Posted on 03/09/2014 7:29:15 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
What are your thoughts on the final episode? I found the manhunt through Carcosa to be over the top INTENSE!!! I couldn't even sit through it. I had to stand and pace a bit with a lot of fidgeting.
Also of great interest was Rust Kohle's new attitude when he had what could be called a near death experience and sensed the presence of his daughter.
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1723798/true-detective-finale.jhtml
http://tv.yahoo.com/news/true-detective-season-finale-darkness-yeah-uh-030200549.html
http://www.sfgate.com/technology/heavy/article/True-Detective-Finale-Causes-HBO-Go-Crash-5302413.php
“Once there was only dark but if you ask me, the light’s winning.”
(internet consensus)
“How many episodes are there in total?”
8 I think.
I am watching it now and hope this is not the end.
Too many unanswered questions.
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So here we are with what was a very good show for 7 episodes.
7 episodes that talked of a broad murder conspiracy involving an esteemed patriarch, a sheriff, various rich men, a major pastor. A conspiracy so big that it, by all sorts of hints given in the show, even got to Marty Hart’s daughter. And it was plausible.
But all we’re left with in episode 8 is a retarded fat hillbilly who everybody knew was in on at the end of the last episode.
Not only that but tons and tons of unanswered questions (like who were the masked men from the videotape? what is all this yellow king stuff? why were two victims displayed for the world to see but the rest were hidden away)
How can people be satisfied with an ending like that?
Sheesh, no wonder we’re living in the age of obama.
Thanks! I don’t know why they don’t have music credits on some of these TV shows that have such great music.
Less than advertised.
Marty: "What's that?"
Rust: "Light vs. dark."
Marty: (looking up at the night sky) "Well, I know we ain't in Alaska, but...it appears to me that the dark has a lot more territory."
Rust: "Yeah. You're right about that. Hey, listen, hey."
Marty: "Yeah. What?"
Rust: "Why don't you point me in the direction of that car, man. I've spent enough of my f---in' life in hospitals."
Marty: "Jesus. You know what? I'd protest, but it occurs to me that you're unkillable. You want to go back and get your clothes or anything?"
Rust: "No. Anything I left back there I don't need. You know...you're looking at it wrong...that sky thing."
Marty: "How's that?"
Rust: "Well once there was only dark. If you ask me, the light's winning."
>>what is all this yellow king stuff?<<
The elder Childress - Errol’s father, and the leader of the cult. “Him that eats time” as the black caretaker said last week. His cult carries on despite him being dead. “Time is a flat circle” - it’ll just keep going around and around, since the cult is still active and the corruption goes far and wide in high circles of office/influence.
>>why were two victims displayed for the world to see but the rest were hidden away<<
Because Erroll is crazy. He ‘broke bad’ from the cult by killing and displaying Dora Lange’s body, which launched the initial investigation. The Tuttle’s tried their best to put the toothpaste back in the tube, but it was too late. Billy Lee, I’m guess, kept Erroll on a short leash after that point. Once Billy Lee died, Erroll was left to his own devices again and that’s what lead to the latest killing being out in the open again.
Thanks!
The ending was very disappointing. The newscaster on the television in the hospital room said that the murders did not implicate the governor (or his family), which we know is not true. Cover up!
I thought that Marty had told the detective that he gave the evidence to that he must see that the case must go to where the evidence was pointing.
Marty and Rust would never let a cover up happen,so the last line by Rust (Rust: “Well once there was only dark. If you ask me, the light’s winning.” ) is something he/they would never believe.
Well, THAT explains it!
Thanks
I knew someone on FR would come through....
Let me correct that - the Yellow King was Sam Tuttle - Errol’s grandfather, not Ted Childress, Errol’s father.
I’m not that disappointed with the ending. I think the meat of the show was the main characters, and the dynamic between them. How they evolved and changed over time. The crime just being a backdrop. I think the audience built it up as a crime-solver show, not simply as a show about two detectives.
I thought it could have been and should have been both.
As far as their relationship--Throughout the show I got the feeling Cohle and Hart were so opposite that they could never be friends as partners nor of course outside of their partnership. But the case is what bound them and held their reluctant relationship together. and that despite not liking each other personally they had a mutual respect for each other's abilities as detectives that grew as they solved the case.
Instead the end made it feel like it was just an odd couple buddy picture with hart sentimentally patting a crying cohle on the shoulder (really cohle crying?) halfway expecting him to say tearfully "I love you man" and "there there little fella". Way too sentimental an ending IMO for what otherwise was a brilliantly dark and creepy, think-outside-the-box series.
The guy had been a tightly-wound spring for nearly two decades, insitgated by the death of his daughter. Going through a near-death experience, wherein he felt her presence, would change anyone’s perspective of things. I thought he was entitled to a break-down.
Well the rest of the cult (are they the rest of the cult we're never really told that, we can only guess) seems to have died (probably-sam tuttle, the ledouxs, Sheriff ted childress, rev eddie tuttle and or moved on like the senator (and are they really the rest of it? ) so I dont think its still active and all that's left is a retarded big fat hillbilly who likes killing.
BUT I would have been okay with that had there been just a little something, almost anything, explaining that that is what happened or at least reminding us that it is the case. Maybe a photograph of these people after a deer hunt or something like that with cohle and hart figuring out who they were. Something, anything, not a just dead air and a "you figure it out"
the two victims were displayed for the world to see Because Erroll is crazy. He ‘broke bad’ from the cult by killing and displaying Dora Lange’s body, which launched the initial investigation. The Tuttle’s tried their best to put the toothpaste back in the tube, but it was too late. Billy Lee, I’m guessing, kept Erroll on a short leash after that point. Once Billy Lee died, Erroll was left to his own devices again and that’s what lead to the latest killing being out in the open again.
I like that explanation a lot and its very similar to what I theorized as to what might have happened. But again. Could they have just put something in at the end, again, anything, to confirm and remind us, even hint at that? It would have made it so much more satisfying IMO.
For what it’s worth.
I think I nailed the final episode:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3130088/posts?page=85#85
From my perspective, the series is ALL ABOUT COHLE and more importantly, what Cohle believes. The murders/abuse/drugs/violence/degradation/conspiracy etc, are all contributing factors that have formed his belief system. A system of belief that has it’s roots in the death of his child. I’m not suggesting that Cohle will be going on the road with the Preacher, but if he is forced to accept “Satan” as a real force, then he must also accept God.
IMHO, this is what the final episode will be about.
A better ending would have been having cohle die on the floor of the sacrificial chamber, but perhaps relating something to marty about seeing his daughter.
that would have been hopeful, and have the same character transformation, but still would have been dark and original and consistent with the rest of the series. Instead we were left with all too typical maudlin sentimentality.
the show Breaking bad, while entirely different subject matter, is a show that TD is often compared with. And BB had a very satisfying ending, that was much much better by comparison.
In the hospital, when Harrelson visits Kohle, Kohle points out that they didn’t get them all, which alludes to more storyline, perhaps.
The connection to the Senator is still up in the air too.
In all, a good, terrifying ending.
For what it’s worth.
I think I nailed the final episode:
granted the method of how it came about was different. But I think you deserve full credit for predicting his transformation.
I thought the transformation was one of the few bright spots in an otherwise poor ending (although it was handled clumsily see next post.)
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