Skip to comments.Richard Branson sides with Apple CEO against Climate Change Deniers
Posted on 03/10/2014 8:16:05 AM PDT by dangerdoc
Inspired by Apple CEO Tim Cook, Virgin founder Richard Branson has taken to his blog to say that businesses should begin standing up against climate change deniers. "While Tim told sustainability skeptics to 'get out of our stock,'" Branson writes, "I would urge climate change deniers to get out of our way." Cook's statements came at a recent shareholders meeting, where he soundly shot down a proposal rooted in climate change denial that would have had Apple putting its bottom line above its interests in sustainability. Cook said that those who would prefer Apple do everything purely for profit simply shouldn't invest.
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Before Copernicus, 97 percent of "learned scholars" believed that the Earth revolved around the Sun. I guess that was compelling then too.
Branson has taken to his blog to say that businesses.
Simple enough. These spoiled billionaires are working against America and Americans, while profiting immensely from them.
Therefore, when conservatives control congress and the White House, these billionaires need to be put in their place.
Most of them are not billionaires because they have billions of dollars, but because they have the equivalent in stock. If their stock drops, they stop being billionaires.
And they stop being pestiferous to America and Americans.
Right now, their stock is sky high in many cases solely because it is propped up by the US government. Take away those props, and overnight, these billionaires are selling pencils on street corners.
Time for the joy ride of these scoundrels to end.
Before Copernicus, 97 percent of "learned scholars" believed that the Sun revolved around the Earth. I guess that was compelling then too.
See how easy it is to screw this up?
Right. A company that builds most of its products in China professing it cares more about the environment than making a profit.
So when Apple decided that it didn’t want to comply with EPA rules and moved their manufacturing to China, they were only concerned with what? Or when they thumbed their noses at minimum wage laws and hired Chinese workers at a fraction of the cost of an American worker they were just doing what? And how ‘bout when they shielded their billions in foreign banks to avoid taxes in the USA? All this at the same time that they were sending massive amounts of money to politicians who devised the very rules that they have so assiduously avoided. We have several vulgarities for people like that.
How in the world would you accomplish that? How do we put people like Sir Richard “in their place”?
No, I won’t get out of your way, Dick. You aren’t my boss, so F off, son.
Branson is old.
Does it help with their taxes? Payoffs?
These people are not stupid. Follow the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
What percent of Soviets believed in Communism? Or at least those who went on record?
There has been a blacklist of thought. Challenges from within the scientific community where silenced. This was in the leaked memos.
Richard and Tim have come out as ACC Nazis....who knew?
they’re all afraid of Obama and the nsa. they’re not stupid people.
Stalinists lie. ALWAYS
these dopes would insist that BELIEF in Climate Change is..the mark of the beast..
either wear it or be de personed
I don’t have any use for this company’s stock or products.
Apple can take its business and its Glowbull Warming and shove it.
And Rush can get turned off when he talks about these idiots too.
ya think these guys are doing this for Obama ?
If Climate Change Hoax Deniers don't want my money, I'll be more than happy to not give it to them.
If they can come up with an efficient, less stinky, and cost effective means of energy use and production, fine. Just don’t assume it will make a hoots worth of difference to the climate, or that any other energy using nation will cooperate.
I suspect Cook is catching LOTS of flack internally and Branson is trying to help.
CEO’s who are/were NOT liked internally because of their non-work related opinions:
Craig Barrett - Intel
Larry Ellison - Oracle
Scott McNealy - Sun Microsystem
Philippe Kahn - Borland Software
Carly Fiorina - HP
John Scully - Apple
All these yahoo’s except Ellison have had their heads handed to them for NOT doing their job.
Cook is going to get it in within 3 years.
Cook has none of his hard-earned money “at risk”. Branson does. That gives him the right to be as foolish as he wants. But, he also heads a publicly traded company, and both should remember that if Jobs had not come back to Apple, it would still be in the crapper.
When his product pipeline dries out, what will that hireling do?
Oh, the 97% figure again. Just so we're all on the same page, that 97% figure was determined by a pollster who asked 10,000 scientists the question, got 3,000 responses, then included only 77 respondents in the population. The 75 out of 77 who agreed became the 97%.
So where did that famous consensus claim that 98% of all scientists believe in global warming come from? It originated from an endlessly reported 2009 American Geophysical Union (AGU) survey consisting of an intentionally brief two-minute, two question online survey sent to 10,257 earth scientists by two researchers at the University of Illinois. Of the about 3.000 who responded, 82% answered yes to the second question, which like the first, most people I know would also have agreed with.
Then of those, only a small subset, just 77 who had been successful in getting more than half of their papers recently accepted by peer-reviewed climate science journals, were considered in their survey statistic. That 98% all scientists referred to a laughably puny number of 75 of those 77 who answered yes.
“What percent of Soviets believed in Communism? Or at least those who went on record? There has been a blacklist of thought. Challenges from within the scientific community where silenced. This was in the leaked memos.”
“What percent of Soviets believed in Communism?”
I would hope everyone does, regardless of where you are. It exists.
Ideologically believed (and supported) it?
And there are hard left Communists in America who insist that REAL Communism has never been implemented.
And those 97% would be right, the earth DOES revolve around the sun. ;)
I bet if Branson’s bottom line got seriously hurt, he would change his stance, but the problem is how to do that in the current environment and with too many governments in the hands of Socialists and Gaia worshipers.
LOL! I guess Virgin will shutting down ops by the end of the week.
Ah dang it! That’s what I get for posting before reading the rest of the thread!
Branson should take the lead and ground all his planes...for the environment. (snark)
Excellent summary about Apple. Apple users are for a large part a cult following.
We have a female in law, who in most issues is a conservative. She owns every Apple product and has the latest update on her I Phone, I Pad, and I Mac.
When you bring up your excellent points, her eyes glaze over and she acts like a brain washed liberal.
Rush Limbaugh apparently has the same problem when it comes to Apple computors.
Your excellent Apple summary, “So when Apple decided that it didnt want to comply with EPA rules and moved their manufacturing to China, they were only concerned with what? Or when they thumbed their noses at minimum wage laws and hired Chinese workers at a fraction of the cost of an American worker they were just doing what? And how bout when they shielded their billions in foreign banks to avoid taxes in the USA? All this at the same time that they were sending massive amounts of money to politicians who devised the very rules that they have so assiduously avoided. We have several vulgarities for people like that.”
The billionaires club is disappointed that the Global Warming/Climate Change scam has fallen through (thanks to mother nature not cooperating). They spent decades (since the 70s) whipping up the state of fear in soccer moms that we were all going to die if we did not hand over the industrial base to them based on pseudo-science (which they have funded) and corporate media (which they own).
This green push to hijack the industrial base was necessary for one reason: they needed an unsolvable world-wide problem to create a global tax base to fund a global government. These are the same guys that obsess over zero population growth and promote abortion 24/7. In their minds, we are all useless breathers taking up their precious resources. By the way, the number of billionaires is at an all time high (a few thousand). I guess this is what happens when they get bored and sit around wanting to “shape” the world because they have to much resources and time on their hands.
Richard Branson owns an airline, he travels all over the world. His “carbon footprint” makes him Bigfoot.
The history of science is that the consensus is wrong. Think about it, if the consensus was never wrong there would be no progress. The stupidest comment in the world is to claim that science is a popularity poll and the debate is over (i.e. Al Gore, a C student in college). Many times in history, a devoted individual who was ostracized by the scientific community was proven right in the end. Unfortunately, it often happens after they are long gone.
Don’t forgot those flat earthers either.
Hey Dick and Tim!!
Do you think you know more on this subject than Dr. Roy Spencer?
Dr. Roy is pretty clear that your “97% agree” citation IS PURE B.S.!
I use Apple products because I find them better and easier to use than other company’s offerings. Now, just exactly how would I be supporting a company that did NOT push leftist dogma by using Microsoft, Dell, HP or just about any other? Are any of Apple’s competitors NOT manufacturing in China, or supporting gay marriage, or pushing for gun control?
Don’t buy or support their products / services.
Climate fanatics are entitled to their climate scientists, and foolish beliefs. I believe the guys who say humans could burn up the remaining fossil fuels on earth, and it wouldn’t raise the average temperature more than around 1.5 degrees. Big whoop, and for that modern civilization must crawl to a stop for lack of dependable and abundant energy. Let Branson suck on his rotten Chinese eggs.
Branson seems to lack understanding of what the word “data” means. Opinion is not data, beliefs are not data, and if a high percentage of people believe in Jinns and witchcraft, which is the case in Saudi Arabia among other places, is that supporting data too? If Mr. Branson is so concerned about the effects of a carbon cycle which keeps his skinny a** animated then he should do the right thing and remove himself from tat system. And for argument sake he may consider that opinion of mine as a data point too.
I have not seen any other major companies declare that if you do not agree with their “religion”, they would just as soon you not invest in their companies. It documents a level of commitment to their belief that in my opinion is disturbing.
This is right up their with governors declaring conservatives don’t have a place in their state.
You are dealing with a mindset that is consistent with jack boots and gas chambers.
I recently bought my first Windows laptop in years. I prefer the Mac OS but I actually like Win 8. I just use it for web stuff however and spend most of my time on the desktop side. So I’m not saying that other companies haven’t been doing the same, just that Apple gets a pass ‘cause they “care” so much. And they’re geniuses.
I used to defend Apple but only as a viable OS. And I found cult-like behavior on both sides, but much like the Dems vs Repubs, Apple is the darling right now so everyone fawns.
Limbaugh is another story. They won’t ever run ads on his show, but I guarantee, he gets plenty of perks. These old conservatives who can find nothing wrong with an entity as long as it has the letters INC after their name are relics.
They’ve told us for decades that “BIG BUSINESS” was sacrosanct even as more and more businesses were putting their money behind the Dems. Something wrong when you defend a company for years as they pour chemicals by the ton into the air and water only to find out that they gave all their cash to the Democrats and sent all their jobs overseas.
More recently, as in within the past 3 generations. .....4 out of 5 docs recommended non-filter Camels.
Consensus never equals good science.
But that's OK because Innovation.
The most telling part of his statement is that he flat out states that a poll of scholars is compelling data.
Why isn’t the climate data itself compelling, Mr. Branson?
“Microsofts position on climate change remains unchanged. Microsoft believes climate change is a serious issue that demands immediate, worldwide attention and we are acting accordingly. We are pursuing strategies and taking actions that are consistent with a strong commitment to reducing our own impact as well as the impact of our products. In addition, Microsoft has adopted a broad policy statement on climate change that expresses support for government action to create market-based mechanisms to address climate change.”
So where is the repudiation of deniers?
I only see Apple and Branson saying that if you are a denier, (modern version of heretic) they don’t want your business.
At least Branson didn’t mumble his way through the statement.
Not hard at all. Much of their corporate wealth comes directly from the US government, and the US economy, even though they pay the multinational game and say they can operate in the US but not pay US taxes.
So the way to punish them is to “level the playing field”.
No more taxpayer money to them for “the sweetness of their smiles”. If they want to sell things to the USG, let them compete fairly with others. With the provision that “you do business in the US, you pay US taxes off your US profits.”
Nothing unfair in that at all, but if it was proposed, such scoundrels would squeal like stuck pigs.
The next way to punish them is by either outlawing or regulating “gambling” investment markets in the US, or at least strip them of any government underwriting of their shady deals. If they gamble and lose $50 trillion, then it is up to them to make it up to their creditors. If they can’t, of course, then they are bankrupt.
The mistake the Democrats intentionally make is to suggest that their taxes should be raised to punish them. That has never worked and never can work, because they only pay bare minimum taxes right now.
So the spigot has to be turned off of the money flowing to them in the first place, especially if it is unfair market advantage money.
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