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Wonder if somehow transponder became faulty or was turned off? Of course this is not a full explanation and is probably not even the beginning of an explanation.
I wonder if the Muslim pilot put the plane into a fatal dive, yelling “Allahu akbar” just like another one did some years ago.
The plane that crashed had its wing smashed up on a runway a few years ago.
This would seem to imply something was wrong in the cockpit and the pilots weren’t following procedure.
yeah that was kind of my thought.... static, garbled, co-pilot voice.... then nothing.... I still tend to think Alluah Akbar
At 1:30 , 50 minutes into the flight, they already into Vietnam airspace. According to the reports, they fly another 1 hour and 10 minutes, approx 450 nm.
Weren’t or couldn’t
“There were a lot of interference... static... but I heard mumbling from the other end.”
Mumbling? As in someone not speaking clearly or does he really mean not mumbling, but distorted due to the interference?
That would make debris searching simpler.
Anyone else's hairs stand up reading that?
“Is there no radar tracking info to determine when and where contact was lost?”
Most likely out of range of any radar site.
There has got to be US Gov’t satellite data.
Both pilots were Muslim from the manifesto, the Pilot was 53 years old and the Co-Pilot was I believe 27 years old, for that theory to make sense the co-pilot must have been OK with plummeting to his death because no one said a peep, if I was a co-pilot on a plane and the Pilot was getting ready to off himself I would have been screaming bloody murder to the control tower
Anyone else's hairs stand up reading that?
Vessels on the water? Do we know where Kerry was?
Here’s my conspiracy theory - pilot takes a break, and co-pilot dumps the fuel...causing the fuel slicks that have been found. The deed is done, and nobody can wrestle the controls from him to save the plane. And they just fall out of the sky...but a little north of the fuel slicks.
Interference. Departed 30 minutes sooner means approximately 200 nm distance ahead. Pretty normal not to be able to make clear contact.
However, they fly another hour and ten minutes. There is absolutely no excuse for the aircraft in distress not to make a call. Even if he lost or forgot to mKe a call to center, when company called, he would or should have tried the emergency frequency and make contact.
“if I was a co-pilot on a plane and the Pilot was getting ready to off himself I would have been screaming bloody murder to the control tower”
Makes certain sense to you and I but remember the Asiana co-pilot last July that said nothing as the Captain flew that 777 onto the ground in SFO. And the co- was actually training the Captain on the type. Strange indeed.
That’s the key question.
In that case, if it was you, would you use the verb “mumbling?” I don’t think so - that describes how someone is speaking which is completely different than interference. When I’m talking to someone overseas on Skype and the connection is bad, I sure wouldn’t ask why they are mumbling.
I dunno - maybe I am putting too much into it. Sure is a lot that doesn’t add up, tho.
They had one of those experts on with Geraldo tonight who says he believes this is terrorism, why, because he said that with 777 planes they automatically send signals to the tower, the Pilot doesn’t have to do anything, the fact that nothing was sent to the tower is very suspicious to him
I saw a report online that N. Korea had test fired a missile in that general direction...but haven’t seen any more about this. Is that still possible?
The National Transportation Safety Board determines that the probable cause of the EgyptAir flight 990 accident is the airplane’s departure from normal cruise flight and subsequent impact with the Atlantic Ocean as a result of the relief first officer’s flight control inputs. The reason for the relief first officer’s actions was not determined.
The blackbox recordings indicate that Rushdy had left his first-class seat and entered the cockpit. But as soon as he left, el-Batouty, who was supposed to fly the second five-hour section of the flight, entered the cockpit and ordered a younger first officer out of his chair.
Saying “I rely on God”, he switched off the auto-pilot and pushed the plane into a dive.
Captain Ahmed el-Habashi, who had been out of the cockpit managed to struggle back in, and shouted: “What’s happening, Gamil? What’s happening?” El-Batouty said again “I rely on God,” and shut down the fuel to both engines.
Habishi shouted: “What is this? Did you shut the engines?” and grabbed the controls. “Pull with me! Pull with me!” he screamed.
The plane, which had been in a nosedive, then soared back up to 24,000 feet, but lost all power and broke up from the stress.
(The article says that this was his last flight because he was being fired for sexual misconduct, and his boss was onboard, so he took the plane down partly in revenge)
Difference was that was an accident, unfortunately people did die but it was not intentional, it was pilot error, and the plane was still pretty much in tact after it crashed, my question is, where the heck is the plane..did it sink like a rock(I would assume eventually it would come to the surface) because I really doubt the plane was bombed, if it was you would see little bits of plane all over the place, baggage, seats, bodies, something
My point was that pilots know ships use different frequencies.
At least they used to...
Not too likely, considering that Malaysia is the most diverse country here in southeast asia. Muslims make up only 60 percent of the population. Except for the northern section, they are not known to be radicals.
Far too early and zero known data to be speculating. But i guess it makes it fun for some. And many have to put order in their brain to make sense of the world. Even if the facts are they are speculating on are wrong.
“Heres my conspiracy theory - pilot takes a break, and co-pilot dumps the fuel...causing the fuel slicks that have been found. The deed is done, and nobody can wrestle the controls from him to save the plane. And they just fall out of the sky...but a little north of the fuel slicks.”
How about not contacting the tower?
Come on. english is not their native language. They use words they know to best describe the situation. Half of the time the verbs and adjectives are wrong
If it was a hijacking, and there is a real possibility of that. Almost any trained terrorist know about all the "secret codes" and techniques available to the pilots.
In a moment of duress, putting in the hijack code is the last thing i am worried about. Yes it is important, but fighting for my life probably will come first
I suspect Vietnam’s Central Highlands. Extremely rugged. Very remote. Days out as opposed to debris that should have been detected by now in their coastal waters.
If this was terrorism, I know many have said “Well how come no one has claimed responsibility” maybe there is a reason for that..maybe they have a new way of bringing down planes but they don’t want to reveal it yet because there would be even more added security..remember that warning about explosives in toothpaste, or water bottles..or maybe this was an inside job, the baggage handler, they have to investigate everyone
I actually thought maybe a last minute bag added to the baggage compartment by an employee... but no debri out there when they found oil slick changed my mind, unless some shows up soon.
No they will not!
In either scenario I am the guy in the other seat and the Captain is getting ready to kill me and everyone else aboard. I say something.
As for the plane. Suddenly blinking off of the radar. No distress call, auto or manual. There was a sudden catastrophic event. Mechanical? A bomb? Waits to be seen. And it doesn’t take a bomb to find little bits of a plane here and there after an accident. Math and gravity solve that for us.
Kerry? Windsurfing maybe?
I think of mumbling as something a person does when having a stroke .... Lack of oxygen
Could the ventilation system simply have stopped working?
satellites should be picking up the ELT signals.
One of those experts pointed out that what happened to the golfer could have happened to this plane. As the plane rose in altitude the pilot forgot to adjust the cabin pressure. Everyone would have simply fallen asleep.
just ahead of whirled peas ;)
See post #40.
Couldn’t they track it until it crashed? I know they tracked the golfers plane over several states. It seems this plane was there and then gone in almost an instant?
Four fake passports on one flight.
If so, what does that tell us about international flying in SEA? The world for that matter. If “they” can get four passengers on a plane with fake creds.......damn.
One fake passport, OK I can see that happening..two, will give the airline the benefit of the doubt, maybe someone wasn’t being thorough but FOUR fake passports, geez what the heck is that all about..a suicide mission..I would think it wouldn’t take multiple people to bring down a plane, wasn’t one person enough?
Phu Quoc Triangle
It wasn’t the pilot. He had a twitter, seems as normal as can be.
This latest piece of information has me fascinated to the point I’m trying to remember where I put my tin foil hat.
If I recall correctly, this contact with the plane was 10-20+ minutes after the last contact it had with the tower.
Obviously suggesting the plane was not instantaneously destroyed by some cataclysmic event. And also suggesting the pilots had ample time to send any distress signals.
This is a false report.
@AntDeRosa Officials says report that another pilot established contact with missing #MH370 is false
“Come on. english is not their native language. They use words they know to best describe the situation. Half of the time the verbs and adjectives are wrong”
His recounting of the events was in perfect English, but yes, I could be making too much of this.