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I saw one of these in my subdivision when we first built here around 1997. I couldn't decide if it was a wolf (which we are not supposed to have here) or a coyote. Looked to big and furry to be a coyote but had a coyote snout. Haven't seen one since.This solves the mystery.
1 posted on 03/09/2014 2:01:09 PM PDT by DBCJR
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"..they made puppywhoop somewhere around St Louis"

2 posted on 03/09/2014 2:03:27 PM PDT by Doogle (( USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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We have them in Greentree PA just south of Pittsburgh. I have seen them several times over the past few years. Greentree even had a warning on their webpage about coyotes but they are Eastern Coyotes, Coywolves.


3 posted on 03/09/2014 2:07:01 PM PDT by prisoner6 (FREEDOM)
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There is an excellent tv show on the Coywolves.

Video: Meet the Coywolf | Watch Nature Online | PBS Video http://video.pbs.org/video/2365159966 - 43k - Cached - Similar pages Jan 22, 2014 ... The coywolf, a mixture of western coyote and eastern wolf, is a ... Watch videos


4 posted on 03/09/2014 2:11:58 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Obozo Care is a Trinity of Lies! Obozo Care is probably a serious Black Swan event.)
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They live wild in my neighborhood in CT. I’m way out in the woods but if you like your dog, you don’t let him roam. Lost cat posters are a thing of the past; cars don’t get lost, they get eaten.

I’ve crossed paths with them several times and they give you a good once over. I never hike unarmed and don’t walk the dogs unarmed either. They’re big and not the least bit afraid of you.


5 posted on 03/09/2014 2:12:32 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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I`ve seen Coydogs around the Cuyahoga Valley Towpath trail. They tend to look kinda like a Coyote with a long snout but have floppier ears and their fur`s coloration and appearance is more like a dogs. Sure look like they could give you a hard time if they want to, that's why I always carry my Bersa when I hike now.

Besides, the two legged animals around here can be rough looking too.

6 posted on 03/09/2014 2:13:58 PM PDT by nomad
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the story of how it came to be is an extraordinary tale of how quickly adaptation and evolution can occur, especially when humans interfere.

Evolution? This is a crossbreed.

7 posted on 03/09/2014 2:14:50 PM PDT by eartrumpet
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At least one human death by these hybrids. A young Canadian singer was killed by them while hiking. DNA tests confirmed they were wolf-coyote hybrids. I have them here on my farm in Loudoun County Virginia. I’ve found the remains of adult deer that were pulled down by them. They hunt in packs like wolves. Animal Control told me to be aware of the packs. I never go outside without a firearm.


9 posted on 03/09/2014 2:17:13 PM PDT by W.Lee (After the first one, the rest are free.)
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the dogs here in WNY are NOTHING like the scrawny mutt's out west... a pack of them is NOT to be taken lightly

and let me tell you, when you are in the woods at dusk/dark and hear them go off, it WILL send a chill up your spine!!!

Pistol, NEVER leave home without it.

10 posted on 03/09/2014 2:18:03 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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The DNR won’t admit they brought them here “to control deer”.


15 posted on 03/09/2014 2:34:47 PM PDT by Salamander (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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20 posted on 03/09/2014 2:46:51 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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We used to have animals on our Texas Gulf Coast property called Red Wolves. They were probably wolf/coyote crosses and said to be endangered. Now what we have appears to be Coyotes. We have Coyotes in the heart of Houston too. I have seen them myself.


23 posted on 03/09/2014 2:57:30 PM PDT by Ditter
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"Many eastern coyotes (Canis latrans "var.") are coywolves, which despite having a majority of coyote (Canis latrans) ancestry, also descend from either the gray wolf (Canis lupus) or the red wolf (Canis lupus rufus, formerly Canis rufus). They come from a constantly evolving gene pool, and are viewed by some scientists as an emerging coywolf species.

The genetic composition and classification of the eastern coyote is debated among scientists.

A study showed that of 100 coyotes collected in Maine, 22 had half or more gray wolf ancestry, and one was 89 percent gray wolf.[6] A theory has been proposed that the large eastern "coyotes" in Canada are actually hybrids of the smaller western coyotes and gray wolves that mated decades ago as the coyotes moved toward New England from their earlier western ranges."

Source: Wikipedia

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We have a den about 1/8 of a mile from our house. These animals come in packs through our property, and I estimate that one was as much as 60 pounds. They attacked and almost killed a small dog next door.

28 posted on 03/09/2014 3:07:05 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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Looks worthwhile, thanks. I’d have taken it for a dog, at first glance at least. Looks well fed.


33 posted on 03/09/2014 3:19:41 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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That was very interesting - thanks for posting!

We have coyotes in my neighborhood - I’m pretty sure they are the reason my dog starts barking and growling like crazy at night.


63 posted on 03/09/2014 3:53:22 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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It’s not unusual for coyotes and domestic dogs to breed so what’s the big deal.

Just one dog screwing another dog and making puppies.


114 posted on 03/09/2014 6:31:54 PM PDT by dalereed
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