Skip to comments.U.S. Army Gets Big-Ass Old-School Gun (Recoilless Rifle)
Posted on 03/10/2014 6:25:18 AM PDT by C19fan
According to Swedish defense contractor Saab, the U.S. Army is planning to issue recoilless rifles broadly to regular units for the first time in more than 30 years. The decision reflects the services combat experience in Afghanistan.
The ground combat branch had previously made a small purchase of recoilless rifles in 2012, but just for units in Afghanistan. All light infantry units may now receive them.
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We’re talking “Bazooka” here, and not what I think of mounted on a JEEP, right?
I wonder how many Davy Crocketts we have in stock.
The Carl Gustav has been in the inventory for decades being used primarily by the Ranger Regiment, but now being fielded across the force. It’s relatively lightweight compared to other legacy recoiless rifles (90mm), highly effective, simple to operate and re-usable. It comes with a variety of munition types.
What was old is new.
Under current conditions it might fare better than the old M18...which was a great way to give away your position when it was used in WWII.
U.S. Marines used them effectively in Hue, Vietnam.
That looks bigger than 60mm. Korea, I take it?
Probably none. The units that used them were deactivated in 1968. To me at least, it doesn’t make sense that we’d still be maintaining a weapons system when we haven’t had units that knew how use them for 40+ years.
I guess the thing didn't carry extra rounds for reloading.
Could have been one of these.
106mm - Vietnam
Correction - that’s a 90mm.
This a shoulder-fired type of weapon.
The US Army had both 106’s and 90’s in recoilless rifle rounds. The 106 was often jeep-mounted.
It was probably this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M50_Ontos
My memory of both the picture and description, notwithstanding.
“Pale ink is better than the best memory”
It’s the same old problem since the start of war. When the bullets aren’t flying, Joe wants to wear gym shorts and carry a pocket knife. When the bullets start flying, Joe wants ten feet of steel around him and a nuke. And it’s the same for governments. When the bullets aren’t flying, the government only wants to pay enough money for gym shorts and pocket knives. When the enemy starts firing into the government buildings, then the government wants 500 Divisions with tanks and jets and submarines.
None. They are all gone and have been disassembled.
Had one mounted on an M-113 in Vietnam. We had another napalm launching track called Zippo.
They look very similar, but a bazooka fired a rocket. A recoiless rifle is an artillery piece that vents part of the gasses from the propellant charge out of the back of the breach. If you balance the forward thrust from those gasses with the rearward thrust from the muzzle, you can very nearly zero out the recoil, hence the "recoiless" rifle. Because the breach and tube do not have to be strong enough to contain all of the pressure of the propellant charge, they can be much thinner and lighter than a conventional artillery piece of the size.
I’d like to have one of those APCs in my yard to prepare for the coming assaults by the government.
Mixed feelings. Ideal for static defensive positions, but for grunts having to hump 90MikeMike rounds up and down dry mountains? Not so good.....
I’ll take one of those from Allis-Chalmers with a 60” mower deck on it. LOL
It’s a 90 mm RR.
I’ve heard one of the big issues with that these days was the fact they were running out of 90mm rounds for those.
M-67 90MM Recoilless rifle Max effective range 400 meters max range 2300 meters weight 37 lbs. Fires a HEAT and canister round We had them in Viuetnam and in My National Guard 19-77 MP unit
Next up, a revival of the ONTOS, my favorite fighting vehicle of all time!?! (well there's the M-42, too)
Just for clarification for this AF puke, the recoilless rifles referred to in article are portable, man-held weapons. They are not the type that was mounted on a jeep, is that correct?
This is a 3.5 in. Rocket Launcher (commomly called “bazooka”), not a 75 or 105 mm recoilless rifle. The 75mm was usually installed on a pedestal on a 1/4 ton vehicle (commonly called “Jeep”), mounted to the floor bhind the driver. Both were used a lot in Korea.
By “ass” do they mean like a donkey - stubborn, hardy, sure footed - or is it that vulgarity is creeping into our language at such a rate that it’s now safe for headlines?
M67 Recoilless Rifle
My day was 1956-1962 in which we were trained with the 3.5 inch RL tube. It was not an issued infantry weapon at that time, and we didn't spend much time with it. It made a heckuva bang and back-blast, giving the weapon's position away.
I was in two different airborne units in the 70’s. Weapons platoon had 90’s or 105’s. We got to fire the 90mm with practice rounds once or twice as I recall, but never the real munitions.
I fired one of those bad boys once. My head was ringing for an hour. LOL