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Posted on 03/10/2014 7:56:27 AM PDT by LouAvul

I'd like to apologize for my online behavior and inflammatory posts. When discussing the situation re illegal immigration I've used terms like "wetback."

When discussing things like the "knockout game", the white house, etc, I've used terms like "ghetto monkey."

It's shameful and sinful. It's a testimony to Jim Robinson's patience that I haven't been banned. It won't happen again.

Again, I'm sorry for that.


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1 posted on 03/10/2014 7:56:27 AM PDT by LouAvul
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To: LouAvul

God forgives almost everything except blasphemy against the Holy Spirit according to what I understand from scripture. Not having been directly offended by your posts, I am nevertheless astounded that much of anyone these days would have a repentant attitude about anything. I certainly don’t see THAT very much. Commendable. Forgiven from this corner.


2 posted on 03/10/2014 7:58:15 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: LouAvul

Thank you. Emotions run high on some of the issues we discuss. Thanks for your efforts to keep things civil.


3 posted on 03/10/2014 7:58:19 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (as)
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To: LouAvul

It is big of you to acknowledge that the use of terms like that is inappropriate and wrong. As Ted Nugent has learned, you shouldn’t refer to someone as a subhuman mongrel either.


4 posted on 03/10/2014 7:59:18 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: LouAvul

At least you didn’t say anything disrespectful about Putin. His disciple swoop down to defend him and his cult. That’s really not politically correct.


5 posted on 03/10/2014 7:59:48 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Free Ukraine. Free Venezuela. Free Syria. Free Iran. Free the USA.)
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To: LouAvul

It’s easy to get your anger and frustration filter into a post. I should have been banned during the last election.

We’re seeing a systematic dismantling of our country. We have a man in the WH who doesn’t understand the first thing about free markets. He doesn’t understand the simple premise that his policies are hurting the poor and middle class more than anyone.

Why do we have $3 plus gasoline in this country? How can a single person let alone a single parent aford that?

I could go on and on but suffice to say that I can understand your frustration.

I’m not implying anything, but I have a rule never to post when I’ve had anything to drink.


6 posted on 03/10/2014 8:01:31 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: LouAvul
I know you are being nice but there is a reason that illegal Mexicans are called “wetbacks” in Texas. They swim the Rio Grande to get to Texas. If they don't like that name, they can walk across the NM AZ or CA border to illegally enter the US.
7 posted on 03/10/2014 8:02:19 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: LouAvul

I’ve felt the same way and have had similar regrets. These are frustrating times.


8 posted on 03/10/2014 8:03:48 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: LouAvul

Hey, we all get frustrated and angry and lose our cool from time to time. It’s understandable. Every day it seems we are inundated with negative stories about the current administration attacking every aspect of our nation and way of life. Some days the news just makes one want to rage.

It’s all good.


9 posted on 03/10/2014 8:05:23 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Audentis Fortuna Iuvat)
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To: LouAvul

sinful?

look the deal is to express yourself forcefully without giving the enemy anything legitimate to hang its hat on to criticize you for.

most of us here are pretty passionate about truth and honesty and what we are dealing with is a pack of liars, murderers and thieves, so it is not surprising that things can get intense.

so, i haven’t noticed your posts, but I do not believe in calling anything a monkey, an ape (although they did it to President Bush and they are not fit to kiss Bush’ foot) because it makes FR look mean and stupid.

Anyway, it is a challenge to express oneself, and the mods have been on me occasionally for cuss words, although I maintain cuss words are the only way sometimes.


10 posted on 03/10/2014 8:08:34 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: LouAvul

A few rules that I have that really help: Even in real life, I rarely, if ever, say something in anger that I don’t mean. It’s not like I’m superior or anything. I just don’t seem to have that particular vice. The downside is that if I do say something really negative, I MEAN IT.

But the more important rule is that I don’t use euphemisms like “scumbag”. I usually don’t call democrats “dumbocrats”, etc. because only the choir gets it and the other side sees it as sophomoric. If I think a guy is a scoundrel, that is what I will call him. I don’t even know what a scumbag looks like.

And regarding the Knockout game, I will call them feral youth’s because that is not name-calling. It is simply calling them what they are. Literally.

And sometimes calling them what they are is the most effective way to deal with it. People can call you out for calling them names, but when you use strong negative words for calling someone what they actually are, if they protest, you present your case. Like when you call a person a bastard, it begs the question: Are they?


11 posted on 03/10/2014 8:08:58 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: LouAvul

I’ve changed my own direction over the years.

These days you’re more likely to find me seeking a means of reaching out to groups of Americans who tend to lean democrat. I simply show respect, explain why I’m a conservative, and how conservatism will be good for them.

I’ve made a lot of unlikely friends that way and that just gives me a chance to promote conservatism even more.


12 posted on 03/10/2014 8:14:15 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Ditter

Indeed. I see know problem with the term.


13 posted on 03/10/2014 8:15:25 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: LouAvul

That be mighty white of you FRiend . .


14 posted on 03/10/2014 8:17:22 AM PDT by ▀udda▀udd
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To: elhombrelibre

“...didn’t say anything disrespectful about Putin. His disciple swoop down to defend him...”

You noticed too.


15 posted on 03/10/2014 8:18:01 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 ( ...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: LouAvul

I would much rather have some one speak their mind, than hear some one is covering their speech with Political Correctness.

That’s not to say we cannot strive to be civil, but “wetbacks” is an accurate description of many illegals, sometime long ago, even the news casters used the term.


16 posted on 03/10/2014 8:18:45 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Good on you. Takes a real man and courage to do what you just did.

Wish we had more of that here on FR (self inc.)

17 posted on 03/10/2014 8:19:22 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: LouAvul

It’ interesting to note which words some people find objectionable by some people but acceptable when uttered by others.

I lived on the border for years and heard many illegal aliens refer to themselves as “mojados”, wet ones; or “mojaditos”, little wet ones. That seems not too far from the “objectionable” word.

I will not repeat terms I have heard African Americans refer to themselves as. Nor homosexuals.

It’s quite alright if you want to refer to me as a redneck, cracker, honkey though.


18 posted on 03/10/2014 8:19:44 AM PDT by ReconViper 1
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To: LouAvul
At least you didn't say ASH ALERT! or mention Eschioir. That lil turd gave me heartburn!
19 posted on 03/10/2014 8:19:47 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: usconservative; LouAvul

oops, meant the above for LouAvul, not Mene..... I responded to wrong post.


20 posted on 03/10/2014 8:22:16 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: LouAvul

I use wet///back, go///ok, and others. Many have been used towards me. I really don’t give a shlt. Sticks and stones you know. My time is ending. Ignore me. Put up with me. Or do away with me. I really do not care


21 posted on 03/10/2014 8:24:07 AM PDT by Rannug ("all enemies, foreign and domestic")
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To: LouAvul

Don’t let guilt over rule logic it’s how one becomes a progressive liberal remember they are only words nothing else it’s only actions that hurt.


22 posted on 03/10/2014 8:24:53 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Ditter
I know you are being nice but there is a reason that illegal Mexicans are called “wetbacks” in Texas. They swim the Rio Grande to get to Texas. If they don't like that name, they can walk across the NM AZ or CA border to illegally enter the US.

Most folks probably don't realize the Rio Grande starts in Colorado, runs down the middle of New Mexico, and then becomes the border between TX and Mexico.

I cross the Rio Grande twice a day commuting to/from work, right here in the Albuquirky metro area.

23 posted on 03/10/2014 8:25:17 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: IYAS9YAS
Yes I know where the Rio Grande starts I have been there. I have also driven along the NM/Mexico border that is nothing but a rusty falling down barbed wire fence. Or at least that is what it was a few years ago.
24 posted on 03/10/2014 8:28:59 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: LouAvul

1954 called and they want their Operation Wetback back.

http://nlp.cs.nyu.edu/meyers/controversial-wikipedia-corpus/english-html/main/main_0568.html


25 posted on 03/10/2014 8:34:11 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: ├čudda├čudd
That be mighty white of you FRiend . .

LOL

26 posted on 03/10/2014 8:35:45 AM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: LouAvul
We should all probably build a list of names that we shouldn't call the president too, such as

(I'm sure we could come up with some other names we shouldn't call him for the list too if we just think about it for a while.)

27 posted on 03/10/2014 8:36:21 AM PDT by Heart-Rest ("Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap." Gal 6:7)
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To: Ditter; LouAvul

I appreciate the sentiments, too but agree with Ditter. I’m of Hispanic ancestry and I say “mojado”, like most of the native Texans of my ancestry do. It isn’t even considered an insult here-wet is wet-just a statement of fact in Spanish or English...


28 posted on 03/10/2014 8:36:40 AM PDT by Texan5 (" You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: LouAvul

Thank you for your post.


29 posted on 03/10/2014 8:39:12 AM PDT by Obadiah (I Like Ted.)
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To: cripplecreek
These days you’re more likely to find me seeking a means of reaching out to groups of Americans who tend to lean democrat. I simply show respect, explain why I’m a conservative, and how conservatism will be good for them. I’ve made a lot of unlikely friends that way and that just gives me a chance to promote conservatism even more.

good for you! i have been trying to do the same too... for me, it's trying to live out the second greatest commandment as Jesus described to Nicodemus in Matthew 22:39--love your neighbor as yourself...

it is not easy...

30 posted on 03/10/2014 8:39:26 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: LouAvul

Sometimes outrage and anger makes us post or blurt before we think.

I made a rule for myself a long while back to write what I think on paper and sit it in front of me, wait awhile and then look at it to see if I really want to say that.

It works, then after a while you can use the 5 minute, cool off rule with no paper.


31 posted on 03/10/2014 8:40:02 AM PDT by dforest
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To: cripplecreek

Funny, I’ve been doing the same thing.
Showing Democrat-leaning voters that conservatives are normal people who care about America can be powerful.
The uber-left are hopeless but so far, they are a minority.


32 posted on 03/10/2014 8:41:12 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: cripplecreek

I agree 100%.

I have never been a real liberal, but it was there somewhat in the past. My family is almost all democrats. I find both parties, have in part sold out to a smaller section of their membership, at the “top”.

There is a big swatch of people who are somewhere in the middle. In fact, a majority I would say.

Continue reaching out to those people.

There is a segment you will never connect with, but do not lose sight of the fact there is a huge segment of America right now which is not particularly happy with either party.

Reach out to them.

Dems are moving ever to the left. Communism, government, and more control.

Our side however has our own vulnerabilities, and they have become quite large. Mainly we need to support American jobs.

Bigtime.

Neither party is 100% right. Just keep supporting what is.


33 posted on 03/10/2014 8:42:26 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ( http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: ├čudda├čudd

now THAT is an expression I grew up hearing that I’ve had to purge from my vocabulary. It was never meant in a racial way either, “white” being used as in “the guys in the white hats”, but no one knows or would ever believe that today.

Of course I’m a racist for disagreeing with Obama’s policies anyhow.

Still, we do better when we can disagree without resorting to the gutter terminology, racism, or euphemisms for the same.


34 posted on 03/10/2014 8:51:20 AM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: cripplecreek

I’m spending too much time at FR. Your post was at the bottom of the screen and your screen name was cut off. While reading your post, I thought, this has to be from Cripplecreek. Sure enough, it was. I commend you for reaching out.


35 posted on 03/10/2014 8:58:23 AM PDT by cyclotic (Hey BSA-I'm gone. Walk Worthy-traillifeusa.com)
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To: Rannug

Personally, I find the term gringo to be offensive, but nobody cares.


36 posted on 03/10/2014 9:00:04 AM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: LouAvul

Yeah, ghetto monkey is not a 15 yard penalty. More like a 5 yarder.

It’s funny I’m not a big PC guy. But I was recently in FL and hung out with my brother and some of the good ole boys. They were dropping the n word left and right. I realized that I Never have been around people who used that a lot. Ever. Even when I was a kid back in the 60’s.

And I was around Boston in the 70’s, and I did not hear it a lot.

It simply sounded harsh and hateful to my ears.

I guess I should have spoken up...but I was in Rome....etc.

Good on you for asking forgiveness. I know I could join you in the confessional about stuff I’ve written here, intentionally trying to aggravate or piss people off.

I have a feeling the crap is on it’s way to the fan. We will need to hang together. It’s best we all examine our tone, and I will tone it down too.


37 posted on 03/10/2014 9:01:54 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: LouAvul

Well done.


38 posted on 03/10/2014 9:04:24 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (The less a man knows, the more certain he is that he knows it all.)
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To: LouAvul

I’ve learned over the years that no matter what you do you’ll always offend someone or some group etc. PC has gotten way out of hand, is way overblown and changing words or using different words as to “not offend” is pathetic.

My stand is: Never apologize, just clarify if the offended didn’t understand the first time.


39 posted on 03/10/2014 9:05:58 AM PDT by maddog55 (I'd be Pro-Choice if we could abort liberals.)
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To: bigbob

O K


40 posted on 03/10/2014 9:07:02 AM PDT by ▀udda▀udd
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To: LouAvul
Jim didn't tell ya about the double-secret probation?

You didn't say Vacation-Monkey, so I think you're good. hehe

41 posted on 03/10/2014 9:19:51 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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I post stuff all over at liebral news sites mosly and just leave it there .. I don’t go back and bicker over details as most don’t care to wade thru details anyway... and trying to re-educate folks when ya aren’t looking ‘em in the eyes is a waste of time.

Words are just that, words.

They can slay like a sword or just lay there and get trampled on. What difference does it make in the end?

I threw my rearview internet mirror away a long time ago.


42 posted on 03/10/2014 9:21:06 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: LouAvul

Apologies not accepted.

none needed, imho.


43 posted on 03/10/2014 9:22:20 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: Texan5
Thank you Texan5. I too am a 5th generation Texan (just guessing what the 5 means). We are both real Texans even tho my ancestors came from England and yours came from Mexico.
44 posted on 03/10/2014 9:30:23 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: cyclotic

The GOPe has given compromise and reaching out a bad name.

I think CL Lewis is correct. Rather than fighting against black history month, conservatives should seize our rightful place in it and use it to educate about who the true civil rights champions have been through history.


45 posted on 03/10/2014 9:36:01 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

I have surprised a few liberals with my attitude and generosity over the years but they still listen to the media and think we want to “starve grandma” and continue our “war on women”. Most are stuck in their group think.


46 posted on 03/10/2014 10:07:47 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter

The 5 refers to immediate family members-actually, my family has been in S Texas since the mid-late 1700s-mostly Basque ancestry.


47 posted on 03/10/2014 10:16:06 AM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"....)
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To: Texan5
My family is a newcomer compared to yours. Mine has only been in Texas since 1828. That is according to family legend and the family Bible.
48 posted on 03/10/2014 10:27:25 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: cripplecreek

A few months ago, I was listening g to the Tom Joiner Morning Show on the radio. One of his co-hosts was discussing a poll that asked black respondents if the knew any white people ?

The question was sad. It wasn’t about interacting, being friends with or anything like that, just do you know any whites.

I don’t remember the specifics but the response was a staggering majority of “no”. That was deeply saddening to me that anyone in America can live that sheltered of an existence.


49 posted on 03/10/2014 10:49:17 AM PDT by cyclotic (Hey BSA-I'm gone. Walk Worthy-traillifeusa.com)
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To: Ditter

Family records are all we have, and a couple of ships’ passenger manifests from Spain-one of my relatives tracked our first Basque immigrants to the Pyrenees, but the ones who supposedly came from Leon are lost in shadow before they arrived in Vera Cruz.


50 posted on 03/10/2014 10:53:53 AM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"....)
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