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18 Year-Old Wins Free Healthcare in Lawsuit Against Parents
CNS News ^ | 03/07/2014 | Timothy Hill

Posted on 03/09/2014 9:04:51 AM PDT by Rusty0604

Rachel Canning, the 18 year-old teenager from New Jersey who sued her parents for financial support, won a partial victory in court this week, courtesy of Obamacare. Morris County Court Judge Peter Bogaard, according to the story, ruled that Rachel's parents must keep her on their health insurance policy. To me, this sets a dangerous precedent when it comes to the long legal road of Obamacare enforcement. Now, kids living away from their parents can stay on their parents' health plans, whether their parents like it or not. It's one thing for parents to choose to keep their college student on their health plan, but under the new health care law and with this new case, Rachel might be able to keep forcing her parents to foot the bill for almost eight more years!

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1 posted on 03/09/2014 9:04:52 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

Another example of government control over personal choice or freedom.


2 posted on 03/09/2014 9:06:24 AM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Rusty0604

This is a bit of a dangerous precedent when you think about it.


3 posted on 03/09/2014 9:07:40 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Rusty0604

Is it until she graduates high school or past that point? And if they signed a contract with the school last spring, they are going to have to finish paying for the school. But once this twit graduates, she is on her own


4 posted on 03/09/2014 9:09:47 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Rusty0604
Just declare all white people slaves and be done with it.
5 posted on 03/09/2014 9:10:26 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Barack Hussein Obama entertains a thought that he does not verbalize, is it still a lie?)
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To: yldstrk

She can stay on the parents’ healthcare plan until age 26 regardless of anything else.


6 posted on 03/09/2014 9:11:23 AM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Rusty0604
Rachel might be able to keep forcing her parents to foot the bill for almost eight more years!

Assume she goes to College and stays for a while. No Rachel's Parents Employer gets the pick-up the cost shift, not her parents, but at some point maybe they will feel it aka the UPS drop the spouse scenario, not to mention the changes they have already felt to their co-buy, co-pays, and deductibles.

Tangent to this, her college loans are federalized and she can't now buy a high deductible health care plan, (because of Oboingocare) that used to be offered to College Students as they were a "natural group".

How's dat Hopey-Changey wurkin' for dis Jersey Family....

7 posted on 03/09/2014 9:11:59 AM PDT by taildragger (The E-GOP won't know what hit them, The Party of Reagan is almost here, hang tight folks....)
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To: Rusty0604

I seem to think this is already the case - at least requiring insurance companies to offer the coverage to something like 26 as part of the package. If anything, making the parents list her is the new part. But you have been, by law, able to list your kids up to age 26, even if they are married or eligible for their own insurance.


8 posted on 03/09/2014 9:12:05 AM PDT by T. P. Pole
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
it tis a NEW DAY...a New Generation..and a New PIA


9 posted on 03/09/2014 9:12:29 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Jesus came to Save not Entertain / Ground John Kerry Now!)
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To: Rusty0604
on what grounds??? the law says they CAN keep them on till 26, NOT that they HAVE too!!!
10 posted on 03/09/2014 9:12:51 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Innovative

I know she is eligible, but is the ruling that they have to pay for it past graduation, or is it on her to pay for it


11 posted on 03/09/2014 9:13:43 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Rusty0604

I want a Playstation and I don’t have one. I’m suing my 83 year old mother to buy me one. /sarc


12 posted on 03/09/2014 9:16:31 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: Innovative

From my understanding the ACA required insurers to allow coverage until 26. Does that mean the parent is forced into paying any extra premium?
In this case, what if the parent lost their insurance plan?


13 posted on 03/09/2014 9:17:06 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: yldstrk

“Is it until she graduates high school or past that point?”

I think the current law is that parents must pay medical care until the “child” turns 26.


14 posted on 03/09/2014 9:17:16 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Gen.Blather

I thought it was that they can


15 posted on 03/09/2014 9:17:59 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: T. P. Pole
at least requiring insurance companies to offer the coverage to something like 26 as part of the package

What cannot be said is some Corporations who's employees kids are brainiac's and have a high propensity of said kids in College pursuing Degrees are costing said Corporations a fortune and they do not dare speak it and attract the ire of Lear Deader...

16 posted on 03/09/2014 9:19:23 AM PDT by taildragger (The E-GOP won't know what hit them, The Party of Reagan is almost here, hang tight folks....)
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To: yldstrk
"And if they signed a contract with the school last spring, they are going to have to finish paying for the school"...

This hasn't been made clear, they may have notified the school that they would not continue after December 2012.

I wouldn't be surprised, for after all the school had turned against them even to reporting them to Family Services instead of sending someone from the church to talk to the parents and finding out who was wrong here...

17 posted on 03/09/2014 9:22:57 AM PDT by virgil283 (When the sun spins, the cross appears, and the skies burn red)
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To: yldstrk

“I thought it was that they can”

The friend of a friend tried to throw out his ex-wife’s twenty-something’s who sat around smoking pot and playing video games. They took him to court and not only can he not throw them out, he has to keep them on his insurance until they turn 26. He was trying to retire and now can’t. Now, whether insurance is a requirement or an option, I don’t know.


18 posted on 03/09/2014 9:23:30 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: taildragger

If a daughter under 26 gets pregnant...lives away from parents (maybe with boyfriend)...do parents still have to list her on their insurance


19 posted on 03/09/2014 9:24:43 AM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: Chode

” on what grounds??? the law says they CAN keep them on till 26, NOT that they HAVE too!!!”

That is a very valid point. Who in their right mind would WANT to keep an adult on a parents policy until they turn 26? Twenty-six? He’ll, in some countries the life expectancy is barely twice that!


20 posted on 03/09/2014 9:28:19 AM PDT by 9422WMR (: " Tolerance is the virtue of a man who has no convictions".)
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To: goodnesswins

Boy you got me, but given the sit on your @$$ and light up a Camel mentality of Pelosi / Obama and it is gonna be great, do what you want as an artist you are free, anything is possible. The Fubaring of the greatest healthcare system and governmental system known to man in history continues...


21 posted on 03/09/2014 9:29:19 AM PDT by taildragger (The E-GOP won't know what hit them, The Party of Reagan is almost here, hang tight folks....)
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To: Rusty0604

But if she is not in the same general area, there may not be any doctors or hospitals covered by the plan!!!!


22 posted on 03/09/2014 9:29:49 AM PDT by Forrestfire ("If everybody is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking." Gen. George Patton)
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To: Gen.Blather

Is the twenty-something his child or step? And he has to cover whether he has employer insurance or not?


23 posted on 03/09/2014 9:30:29 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: headstamp 2

If we fail to take control with sufficient majorities in November this nobamacare thing is going to get way out of hand. The dem/lib’s back is up against the wall, they are doubling down, as they say “don’t confuse em with facts, their minds are made up”.


24 posted on 03/09/2014 9:32:45 AM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: Rusty0604

What did people think was going to happen when the government said that children CAN stay on parent’s policy until they are 26???

There is a short hop from CAN to WILL.


25 posted on 03/09/2014 9:34:14 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: 9422WMR
legislation from the bench again...

i'd double down on the lawyer bills before i pay another dime on her ins

millions for defense, not a penny in tribute

26 posted on 03/09/2014 9:34:22 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Rusty0604

“Is the twenty-something his child or step? And he has to cover whether he has employer insurance or not?”

The kids were hers by another man. I don’t know whether he adopted or any other details. This was before Obamacare and I’m sure they were on his work insurance. But as to now, I have no idea. The mutual friend has moved away so I’m no longer up to date.

But from listening to my work buddies who have had the misfortune of coming in front of a family judge, they tend to take into account the “welfare” of the “child” regardless of age or circumstances.

This guy apparently didn’t have a problem having these young people living with him, but he wanted them to get a job or help out around the house. Also, he didn’t want pot in the house. All of those things seem reasonable to me. But, not the judge.


27 posted on 03/09/2014 9:37:29 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: goodnesswins
I have no idea where they came up with 26 but when I was 26 years old, I had already been out on my own for 8 years, had purchased my first house and was starting a family. The notion that my parents would still need to support me at that age just seems so bizarre. I left their nest just a few months out of high school and never looked back.

I was thinking the same thing about this young woman. So she can go get herself knocked up and her parents still must provide her, and by extension, her illegitimate child with health care? The world has gone totally nuts.

28 posted on 03/09/2014 9:41:07 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Rusty0604

So the court is forcing her patents to do what obamacare are already mandates.
OK. then


29 posted on 03/09/2014 9:44:22 AM PDT by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: Rusty0604

Something similar has happened to me. My adult (loose term) stepson got drunk and broke his ankle. He went to the ER and gave them MY information. Now my plan covers him, even though he was 24 at the time. But I hadn’t used insurance that year...and no deductible had been paid yet.

Guess where the hospital sent the bill for that? I straightened it out...but it just isn’t right for an adult child to put my name on the dotted line. He doesn’t even live with me. He’s too stupid to know my I insurance info, so the hospital probably looked it up based on my name and previous visits there. He still hasn’t paid them...I’m sure one day it will show up on my credit report.

It should be optional. Its my insurance, right? Shouldn’t I be consulted before my co-workers in my group plan pay for his stupidity?


30 posted on 03/09/2014 9:45:14 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: goodnesswins

This is BD.
At 26 my kids were graduated from college and owned their own homes.


31 posted on 03/09/2014 9:46:23 AM PDT by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: Rusty0604
It does. Don't kid yourself, the only reason obamacare is not being enforced in its entirety is that the enforce mechanism was not ready. it has nothing to do with compassion or giving the people a chance or choice. And the end purpose of obamacare is death and destruction. The death of the elderly and infirm and the destruction of the medical system and profession. But that is what the majority voted for, twice in concession.
32 posted on 03/09/2014 9:50:51 AM PDT by sport
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To: Gen.Blather

I’m sure the judge would also think it was reasonable if a swat team busted in his house, found the twenty-something’s pot, and confiscated his assets.


33 posted on 03/09/2014 9:50:59 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: lacrew

“Its my insurance, right? Shouldn’t I be consulted before my co-workers in my group plan pay for his stupidity?”

Yes, and yes.


34 posted on 03/09/2014 9:53:26 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: 9422WMR

I’m glad we get to keep our daughters on our plan. They both have disabilities: epilepsy and dystonia a movement disorder.

Even if they get coverage from work, I’m hoping it will be duel and cover more of their expenses.

If I could save up enough moeny for my daughter with epilepsy to never work, I would do it.

I don’t want her to ever be dependent on the government, but I’m afraid she will be.

If my husband had gotten cancer 2 years ago and then laid off, i think we could have. Now, we’re blowing through our savings. Ugh.


35 posted on 03/09/2014 10:01:50 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: Rusty0604

I actually happen to have sat in this judge’s court. She’s an in you face, hands on hips, rocking her head from side to side, “Say WHAT!?” kind of black woman. She was appointed by Democratic governor Lawton Childs who gave us some incredibly bad judges.

Interestingly, I sat through several black divorce cases and she never, once, listened to anything the man had to say all the way through. She was incredibly unfair, even to black men. But a black woman would get anything she wanted, no matter how ridiculous. When this judge stands for election, she has huge posters showing her from the knees up with her hands on hips and holding a gavel and this Judge Judy expression on her face. It’s almost farcical.


36 posted on 03/09/2014 10:01:52 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Innovative

Amazing - the law doesn’t allow parents to keep paying premiums for their kids until they’re of age 26, it forces them to do so. Simply incredible.


37 posted on 03/09/2014 10:02:36 AM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: goodnesswins
My understanding is the daughter is still covered, although the delivery of the child would be a non covered service.

Bottom line because of the coverage until age 26 rule in the ACA, 26 will be interpreted to be the new age of emancipation from parents. Divorce lawyers will have a field day.

38 posted on 03/09/2014 10:04:12 AM PDT by buckalfa (Tilting at Windmills)
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To: Gen.Blather

It is sad that judges like that are allowed to discriminate against men. Unfortunately, I’ve known quite a few men who’s lives were ruined in divorce court.


39 posted on 03/09/2014 10:12:44 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Innovative

Freedom is something you can only read about now Obama&CO have power.


40 posted on 03/09/2014 10:16:42 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Innovative; All

You lost that long ago. Ocare MANDATES that you keep your children on your policy until the age of 26 years. It is not a maybe or you can. It is a you must.... even if they are married


41 posted on 03/09/2014 10:29:43 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: 9422WMR

“Twenty-six? He’ll, in some countries the life expectancy is barely twice that!”

What do you imagine the goal of OCare is? Coming sooner than you think.


42 posted on 03/09/2014 10:31:41 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Rusty0604

One way or the other, if anything happened to the little brat, or other brats similarly situated, the parents would get stuck with the bill. Might as well keep her on their insurance plan while the case is pending.


43 posted on 03/09/2014 10:35:13 AM PDT by EDINVA
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Thank goodness the people who set up Obamacare didn’t decide to use The Lord of the Rings as a reference for insurance coverages. Hobbits come of age at 33. But then people would remember that the hobbits rose up and scoured the shire of their oppressors at the end of that book. So only McCain calls us Hobbits, as far as I know. And I’d doubt he has ever bothered much with Tolkien. All that silly good-evil stuff. He’s more likely a part of the “money and power” vs. “less money, no power” theme in Washington.


44 posted on 03/09/2014 11:02:11 AM PDT by Coyote Choir
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To: Rusty0604

How about the guy who put up the money for the lawsuit
pay for her insurance as well.

And all other expenses for that matter.


45 posted on 03/09/2014 11:34:29 AM PDT by markoman (The man with the rubber glove was....surprisingly gentle.)
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To: Rusty0604

The parents are both liberal, they raised their daughter to be a lefty, so hey parents, how is that hopey changey working out for you? You created this monster, now eat your peas and enjoy


46 posted on 03/09/2014 11:43:37 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Rusty0604

Yeah well I have known some women and children whose lives were ruined because the man’s new paramour was pressuring him to get married to her


47 posted on 03/09/2014 12:01:36 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: sport

And the end purpose of obamacare is death and destruction. The death of the elderly and infirm and the destruction of the medical system and profession.

&&
Exactly.


48 posted on 03/09/2014 12:12:58 PM PDT by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: yldstrk

I’ve known some cases like that too. I am female btw, I just think outcomes should be as just as possible.


49 posted on 03/09/2014 12:13:11 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: svcw

“At 26 my kids were graduated from college and owned their own homes.”

That was in a long-time ago an in a galaxy far, far away. Now, for the most part, 26-year olds are buying their first xBox game with their own money. Still gotta plug it into Ma and Pa’s outlet in the basement, though. It’s a combination of lack of opportunity, lack of motivation, and a bit “too much” of a support system. Even worse, I can’t even see why any young person would buy a house these days, with jobs (and even entire industries) so transient and tenuous.


50 posted on 03/09/2014 12:24:04 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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